Author Topic: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!  (Read 50481 times)

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2010, 07:29:18 PM »
CONTINUITY NOTE: The Excelion disappeared at the end of Super Robot Wars Alpha after self-destructing to defeat the STMC.  For those who don't know, STMC stands for Space Terrible Monster Crowd.  Don't ask me why they call them that, I haven't seen Gunbuster!

For those of you who have played Super Robot Wars Original Generation, the Excelion's role in the plot is played by the Hiryu Custom.  In @1, it was the ship that first made contact with Ze Balmary Empire, whom you might know better as the Aerogators.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2010, 07:40:02 PM »
Since I have my own sources of knowledge, I think I'll help out here too.

Mecha Note:

The Fish Ducks are Joelahs. They're scout drones used by Ze Balmary Empire (Better know to most of you here (I.E.: Those of you who have only played OG1 and 2) as the Aerogaters). They're an upgrade of the Megillots, AKA, those pathetically weak blue bug looking things that OG1 tosses at you early on. These things are utter weaksauce. They're just here to ease you into things.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2010, 07:51:05 PM »
ahahahaha like upgrading a fucking Megillot will really do jack shit for it. :V

A useless alien piece of crap is still a useless alien piece of crap after all. :V (even if it does have a nice name. :B)
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2010, 07:59:03 PM »
Joelahs actually become a fair bit faster later on and become a bit annoying to hit.  They still aren't threatening and don't do much damage.  You will learn to fear the non-grunt Aerogator units.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2010, 08:02:34 PM »
I feel a bit sorry for Moerin after that little tease. :ohdear:

Also. Hell yeah Touma path.

Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2010, 08:09:56 PM »
Any chance of commentated videos exhibiting what the mechs can do?

But aside from that, an excellent start. Moerin, I think you have just the right amount of screenshots in this update.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2010, 10:10:00 PM »
Any chance of commentated videos exhibiting what the mechs can do?

I probably shouldn't be the one saying this, but Moerin doesn't like talking that much. Maybe Rabbit might be interested, I wouldn't know.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2010, 11:04:46 PM »
I probably shouldn't be the one saying this, but Moerin doesn't like talking that much. Maybe Rabbit might be interested, I wouldn't know.

That and I have no video recording programs.  But it's something to think about, I guess.

And thanks for the comments, everyone~  This is my first LP, so I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing, so it's encouraging to know that I haven't screwed up royally yet.

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Ahem.  Anyways, we now return to our regularly scheduled LP~


Previously, Touma was about to be horribly killed by Joelahs Fishducks.  Naturally, he is not too keen on this prospect.  However, just at that moment, a... Big... Metal... Box-thing appears beside him.  Your guess is as good as mine.


Apparently it's called LIOH, or it's AI is called that.  Um... I dunno, someone else can probably clear this up for me.  A few seconds later, it explodes.


No, seriously, it explodes.  And... Something jumps out of the exploding box.  What could this possibly be?


A giant robot!  That is what I least expected!  Touma is now the proud pilot of the Raioh!

Wait... Y'know, the whole design motif seems somewhat familiar... I mean, if it had a flying kick, it'd be just like Kam-


...Yep.  Raioh is pretty much Kamen Rider.


Not much more to see here, really.  Kamen Raioh wipes the floor with the Fishducks.


"Holy crap you're Gai goddamn Shishioh!  Oh god, can I get your autograph!?"
"Oh god... Fanboys."

And with that, the mission ends, and we are brought to this screen...

...Which I shall go into more detail in the next update (hopefully).

TO BE CONTINUED...

Be sure to catch our next episode, "Gai Shishioh Dies In Flames!"  And don't worry, there'll be plenty of fanservice~!
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2010, 11:12:38 PM »
So how did Touma get into Raioh in the first place?

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2010, 11:19:53 PM »
So how did Touma get into Raioh in the first place?

