Black Stories II ~ Case 33: Cursed Vacation

[Pesco]

Was Suwako Perfect Frozen?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Was Suwako Perfect Frozen?

You could probably say that, YES

[Thaws]

Was Suwako's body buried under the lake?
If yes, did Lily White discover Suwako's corpse when the frozen lake thawed?

Cirno pushed Suwako into the lake, then froze the lake. Suwako was not found until Lily White came to herald the beginning of spring when the frozen lake melted and Suwako's body floated to the surface?

Was the motive of Cirno's actions required to be discovered?

Did she do it due to Letty?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Was Suwako's body buried under the lake?
If yes, did Lily White discover Suwako's corpse when the frozen lake thawed?

YES to both

Cirno pushed Suwako into the lake, then froze the lake. Suwako was not found until Lily White came to herald the beginning of spring when the frozen lake melted and Suwako's body floated to the surface?

That's a full YES. Well, my version is that the lake froze over by itself, but that can be ignored, however...

Was the motive of Cirno's actions required to be discovered?

YES

Did she do it due to Letty?

Kind of, YES

...there's still a bit more to go before I let you all off the hook.

[E-Nazrin]

Does this have to do with Cirno's habit of freezing (normal) frogs?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Does this have to do with Cirno's habit of freezing (normal) frogs?

YES

[E-Nazrin]

Is there anything noteworthy about the lake Suwako's body was found in, aside from her body being found there?

Are frog eggs or tadpoles involved...?

[Spidere]

Did Cirno believe whacking Suwako would increase winters length?

Is Suwako truly dead? Forever?

[Seian Verian]

Did Suwako attack Cirno?

Did Suwako otherwise provoke Cirno?

[axman36]

Did Suwako attempt to stop Cirno from freezing frogs?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Is there anything noteworthy about the lake Suwako's body was found in, aside from her body being found there?

NO

Are frog eggs or tadpoles involved...?

Uh...NO

Did Cirno believe whacking Suwako would increase winters length?

Why do I feel like we had this question already? NO again.  :V

Is Suwako truly dead? Forever?

What do I know. I never killed a god, so I dunno if they stay dead. But let's assume YES for this riddle. Even if she could be revived, her body must be in a horrible shape after spending a whole season under the ice.

Did Suwako attack Cirno?

NO

Did Suwako otherwise provoke Cirno?

NOt during the events in the riddle. She kinda provoked her being murdered by past actions though...

Did Suwako attempt to stop Cirno from freezing frogs?

...this would be those actions, YES.

You actually have pretty much all the information you need, as far as I can see. Try working from that, you're really close to the truth.

[axman36]

So basically...

Cirno was fed up with the many times Suwako defeated her for freezing random frogs, so she pushed Suwako into the lake when she wasn't expecting it, and then lake froze over. Then when it unfroze in the spring, Lily discovered the corpse of Suwako?

Or was she freezing frogs again in this scenario?

If so, did she lure her toward the lake, then throw her in the lake?

Are there more details to this that we're missing?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Cirno was fed up with the many times Suwako defeated her for freezing random frogs, so she pushed Suwako into the lake when she wasn't expecting it, and then lake froze over. Then when it unfroze in the spring, Lily discovered the corpse of Suwako?

YES, though it doesn't matter if she pushed her in or killed her another way and then put her in the lake.
What I still want is, however, the answer to: why the timing? Why did she do it at the time she did? If Cirno was only fed up with Suwako she could have tried to kill her at any other time.
It's not that hard really, you all should be able to solve it fast ^^

Or was she freezing frogs again in this scenario?

NO. But she was planning to.

If so, did she lure her toward the lake, then throw her in the lake?

Killing method is IRRELEVANT

Are there more details to this that we're missing?

See first answer. Remember you discovered that another character was relevant? I haven't seen her name in any solution yet, so how about you combine this with my answers above and see what you get?


I actually think I've almost given away the answer now. Let's see  :V

[Pesco]

There was this hugely convoluted plot to gather spring and make it eternally winter. The gathered spring would have to go to Saigyou Ayakashi to make it bloom. But when it blooms, the person buried beneath it would be revived and the youkai cherry blossom would also be unsealed. To keep the tree from getting free, a powerful sacrifice was needed. What better than a goddess? Yukari, Yuyuko and Kanako plotted all of this and sent Cirno to handle the sacrifice while Youmu went to gather spring. Unfortunately, Youmu didn't do the job well enough and took too long. Spring rolled around and shit hit the fan!

 :V

[axman36]

I'm tempted to say that Suwako called Letty fat. No idea why.

