Things you Hate/Like about Touhou

[Pai!]

Love the characters.
Love the music.
Love the gameplay.
Hate the fact that I'm terrible at it.
Hate that Cirno is not the final boss of EoSD, for I lose interest after her stage.

[Tengukami]

But... it is cheating.

... not this again ...

[CarefreeCat]

Hate that Cirno is not the final boss of EoSD, for I lose interest after her stage.

 I always found Cirno and Rumia's stage a bit boring, but Chinese Tea always revived me. And if you haven't fought Remilia yet, I guarantee you won't lose interest during her stage.

[Pai!]

I always found Cirno and Rumia's stage a bit boring, but Chinese Tea always revived me. And if you haven't fought Remilia yet, I guarantee you won't lose interest during her stage.

I haven't gotten to Remilia, though I am aware of her epic theme... but I just have Chirumiru Cirno running through my head during Chinese Tea and it's sort of like, "Oh, I wanna go listen again~" And during my bit of distraction, I die four or five times. Which discourages me, and leads me to restarting .-. Sigh.

[Ghaleon]

How can you lose interest just before the whole SDM cast, they are like the coolest group in all of Touhou! blasphemy!

[Pai!]

I know! >O I love the whole SDM cast lots. It annoys me that I can never get to them though... I always run out of continues on Patchouli. >>

[Ghaleon]

I know! >O I love the whole SDM cast lots. It annoys me that I can never get to them though... I always run out of continues on Patchouli. >>

She's a nasty one. Eirin would cure her illnesses but Patchy would dominate all of Gensokyo if she did >=)

[Pai!]

She's a nasty one. Eirin would cure her illnesses but Patchy would dominate all of Gensokyo if she did >=)

... that's actually quite fun to imagine. Good 'ol Eirin~ 8D

[CarefreeCat]

She's a nasty one. Eirin would cure her illnesses but Patchy would dominate all of Gensokyo if she did >=)

Damn right! Patchy always ruins my chances of finishing EoSD with 1 continue on normal and up.

[Pai!]

Damn right! Patchy always ruins my chances of finishing EoSD with 1 continue on normal and up.

I still can't get past it at all... on Easy... That's another thing I hate about Touhou >< Not enough Continues.

[CarefreeCat]

That's when you do one of my favorite things about Touhou: Focus! I wouldn't even be able to get past Rumia without it.

[Alice★f]

How can you lose interest just before the whole SDM cast, they are like the coolest group in all of Touhou! blasphemy!

Hell yeah! Woo!
The SDM Cast and the SA Cast are my favorites, honestly.

[Goldom]

Gotta add to hate list...
Practicing something over and over, finally getting to where I can do it with some regularity, then getting to it in regular play, and panicking straight into the first bullet I see.

Also EYE STRAIN

[Napalnman1231]

Things that I like about Touhou:

All Games
Fandom
Characters
Music
Megamari

Hate:

Touhou H Doujin (I don't like how they treat Flandre and Suwako there)
EX Keine (I don't hate her as a character, just in the game)
IN 3rd Stage - Keine's boss battle

[Hakkai]

I just HATE these snake-laser

[Trinket]

Oh yeah.

Curvy lasers. God damnit, curvy lasers.

[Zengeku]

Touhou H Doujin (I don't like how they treat Flandre and Suwako there)

But they are both way beyond 18 years old.

[Alice★f]

Touhou H Doujin (I don't like how they treat Flandre and Suwako there)

Why? Some of them are very high quality, I gotta admit, but the rest is a load of unmarketable crap.

Touhou H Doujins outnumber all other franchises by a huge margin, and it's only a small fraction of all doujinshi for Touhou.
If I have anything to complain about, it's Inu-Sakuya. Yuck.

