Author Topic: How can I get better at deathbombing?  (Read 11224 times)

Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 11:21:26 PM »
The deathbomb window is usually within 0.1~0.3 seconds of getting hit, IIRC.


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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 11:27:11 PM »
The deathbomb window is usually within 0.1~0.3 seconds of getting hit, IIRC.
Hmmm... I get from 0.22 to 0.25. How long is the actual deathbomb window? ^^;
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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 11:30:13 PM »
How can you check your reflexes? I wanna know mine.

Also, what everyone says. You can't react on sound alone, you have to know in advance you're going to die. What you CAN semi-consistently deathbomb with is the knowledge that a bullet has hit you, rather than listening for a sound.

NVM, found a reflex tester myself. on this test at least, my reflexes average around 0.2
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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 11:41:22 PM »
How can you check your reflexes? I wanna know mine.

Also, what everyone says. You can't react on sound alone, you have to know in advance you're going to die. What you CAN semi-consistently deathbomb with is the knowledge that a bullet has hit you, rather than listening for a sound.

NVM, found a reflex tester myself. on this test at least, my reflexes average around 0.2

http://getyourwebsitehere.com/jswb/rttest01.html

Right here.

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 11:43:20 PM »
SakuyaB is still a poor choice for "I'm still trying to 1cc lunatic for my first time" thing though....It's more of a "I no-bomb 1cc'd lunatic blindfolded" character >=P
Grraaaaah I hate it when people say that SakuyaB isn't usable unless you're going for score or challenge or some crap. I can use SakuyaB better than I can MarisaA, and nearly matches ReimuB. Rapes stages thoroughly mainly because of her powerful and free-angled shot, but also since her bombs have even more invincibility time than Master Spark (although they do shit for damage). I wouldn't recommend her to people, no, but it doesn't mean she's difficult to use.

i would like to say however that merlin's opener is absolute bullshit with b

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 11:49:53 PM »
I got 0.171 on my mouse, and 0.22 on my keyboard (with both hands), perhaps using an old 1980s keyboard is a bad idea for shmups, seriously, I wonder if I can improve my Touhou skills by a simple new keyboard...I like this board though >=(

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 11:58:43 PM »
0.277

lol I'm an embarrassment to all lunatic players.
2 AM is probably not the best time to do this.

However, this is not a bad thing.  :V

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2010, 01:00:35 AM »
Deathbombs are essentially pointless, because panic bombing itself will become pointless.
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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2010, 02:11:06 AM »
Did the reflex test out of curiosity/boredom, got 0.195.

Not that something like this is useful, of course. The fact that I'm actively paying attention for something to happen will skew the results, plus that deathbombing in Touhou requires prior knowledge that a bullet is going to hit me (thus somewhat widening the window for me to react).
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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2010, 09:53:07 AM »
Grraaaaah I hate it when people say that SakuyaB isn't usable unless you're going for score or challenge or some crap. I can use SakuyaB better than I can MarisaA, and nearly matches ReimuB. Rapes stages thoroughly mainly because of her powerful and free-angled shot, but also since her bombs have even more invincibility time than Master Spark (although they do shit for damage). I wouldn't recommend her to people, no, but it doesn't mean she's difficult to use.

i would like to say however that merlin's opener is absolute bullshit with b
I'm using SakuyaB on my first tries 1cc'ing PCB. It's a toss up between using her and Reimu, Sakuya is probably better because of the extra speed.

Which attack do you refer to as opener, the very first non spellcard of the bossfight? If so I absolutely agree.

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2010, 01:44:59 PM »
0.277

lol I'm an embarrassment to all lunatic players.
2 AM is probably not the best time to do this.

However, this is not a bad thing.  :V

0.264 but I play easy modo  :V

I had to attempt it twice though as I have trigger happy mouse sydrome, and whenever I use a mouse for anything I occasionally just click for no reason, And I did on the test at an absolute coincidence, the exact same moment the dot changed colour.

So for one the first time around I got a reaction time of 0.005  :V or maybe I'm just godlike and don't realise it?

Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2010, 03:47:11 PM »
That reflex test made me realize why deathbombing is never a viable option for me.

Panicbombing is the way to go.   :V

Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2010, 03:55:55 PM »
Reflex tests are a really silly way to test your actual reflexes. Like it says at the end, your startle reflex is much faster (faster than even the test suggests), and Touhou is all about the panic reflexes. In a test, where everything is controlled and most of the time you're not putting nearly as much effort into is as you could be (even if you think you are, you're not), your reflexes are much more relaxed and thus slower than what you would use in videogames or something similar.

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Re: How can I get better at deathbombing?
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2010, 08:34:37 PM »
Reflex tests are a really silly way to test your actual reflexes. Like it says at the end, your startle reflex is much faster (faster than even the test suggests), and Touhou is all about the panic reflexes. In a test, where everything is controlled and most of the time you're not putting nearly as much effort into is as you could be (even if you think you are, you're not), your reflexes are much more relaxed and thus slower than what you would use in videogames or something similar.

this, but at the same time, there are 2 situations where you deathbomb in Touhou. The first is where you actually meant to bomb before you die, but just so happen to bomb after you die, this is how you SHOULD death bomb most of the time... The other one is when you die, and you try and bomb. The thing with the second one is that due to bullets having hitboxes, and players having hitboxes, and other things. Chances are nobody ever deathbombs after they SEE themselfs get hit, and do it when they hear that "you're hit" noise. Sound-reflexes I believe are slower than visual reflexes.

So while the test might be slower than normal because you're not in high-andrenaline mode, it's also faster because you're looking for a clear-cut digital visual queue with no mistaking.