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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2010, 07:45:03 AM »
By creating them, do you mean something like creating them from scratch like Mr. Bubble does? If that's the case, then I apologize, I can't do anything like that. ^^" I'm no good at vectoring or graphical manipulation. I suppose there really isn't anything I can do but twiddle my thumbs and drool. xD
Well, no; you don't have to create the graphics for them from scratch or something (Lord knows I can't do that myself, hell it's been All RTP All The Time so far but I've done some decent stuff with it), it's just a matter of actually creating the animations in the database.

But yeah :3

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #151 on: July 03, 2010, 07:52:55 AM »
If it's compiling them in the database into what looks nice and solid, I MIGHT be able to do that, but no guarantees. I'm no skilled user of RMVX myself, I only have about a month or two's worth of experience. x'D

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #152 on: July 03, 2010, 08:01:35 AM »
If it's compiling them in the database into what looks nice and solid, I MIGHT be able to do that, but no guarantees. I'm no skilled user of RMVX myself, I only have about a month or two's worth of experience. x'D
It's not too hard, just a little on the tedious side, since every once in a while you realise that what you're creating is -terrible- and have to go back and redo everything.

Mess around with it some, though; for now I've got all the animations I need (I think?), so I should be good, until I start work on the second floor.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #153 on: July 03, 2010, 08:14:47 AM »
Yup. In any case, I refuse to let myself work on someone else's project in an area I'm no good in or where said someone's skills are better than mine. xD No sense in ruining someone else's project.

In any case, since my forte's writing, if you ever need miscellaneous conversations you can't be bothered thinking up, let me know. I don't mind if you don't have anything for me though. xD

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #154 on: July 04, 2010, 09:34:47 AM »
Just so you know, I'm using this game to determine if I should learn rpg maker myself.
No pressure. Are there other game making tools like rpg maker that are good for making games quicker than C? Preferably one suited to turn based strategy games instead of RPGs. I don't mind c as a language, but I absolutely hate mfc,win32,d3d, and OpenGL. So anything that does those things for me is good, even if it's fairly "low level" (code wise) compared to rpg maker.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #155 on: July 04, 2010, 10:40:16 AM »
Just so you know, I'm using this game to determine if I should learn rpg maker myself.
No pressure. Are there other game making tools like rpg maker that are good for making games quicker than C? Preferably one suited to turn based strategy games instead of RPGs. I don't mind c as a language, but I absolutely hate mfc,win32,d3d, and OpenGL. So anything that does those things for me is good, even if it's fairly "low level" (code wise) compared to rpg maker.
There's quite a lot.  The fact is that using a base programming language for creating a game is generally -not- advisable, if speed is your chief concern.  If it's not, and you have the skills, you will generally get far better results by not using it - in many cases, the core engine of these programs suffer some kind of limitations that you just can't break.  Of course if you're fine with those limitations, have at 'er!
Either way, there's plenty of X Maker programs and other engines that you can use to help speed things up.  Nothing immediately comes to mind on the turn-based strategy front however.


Also I'm happy to announce I totally sent the first floor to a certain delta tester (I don't even feel I can call it a beta yet) and got them through it after some unexpected bugfixes (most of which were really trivial mistakes... though one made me absolutely freak out and discover an error in the core VX script!).  I feel success.

Does it mean I'm releasing it anytime soon?  Nah, there's still SEVERAL things I need to work on - including starting 2F now, I suppose, but someone other than me actually got to do something and came back saying "This is awesome" and that makes me really happy, and hopefully motivated too.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 10:44:51 AM by Garlyle »

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #156 on: July 04, 2010, 10:46:50 AM »
Just so you know, I'm waiting for it, too. Just don't take too much time with the demo, please.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2010, 10:56:20 AM »
Just so you know, I'm waiting for it, too. Just don't take too much time with the demo, please.
Haha, that's good.  I'll try not to.

I could release a 1F beta once that's really done, or wait until 2F's complete at least (The point at which I'm planning on demoreleasing).  It's up to the people, really.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2010, 12:18:04 PM »
I could release a 1F beta once that's really done, or wait until 2F's complete at least (The point at which I'm planning on demoreleasing).  It's up to the people, really.