Spoiler:

and futa

Another Like:

UN Owen Was Her
But then again, all touhoufags like it, so this is redundant

Spoiler:

not true

[Minunlike]

Things I like:
~ Most characters (Especially Yuyuko)
~ Bullet patterns which are moderately challenging, but not WTF hard
~ Music
~ Utsuho and her goal of world domination (cue M Bison "Of course!" clip)
~ The PC-98 games
~ The dedication of the fans
~ The dedication of ZUN


Things I hate:
~ The UFO system
~ The lack of a cut-in picture for bombs in UFO
~ MoF and SA's bomb system
~ SA in general (besides Utsuho)
~ Characters who are defined only by the concept they represent (Suwako, Yuugi, Koishi)
~ Bullet patterns that require extremely precise movement
~ Fans who insist that their way of playing is the correct way
~ Excessive amounts of H-material
~ Certain memes (Yukkuris are quite annoying, and I don't like Alice's portrayal as a rapist)

[Azure Lazuline]

This is going to sound stupid, but there's only one thing I like about Touhou: the whole thing. Everything is just put together so well, and it doesn't hurt that all of the parts are awesome too. ZUN takes all the little details and forms them into a single experience that can't even be described. The music's good, the graphics are good, the story is funny and deep at the same time, the patterns look wonderful, and the characters are memorable. Any of those alone would be cool, but they all somehow combine into something even better.

[Zengeku]

As deep as a puddle of rainwater, the story that is. Very likeable.

Another thing i like about Touhou is the support it gets from the patchers. The guys who makes english patches and hitbox patches and vsync patches. Awesome that somebody helps ZUN with his own shortcomings.

[Nyyl]

Like:
Addictive gameplay. why do i keep going to byakuren to get my trash kicked~
Awesome musics. (that should be obvious though)
The fact that it has EVERYTHING EVER
Also the story. Touhou story gets a lot of poor reception for being so whimsical and pointless... but I still love it.

Hate:
Fanbase drama. That's pretty much all there is to hate.

[Shade]

I hate danmaku the comes from behind (Patchies Royal flare)
I love the 'reply value'
I like the character selection
I hate how time consuming extra mode takes but like it at the same time.
I like when touhou games have the 'practice spell card' mode.

And how could I forget:

I like how challenging it is
I love the music.

[Radaxen]

Like:

Music
Characters
Music
Music Remixes
Epic pictures of ANY character
All the Final Boss Themes
The fighting games because I suck at the standard ones
...Music



Dislike:

Easy is too hard for newbs ...(can't even clear EoSD, SA Easy using all continues)
Too little chars in TH12.3 (don't think many people care about this one)
Touhou pr0n
Some of the fanbase
Merlin Prismriver (okay I admit, it's curvy lasers)

[mew77]

easy is too hard...but that's by stage 4 on EoSD

and stage 5 on SA

SA stage 4 is still doable, but Yuugi is still frustrating.

Like
the music
the remixes of the music
some comics
the games
Touhou allowed me to rediscover the scrolling shooter genre

[WanderingKnight]

Dislike:

Fandumb. The only reason I like Touhou is because of the STGs.

Love/Hate relationship:

The UFO mechanic. It's terribly gimmicky, but chasing UFOs makes things a lot more interesting and gives me a rush that only late-stage bosses and post-stage 2 Cave games give me. UFO has probably the most fun stage portions in all of Touhou games because of this. But I can't convince myself that it is good as a scoring mechanic--since I'm still bad at the game, I need to play for survival and as such my scores suck balls. But at the same time, that gives it an even higher learning curve (meaning a longer life for the game) which makes it even more appealing. Also whoever said that it's bad as a resource management strategy, it is the ultimate resource management strategy. At least in order to get a good score.

Honestly, about the discussion in the first posts (no I don't think Bananamatic was trolling) Cave games and Touhou games are completely different beasts. Cave games tend to have a lot more aimed bullets (randomized as Banana said) which forces you to play faster and basically makes it less about memorization and more about reflexes, though memorization still plays a big part in it. Touhou has a notably inferior number of aimed patterns--in fact, most of the patterns are either static (to some degree) or completely random, and sometimes I don't see too much thought put into, for example, mixing a whole bunch of aimed bullets coupled with one or two enemies firing a static pattern during the stage portions, which leads to the blandness some people complain about in Touhou's stage portions. This is not bad per se, but it leads itself to a whole different style of play.