Did Suwako insult or harm Letty in some sort of way?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

I'm tempted to say that Suwako called Letty fat. No idea why.

NO

Did Suwako insult or harm Letty in some sort of way?

NO

I'll say, it's a really stupid reason, fitting for a Cirno. Letty will probably hit her for it if she finds out.

There was this hugely convoluted plot to gather spring and make it eternally winter. The gathered spring would have to go to Saigyou Ayakashi to make it bloom. But when it blooms, the person buried beneath it would be revived and the youkai cherry blossom would also be unsealed. To keep the tree from getting free, a powerful sacrifice was needed. What better than a goddess? Yukari, Yuyuko and Kanako plotted all of this and sent Cirno to handle the sacrifice while Youmu went to gather spring. Unfortunately, Youmu didn't do the job well enough and took too long. Spring rolled around and shit hit the fan!

NO It has already been answered that it was not a conspiracy by Kanako, so your theory fails on that little detail alone. Ah, you were so~o close  :V

[axman36]

Did Suwako do anything that may have been related to Letty?

Did Cirno think that Suwako did something related to Letty?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did Suwako do anything that may have been related to Letty?
Did Cirno think that Suwako did something related to Letty?

YES. If you combine the two to 'Suwako did something of which Cirno thought it is (indirectly) related to Letty/ might (very indirectly) affect Letty'
And that 'something' has already been discovered before.

[Thaws]

Did Letty appear?

Did Letty say anything?

Did Letty do anything?

Did Cirno thought Suwako did something to Letty?

Did Suwako make any threats to Cirno regarding Letty?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did Letty appear?

She did appear in winter just as usual, YES

Did Letty say anything?
Did Letty do anything?

Nothing that would be relevant to the case, so IRRELEVANT

Did Cirno thought Suwako did something to Letty?

NO

Did Suwako make any threats to Cirno regarding Letty?

NO. Suwako was never referencing Letty directly or indirectly. It was all Cirno's interpretation of things.


I'll allow a bit more questions, but sometime today I'll solve it myself, since it seems to be dragging. I expect at least a small bit of headdesking when I do  :V

[Thaws]

Did Suwako say something about winter?

Actually, was it somthing Suwako said that made Cirno think of Letty?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did Suwako say something about winter?

NO

Actually, was it somthing Suwako said that made Cirno think of Letty?

YES. Hint time: You already know what Suwako said, she was angry at Cirno for freezing frogs. And she probably even threatened to attack her if she does it again. Work from there.

[Pesco]

Did Suwako say something like 'Letty's so fat....'? :V

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did Suwako say something like 'Letty's so fat....'? :V

D?ja vue? NO again.

[Spidere]

There was this hugely convoluted plot to gather spring and make it eternally winter. The gathered spring would have to go to Saigyou Ayakashi to make it bloom. But when it blooms, the person buried beneath it would be revived and the youkai cherry blossom would also be unsealed. To keep the tree from getting free, a powerful sacrifice was needed. What better than a goddess? Yukari, Yuyuko and Kanako plotted all of this and sent Cirno to handle the sacrifice while Youmu went to gather spring. Unfortunately, Youmu didn't do the job well enough and took too long. Spring rolled around and shit hit the fan!

Fix'd. Does it work now?

 :V

[Dead Princess Sakana]

There was this hugely convoluted plot to gather spring and make it eternally winter. The gathered spring would have to go to Saigyou Ayakashi to make it bloom. But when it blooms, the person buried beneath it would be revived and the youkai cherry blossom would also be unsealed. To keep the tree from getting free, a powerful sacrifice was needed. What better than a goddess? Yukari, Yuyuko and Kanako plotted all of this and sent Cirno to handle the sacrifice while Youmu went to gather spring. Unfortunately, Youmu didn't do the job well enough and took too long. Spring rolled around and shit hit the fan!

Fix'd. Does it work now?

 :V

Why do I feel someone wants to make closer contact with my tuna here?   :V

[Spidere]

Why do I feel someone wants to make closer contact with my tuna here?   :V

Kanako was supposed to be crossed out.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Oh right, fixed it.

That doesn't change the matter though  :V
But screwing around a bit is part of the fun of a game, so it's obviously okay 

[axman36]

Oh whoops, I didn't see I had my questions answered. Heh.

So, Suwako said something to Cirno about freezing the frogs which Cirno thought was related to Letty?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

So, Suwako said something to Cirno about freezing the frogs which Cirno thought was related to Letty?

Cirno related it to Letty by herself, YES. In a simple and idiotic way though, fitting for a Cirno.