Wait a minute... we can DECIDE if you release a demo already?

I vote for "All I need is 1F for now".

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2010, 12:48:26 PM »
I have a question, Ghaleon. Are you after a sRPG Maker (In the form of something similar to Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea, also known as Tactical RPGs)? If so, Enterbrain, the same publisher who made the RPG Maker series have made one, but this was a long time ago and it was never released in English (But there're fan translations). Enterbrain as a whole are good at their 'Maker' software, they had a 2D Fighter Maker as well that I got into for a brief period some years ago.

Alternatively, there are scripts for RMVX and RMXP made by a fellow named GubiD that allow you to make sRPGs in both RMVX and RMXP, the RMXP version having mouse support as well as keyboard input. There're plenty of Japanese scripts out there that allow it too. But as Garlyle said, if you want a particular system, the best thing to do is to make it yourself through whatever language you want. I know someone made a pretty good Touhou sRPG in Python on this board. xD

Anyways, I should get back on topic.

I personally think we should wait for the one that you want to release, rather than letting us decide. xD That said, I wouldn't mind an alpha release for me to play around with. Your call really, and you said it's up to us, so bleh. I'll let the others decide. xD

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #160 on: July 04, 2010, 02:14:37 PM »
I have a question, Ghaleon. Are you after a sRPG Maker (In the form of something similar to Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea, also known as Tactical RPGs)? If so, Enterbrain, the same publisher who made the RPG Maker series have made one, but this was a long time ago and it was never released in English (But there're fan translations). Enterbrain as a whole are good at their 'Maker' software, they had a 2D Fighter Maker as well that I got into for a brief period some years ago.
For the love of god don't suggest SRPG Maker 95 to him.

Unless he wants to make a Fire Emblem game.  In which case, sure.

...And from the sounds of it, people wouldn't mind a not-entirely-glorious alpha release containing 1F?  Well, hm.  I can probably do that.  It'll still be a bit because I want to make sure everything's there and implemented and stuff, but if people don't mind the fact that it'll be a bit content-short...
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 03:01:58 PM by Garlyle »

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #161 on: July 04, 2010, 03:01:35 PM »
Hey, he asked for it. >=3 I'm just presenting options is all~

Purdy much. And will you be including the RTP or will you upload a non-RTP version with a link to the RTP?

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #162 on: July 04, 2010, 03:02:59 PM »
Hey, he asked for it. >=3 I'm just presenting options is all~

Purdy much. And will you be including the RTP or will you upload a non-RTP version with a link to the RTP?
I'm probably going to attempt to make it Standalone (You won't need the RTP to run it as every important file will be there in the game itself, which I know for a fact is possible)

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #163 on: July 04, 2010, 11:28:19 PM »
I'm patient, I'll wait 5 years for 1 floor if I have to. I personally want to try this game but I'd rather have it's developer do what they think is best.
SRPGs aren't what I have in mind.
My dream game I want to make is a TBS like civilization or master of Orion, only faster like advance wars. More like advance wars, only with MUCH more significance on economy, research, town development and construction.
And the military portion is customizeable like armored core mechs.

Sounds ambitious but I have little desire for graphics and animation, I also don't intend to have the massive tech trees of civ or moo, just a similar style.

I wonder if I should use unreal script... I'm pretty proficient with that.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #164 on: July 05, 2010, 05:46:21 AM »
Garlyle, it's easily possible. All y'have to do is go to File > Compress Game Data and tick Include RTP Data, and it'll be standalone. The DOWNSIDE of that is that unless I'm very much mistaken, the maker will include all RTP files, even those you're not using. It's simple enough to overcome though, just copy/move all the files you're using from the normal directories (Install Path\Graphics and/or Sound) and put them into your game folder before compressing, leaving behind those you're not. I THINK that should do the trick, I've never tried it myself though.