Which leads me to my ultimate complaint about the series: How playing Touhou makes me bad at other shmups and viceversa :V

[Tengukami]

Cave games and Touhou games are completely different beasts. Cave games tend to have a lot more aimed bullets (randomized as Banana said) which forces you to play faster and basically makes it less about memorization and more about reflexes, though memorization still plays a big part in it. Touhou has a notably inferior number of aimed patterns--in fact, most of the patterns are either static (to some degree) or completely random, and sometimes I don't see too much thought put into, for example, mixing a whole bunch of aimed bullets coupled with one or two enemies firing a static pattern during the stage portions, which leads to the blandness some people complain about in Touhou's stage portions. This is not bad per se, but it leads itself to a whole different style of play.

Having watched plenty of Touhou and a fair amount of Cave, I honestly cannot see where you're coming from here. Maybe I'm missing something, but there are countless Touhou spellcards I could name that involve "aimed patterns". I'd go so far as to say the "completely random" ones seem to be in the minority (lookin' at you, PoFV). Cave has plenty of random crap floating around, too.

All due respect for your opinion and all, it's just the complete opposite of my experience.

[WanderingKnight]

Flip on Dodonpachi and look at the first stage--during the whole stage portion, almost every single pattern is aimed (actually, except for the bosses, I think the whole of the first stage in Dodonpachi is aimed patterns). Flip on any Touhou game and you'll see almost the exact opposite.

That's not to say there aren't aimed attacks in Touhou--there are quite a few. But given any random snapshot of a spellcard or a stage portion in Touhou, a vast majority of the time most of the bullets on the screen aren't aimed at you. That's not to say it makes the game easier or harder--well, for me in particular it makes it easier, though some people might have more problems micrododging and memorizing patterns.

[Azinth]

Flip on Dodonpachi and look at the first stage--during the whole stage portion, almost every single pattern is aimed (actually, except for the bosses, I think the whole of the first stage in Dodonpachi is aimed patterns). Flip on any Touhou game and you'll see almost the exact opposite.

That's not to say there aren't aimed attacks in Touhou--there are quite a few. But given any random snapshot of a spellcard or a stage portion in Touhou, a vast majority of the time most of the bullets on the screen aren't aimed at you. That's not to say it makes the game easier or harder--well, for me in particular it makes it easier, though some people might have more problems micrododging and memorizing patterns.

Just about every stage 1 of every Windows Touhou game is nothing but aimed patterns.  In fact, the vast majority of Touhou stages are nothing but aimed patterns, usually in the form of a stream aimed at your hitbox that can be simply tap-dodged.  What are you talking about? :/

[Nyyl]

Flip on Dodonpachi and look at the first stage--during the whole stage portion, almost every single pattern is aimed (actually, except for the bosses, I think the whole of the first stage in Dodonpachi is aimed patterns). Flip on any Touhou game and you'll see almost the exact opposite.

That's not to say there aren't aimed attacks in Touhou--there are quite a few. But given any random snapshot of a spellcard or a stage portion in Touhou, a vast majority of the time most of the bullets on the screen aren't aimed at you. That's not to say it makes the game easier or harder--well, for me in particular it makes it easier, though some people might have more problems micrododging and memorizing patterns.

It feels... kinda the opposite to me, actually. From what I've played of Cave STGs, most of the challenge comes from bullets going in every direction, making you maneuver through a "field" of danmaku. DDP stages do have aiming, I'll give you that, but the bosses are mostly static blasts of bullets. Touhou, on the other hand, has liberal amounts of aimed patterns. Even some boss attacks are aimed. Though, your point still stands. It's true that Touhou requires more memorization than Cave shooters, which rely more on reflex.