I assume there was dialog that A: was in japanese and thus Moerin couldn't read, and B: was cut to limit the amount of images.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2010, 11:20:46 PM »
So how did Touma get into Raioh in the first place?

As I can't read Japanese, I can only guess, but I assume that he followed the time honoured tradition of falling into the cockpit~

Although knowing me the truth is a probably a much different story.

...Also what Xan said.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2010, 11:32:43 PM »
As I can't read Japanese, I can only guess, but I assume that he followed the time honoured tradition of falling into the cockpit~

Although knowing me the truth is a probably a much different story.

...Also what Xan said.

Touma 100% definately DID fall into the cockpit. The Raioh was definately not designed for him, as it is one of the DGG units. I don't know if they state who Bian intended it for in @verse, but my guess is that OG-wise he probably designed it with Kai Kitamura in mind, given that the other DGGs were given to members of the Aggressors, and it specializes in kicks. On the other hand, Kai didn't join DC, so it's quite possible it was for someone else. We probably won't find out until it appears in an OG game.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2010, 11:50:21 PM »
So how did Touma get into Raioh in the first place?

He kicked the box. Obviously, the Raioh recognized his potential and forced him into the cockpit after that.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2010, 01:22:41 AM »
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Apparently it's called LIOH, or it's AI is called that.  Um... I dunno, someone else can probably clear this up for me.  A few seconds later, it explodes.

The AI is storing the Raiou, and from the previous dialogue he either fell into the cockpit, was pushed into it, or actually just jumped into it. As Xan mentioned, Raiou was not really made for him in the first place... The AI of course wouldn't recognize the pilot data, and thus would re-initialize. I guess this is why it exploded >_>;;

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2010, 03:56:07 AM »
The AI is storing the Raiou, and from the previous dialogue he either fell into the cockpit, was pushed into it, or actually just jumped into it. As Xan mentioned, Raiou was not really made for him in the first place... The AI of course wouldn't recognize the pilot data, and thus would re-initialize. I guess this is why it exploded >_>;;

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2010, 05:53:33 AM »
Get the Quin Mantha, if possible.

It is the raep.

Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2010, 02:32:32 PM »
I'm going to throw in a request to demonstrate the Tallgeese, if possible.

Maybe it's worth using in this game!

Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2010, 03:32:44 PM »
All units are viable in a squad.

Except Boss.

Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2010, 04:19:40 PM »
All units are viable in a squad.

Except Boss.

Yes, but Gundam Wing units have always been part of the lower-echelon mechs. I was just wondering if they are good in @3.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2010, 10:14:33 PM »
All units are viable in a squad.

Except Boss.

I would link to that video of Boss killing
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but I'm sure you've seen it already.

Yes, but Gundam Wing units have always been part of the lower-echelon mechs. I was just wondering if they are good in @3.

The power of the Wing units is pretty respectable in this game.  They don't feature prominently in the early parts of Touma's route, but they're the main fixture in Selena's route, which is not being covered.  The Wing Zero's Rolling Buster Rifle is rather strong plus it benefits from the Zero system as well.  The Sandrock, Heavy Arms and Deathscythe make good support units and the Altron is surprisingly strong with good range and very little maintenance required.  Wu Fei's only problem is that he has only short range post-movement attacks so it's a good idea to put Hit & Away on him if you can.  I don't remember whether you get it in @3.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2010, 11:41:12 PM »
The power of the Wing units is pretty respectable in this game.  They don't feature prominently in the early parts of Touma's route, but they're the main fixture in Selena's route, which is not being covered.  The Wing Zero's Rolling Buster Rifle is rather strong plus it benefits from the Zero system as well.  The Sandrock, Heavy Arms and Deathscythe make good support units and the Altron is surprisingly strong with good range and very little maintenance required.  Wu Fei's only problem is that he has only short range post-movement attacks so it's a good idea to put Hit & Away on him if you can.  I don't remember whether you get it in @3.
What about the Tallgeese? Everyone knows it's the only one that matters.