Ghaleon, I think I see what you mean. Basically instead of something where the battle system is a TBS but everything else is an RPG (Disgaea, Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactics Ogre, blah blah blah), you're aiming for a game where everything is handled within the isometric field (Advance Wars, Battle of Westnoth)? Hmm... Through scripting, this should be possible in RMVX, but I think in this case it's far better to stick with making your own maker/engine or something along those lines. ^^"

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #165 on: July 05, 2010, 06:34:52 AM »
Garlyle, it's easily possible. All y'have to do is go to File > Compress Game Data and tick Include RTP Data, and it'll be standalone. The DOWNSIDE of that is that unless I'm very much mistaken, the maker will include all RTP files, even those you're not using. It's simple enough to overcome though, just copy/move all the files you're using from the normal directories (Install Path\Graphics and/or Sound) and put them into your game folder before compressing, leaving behind those you're not. I THINK that should do the trick, I've never tried it myself though.
Yeah, I know.  There's actually more to it than that as you also have to include a couple key DLL files for anyone who doesn't have it, but yeah.
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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #166 on: July 05, 2010, 06:40:46 AM »
Oh god don't let me take that long.

I'll get the whip then.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #167 on: July 05, 2010, 06:45:00 AM »
Yeah, I know.  There's actually more to it than that as you also have to include a couple key DLL files for anyone who doesn't have it, but yeah.

That would most likely be the RGSS202E.dll. But I'd include both the RGSS200J.dll and the RGSS202J.dll files as well just in case. And you'll also need the Font folder, but I'm sure you already know that.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #168 on: July 19, 2010, 03:52:02 AM »
I wonder, who are the characters on level 2 or are you keeping it a secret until you release the game?  :ohdear:
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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2010, 04:08:20 PM »
I wonder, who are the characters on level 2 or are you keeping it a secret until you release the game?  :ohdear:
Secret 8D

...Well, I will say that if I'm doing it right, at least one of the characters on 2F is the kind of character whose wish should tug on your heartstrings a little.  But, uh...That's all I'm saying.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #170 on: July 20, 2010, 04:54:00 AM »
I can't wait for this game to finish. Faster, FASTER!!!

Also, you have any screen shots of what you have so far?
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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #171 on: July 20, 2010, 05:27:09 AM »
This looks interesting..  Garlyle, please tell me Kana is useful  :ohdear:
Because I won't be switching her out of the party even when she hits 0s to trash or use useless buffs :V

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #172 on: July 20, 2010, 08:03:31 AM »
I'm pretty sure no game dev ever intentionally makes characters useless. Unless it's like some limited time escort quest thing or whatever.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2010, 03:40:01 PM »
I can't wait for this game to finish. Faster, FASTER!!!

Also, you have any screen shots of what you have so far?
There's screenshots spread around the topic, even if most are outdated.  I don't wanna give too much away, so it's a bit tricky to screenshot stuff right now and still keep things interesting.
This looks interesting..  Garlyle, please tell me Kana is useful  :ohdear:
Because I won't be switching her out of the party even when she hits 0s to trash or use useless buffs :V
I can't yet speak for the long run - after all, it's easy to say "Yes, everyone feels balanced and useful" when the total roster is only 7 characters completed at the moment - but right now Kana is definitely useful.  Just to give you an idea, for the first four characters:

Rinnosuke:
*Battle Theme: 童祭 ~ Innocent Treasures
*Traits: Human Blood (Levels faster), Backliner (Naturally targetted less), Male (Does...?)
*Appraisal [Discerning Antiques]: Reveals a target's full information: HP, MP, stats, and elemental/status vulneurabilities.  He's not the only one who will have this kind of move, but is the only one right now.
*Medicine [First Aid Kit]: Single target, cheap, fast low-strength heal also capable of healing poisons.
*Clear [Deathbed Miracle Procedure]: Revives an ally with 10% HP.  Rock-bottom speed, so the chance of them being KO'd again between it and the next turn starting are very low, but Rinnosuke has to survive the turn.
*Fireworks [Festival of Lights]: Randomly-targetted, questionable accuracy fire damage attack that does a total of five hits.  He's not really all that strong, you know, but you might be surprised in the right situation.
*Overall: Not good at the whole 'doing damage' thing, but an excellent supporting character.  The only character you'll be seeing with scanning, healing, and revival, even if none of them are the best in their class.

