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MotK Mafioso Mafia! Over
Carthrat:
@Kefit: There were 4 clear lurkers come day 2. 3/4 were scum. I happened to pick the 1/4 that wasn't. Also, people lynched that person because I was really persuasive.
So. I have faith in my strategy, and if I occasionally get fucked by not quite being nuanced enough or unlucky now and then, I'm fine with that, perils of mafia, etc.
Kefit:
Yeah, I applauded your persuasiveness. Your posts were a great mix of good persuasion + good reasoning. I doubt I'll ever agree with lynching all lurkers (unless it becomes standard meta), but that was only one part of your reasoning through the game.
Kefit:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha oh god. Kilga's SUPER MAFIA MYSTERY BONUS CONTENT redeems every negative aspect of this thread.
Yes, the video was so good that this deserved its own post.
Kilgamayan:
--- Quote from: Kefit on April 29, 2010, 09:48:15 PM ---The scumhunting tactic that you employ has nothing to do with the way you choose to present your case.
The problem is that you have to make other people listen to you and do what you say or your scumhunting is meaningless. I automatically assume that, when someone presents a tightly focused case against an individual, that this person has looked at each player during pre-post analysis and is now presenting the case that they find most compelling. Even if you must focus on several people or cases, it helps to interject some wit or styling to make your post more readable. A giant glob of short sentences comprising a case, while perhaps containing sterling logic, is not something that anyone wants to read or be impressed by.
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The alternative is to put forth an entire paragraph - possibly more - covering every single point I wanted to address, and more words are less likely to convince people of your case, simply because they aren't going to want to read all that shit. Attention spans will invariably wander. Look at the length of that post again. If I had discussed every single point I wanted to discuss about Serela in detail, then you could remove absolutely everything else and it would still be longer than it is now.
If I have to choose between deluge of pretty words and deluge of evidence, I'm going to choose the latter 100% of the time.
Kefit:
I'm saying that it's possible to mix the two styles.
Mafia has some intriguing similarities to real world trials. While trial lawyers have been trained to think very logically, they must nonetheless couch their language in ways that have a meaningful affect upon their audience - the jury. The jury, while generally composed of intelligent and mostly rational human beings, is nonetheless a group of individuals placed in the uncomfortable position of deciding the fate of another person on the basis of incomplete information. They are vulnerable to persuasive techniques. Even judges in bench trials are vulnerable to subtle persuasive techniques and can have their mood towards a case altered by a sufficiently well presented argument.
One's position vis-a-vis other townies in a game of mafia is much the same. All of the evidence in the world isn't going to mean anything if the other townies don't care about it. While one's ideal may be that all of us ignore rhetoric, that is not the reality.
ps I just used "vis-a-vis" in an internet post without even thinking about it. What the fuck has law school done to me ;_;