Anyway, then Chaore unvotes Alice, which certainly makes sense because it was a really stupid wagon. But then, he doesn't stick a vote on anyone. It's still at the point where you hardly need a reason at all to vote someone; why not throw a vote at Carth or Furi for jumping on such a stupid wagon? Carth even said it's stupid, and votes onto it regardless. Isn't that suspicious enough to warrant a vote when it's still D1 joke voting time anyway?
I think Rou put this best himself when he had the same exact case. It's not exactly scummy to avoid sending a vote anywhere, just TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PLAY. Unless you're suggesting both Carth and Furi are also scum who I'm trying to avoid starting a wagon on, you've got nothing. Even then, you're suggesting two people as scum so surely that you're convicting someone else of being scum- without knowing if they're scum or not.
If they're town, It really is odd I avoided an easy wagon on those two given they're in quite a predicament there! I imagine scum would be all over a wagon based on alice's self vote.
TLDR; Same defense I used against Rou still applies because it's the SAME THING HE ASKED. Check one for copying Rou's case (Which you'd see even if you ISO'd me.)
Now, at first glance, this doesn't seem too bad. But let's, for a moment, assume Chaore is scum. This means having Alice lynched would be a good thing (assuming Alice isn't scum). But, it's a wagon of jokevotes, started by a self-vote, no less. It's preposterous to think it'd ACTUALLY cause a lynch. So, instead; jump off the wagon, make yourself look town, and you aren't losing a possible lynch anyway! And once accused about it, jump on them for calling a pro-town action scummy,; maybe you'll even get a lynch out of that one! Although that last part could just be improvisation/defense. Or I'm thinking too hard.
Latter. The best way to trip up when thinking is overthink yourself- I'M HUMAN Neo, I don't think things ahead in a masterful plan 12 steps ahead. At that, so you're saying I did it solely to look townie- Why the fuck would I need to do that? If I truely didn't think there was a chance for it to occur I'd not worry about it at -all-. I'm on from a joke vote, NO ONE is going to touch me over it. I don't need to worry about looking town at that point.
However, if it does look like it MAY go to a lynch- why make the chance harder? I mean, no one is going to blame me for happening to be on with a joke vote. As scum, I don't have a good motive to stop a lynch, unless of course, the lynch is scum. Also go ahead and claim Alice is scum, I wouldn't blame you at current, but then again you're so sure you're convicting someone else instead.
Once again, Something from ROU'S case, which is again, dead.
Next, he jumps on a newb making newb mistakes (Yes, that was me, and yes, it was a ridiculously dumbass thing that I did, slightly surprised now that I wasn't attacked more about it), and although I really cannot blame him for it, he sticks to it as other cases continue to develop and mine goes pretty much unnoticed and useless. Unnoticed is what scum want to be, of course, so why change the vote? Especially considering the developing wagons don't really have great cases either. Let them get lynched on their own without supporting them; keeps scum suspicion low for yourself, mhmm?
...are you serious, Neo? You say you can't blame me for it then try to blame me for it? Not supporting a wagon isn't a reason to call me scum. I mean...seriously. You even SAY there wasn't a good reason for me to change to the other wagons. How is this making me scum? It's a justified action and is not slanted in either way. Given you probably stopped thinking here that you'd need to prove anything, as surely the outdated case that was answered would carry your conviction through enough to this point.
the end, when there's almost no time left at all before a no-lynch happens, Chaore goes and gives Zakeri the final nail in the coffin. It's not scummy to keep a no-lynch from happening, so it's a safe action; and it gives scum the townie lynch they want to have.
I notice no one has tried to nail me for this for the exact reason you said, this isn't scummy so much as ensuring a damn lynch. As much you've gotten out of it as that I prefered a Zak lynch to a Zent lynch, which, even with a scum flip on Zent, isn't exactly a tell in itself for the reason there is no reason to believe ONLY SCUM WOULD PREFER A ZAK LYNCH. Especially since you're on that wagon, go ahead, I dare you to say the only way I'd have made that choice is as scum.
So let me get your case straight here. HALF of this is stuff on my unvote Rou essentially asked already and got answers from, which he then UNVOTED for. The other half aren't even actual scum tells and mostly work better with the idea I'm already judged scum. Well hey, I can say this is a crappy reason to vote me, but go ahead if you think you know better.
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I've already adressed the -faintest- reasoning as to why the fuck you're voting me with the bit on the voting Zak, so I'll assume I've responded to you well enough I can simply go get a fucking drink on this one.