Momiji:
*Battle Theme: Fall of Falls ~ Autumnal Waterfall
*Traits: Frontliner (Naturally targetted more), Animal Senses (Natural evasion rate up), Defender (Has more Defend options)
*Dog [Rabies Bite]: Mid-damage Melee attack to one foe that can also lower INT slightly
*Patience [Tengu's Watchful Stare]: Lasting self-buff that raises her ACC and EVA significantly
*Shield [Maple-Printed Aegis]: Raises an ally's Melee & Metal damage resistance
*Nomad [Expellee's Canaan]: Weak wind damage to all foes, and draws enemy fire (Momiji will be targetted more often after use)
*Overall: Your chief tank.  Has a bit low MAG, but outside of that, performs pretty well.  Takes a couple turns to really 'get going' at her best, but once she does...

Kana:
*Battle Theme: Vanishing Dream ~ Lost Dream
*Traits: Faced Death (Immune to Instant Death), Trickster (Natural evasion rate up), Ghostly (Resists Melee/Metal, immune to Poison, critically weak to Spirit)
*Ghost [Soul Bird]: Good Spirit-elemental damage to one foe
*Ghost [Energy Noise]: Terrifies all foes.  Basically useless for bosses, but terrified enemies frequently flee or refuse to attack
*Ghost [A Poltergiest's Daily Activity]: Mid-level Spirit damage to all foes, and slightly lowers ATK
*Spectral [Vision of a Ghost's Nightmare]: Attempts to inflict Bar-STR, which completely negates an enemy's STR-using attacks
*Overall: Magic-based Spirit damage output and good at disabling dangerous enemies.  Not too fragile, either, surprisingly - just, uh... watch out for spirit attacks...

Daiyousei:
*Battle Theme: Lunate Elf
*Traits: Water Nature (Absorb Water, resist Ice, Weak to Elec), Fairy (Resist Elemental defense debuffs), Small Time (Fewer spellcards, but uses virtually no MP)
*Water [Diverting Stream]: Decent water damage to a single foe
*Water [Fountain Fairy's Rain Dance]: Low water damage to all foes
*Mist [Foggy England]: Boosts an ally's Fire resistance
*Overall: Really fairly basic spells and nothing stellar stat-wise but her MP costs are literally less than 1/5th of that of some other characters, so you can even equip gear that will penalize her total MP and still go wild with her.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2010, 03:45:03 PM by Garlyle »

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2010, 09:37:36 PM »
*Appraisal [Discerning Antiques]:

Should only work on PC-98'ers.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #175 on: July 21, 2010, 07:59:24 PM »
Rinnosuke:
*Battle Theme: 童祭 ~ Innocent Treasures

I think you mean:
*Battle Theme: Curious Shanghai Gu Pai
 :V

Unless Rinnsosuke turns into ZUN at some point. That'd be pretty cool.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #176 on: July 21, 2010, 08:33:52 PM »
I think you mean:
*Battle Theme: Curious Shanghai Gu Pai
 :V

Unless Rinnsosuke turns into ZUN at some point. That'd be pretty cool.
While I'd like to, there just aren't any (good) remixes of Shanghai Gu Pai.

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2010, 02:10:59 AM »
I've read this entire thread and personally I cannot wait for this game! The whole game sounds awesome (including PC-98 characters is a huge plus for me) and the fact that you're doing this all by yourself is amazing. I've tried doing something with RPG Maker and....well, it didn't happen. XD

Anyways, I hope to see a beta somewhere in the near future. Keep up the good work! <3

Oh and...Mai is playable in this, right? :3
« Last Edit: July 22, 2010, 02:15:41 AM by Mai »

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2010, 07:33:57 AM »
I've read this entire thread and personally I cannot wait for this game! The whole game sounds awesome (including PC-98 characters is a huge plus for me) and the fact that you're doing this all by yourself is amazing. I've tried doing something with RPG Maker and....well, it didn't happen. XD

Anyways, I hope to see a beta somewhere in the near future. Keep up the good work! <3

Oh and...Mai is playable in this, right? :3
Look forward to her and her sister relatively early, yes (She's not early enough to make the first beta, however)

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Re: Wish Under Celestial Star (Touhou RPG)
« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2010, 07:44:38 AM »
I like Mai myself, if only because she reminds me of Remi >=P.. Her bullet patterns are fairly unique in the world of Touhou too actually.