Speaking of Wing, what does the Zero System do in this game?

Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2010, 01:34:49 AM »
Tallgeese is actually pretty damn good with minimal upgrades.  Hello long range attack with no morale requirements?

I usually tend to group Wing and Tallgeese together in their own little squad for taking out grunts and sometimes bosses.

Doesn't Zero System boost all stats at 130 morale or something?  Or was that SRW Advance.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2010, 01:54:51 PM »
Except Boss.

Bite your tounge. Boss is awesome.

What about the Tallgeese? Everyone knows it's the only one that matters.

Bah. They're all good except Sandrock D:<

Also, I think we may need a snack while watching this

« Last Edit: March 15, 2010, 04:20:11 PM by Maid Xan~ »
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2010, 02:15:50 PM »
4chan isn't the best place to link images from, given its temporary nature.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2010, 02:19:40 PM »
4chan isn't the best place to link images from, given its temporary nature.

I'm aware of this. Once the pic goes down, I'll delete it.
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2010, 02:33:08 PM »
You could always, oh... use an image uploader or something to host it indefinitely?

Tinypic even has a function to save pictures from a URL instead of your hard drive.

Finally - direct linking is, in fact, prohibited here.  Even to 4chan.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2010, 04:18:46 PM »
You could always, oh... use an image uploader or something to host it indefinitely?

Tinypic even has a function to save pictures from a URL instead of your hard drive.

Finally - direct linking is, in fact, prohibited here.  Even to 4chan.

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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2010, 10:47:13 PM »
Tallgeese is actually pretty damn good with minimal upgrades.  Hello long range attack with no morale requirements?

I usually tend to group Wing and Tallgeese together in their own little squad for taking out grunts and sometimes bosses.

Doesn't Zero System boost all stats at 130 morale or something?  Or was that SRW Advance.

Just got the Tallgeese in my Selena playthrough.  It seems to be a respectable and solid machine, but then again I was using it against Megillots so I don't think that one mission was a good judge of character.  It  is certainly better than it is in other games I've used it in; the attacks don't cost a whole lot of energy like they do in other games and Zechs is generally quite a good pilot.  I don't know what his squad leader bonus is (these will come up later in the LP when squads actually become relevant, for those of you non-SRW players reading the off-topic stuff) but he has a good spirit selection so as an all-rounder it's quite good.

The Zero System does boost all stats and it's usually at 130 will.  The problem in @3 is that I think it's 140 will.  I will have to actually pay attention next time it activates.  This makes getting maximum mileage out of Zero a little difficult early on because you only get the global morale boost for wiping out entire squads.  It gets better once you start getting Fire Bomber and Mic Sounders XIII.

Ultimately, the Tallgeese and Zero are about equal early on in any given battle but in the long run the Zero definitely outpaces it.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2010, 10:49:07 PM by Rabbit »
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Re: Let's play Super Robot Wars Alpha 3~!
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2010, 10:53:39 PM »
I meant to update this today, but unfortunately I had some important work to do which ended up taking a lot longer than I thought it would, and as such I never got the time to do so.  Sorry!  But hopefully there should be an update tomorrow, if all goes to plan~  But here's a teensy weensy sneak preview for now...


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I'm going to throw in a request to demonstrate the Tallgeese, if possible.

Maybe it's worth using in this game!

I will hopefully be trying out all the mecha I get as the game progresses, although there is a chance that I might end up overusing some out of sheer fanboyism.  So, um, don't be surprised if you see lots of screenshots of Gunbuster, Ideon, the Evangelions and Fire Bomber when I eventually get to recruit them, ahah~

All units are viable in a squad.

Except Boss.

Boss is immortal and can breathe in space.  Now that I have said it, it must be canon~!
« Last Edit: March 15, 2010, 11:01:37 PM by Cutey Moerin~♥ »
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