Author Topic: How do you die more frequently?  (Read 14930 times)

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2010, 10:20:30 PM »
May I have what you're smoking?

Bombing in SA accomplishes virtually nothing cuz they SUCK.. Oh, it gimps your power, and it's hard as #@%@%# to recover it in SA unlike MoF >=P

Easiest lunatic my ass. I've cleared some lunatics now, and I can't even 1cc HARD SA >=(

ReimuA can shoot for full damage during the entire duration of her bomb.  And her damage is OP enough that even at 2.00 and sometimes 1.00 power she can still one-shot a lot of boss healthbars aside from Utsuho's and a few of Satori's.

And then there's the hilariously broken extend system which encourages you even more to bomb the fuck out of any boss attack you don't know how to do.  If you play stages 1-4 smartly/cautiously enough it's possible to have like 6-7 lives by the time you get to Orin.  Look up Veronica's infamous max lives replay if you'd like some hard evidence.


Oh, one more thing so I can pretend that I'm on topic.  That damn 'Bullets are cancelled from the boss outward when the card ends, so stray bullets can still kill you' mechanic from TH10 onward.  That shit seriously needs to DIE
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2010, 12:49:02 AM »
Oh, one more thing so I can pretend that I'm on topic.  That damn 'Bullets are cancelled from the boss outward when the card ends, so stray bullets can still kill you' mechanic from TH10 onward.  That shit seriously needs to DIE

Ahahaha. That always cracks me up.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2010, 12:52:53 AM »
If you play stages 1-4 smartly/cautiously enough it's possible to have like 6-7 lives by the time you get to Orin.  Look up Veronica's infamous max lives replay if you'd like some hard evidence.
If you're talking about who I think you are, did she post her replays as Veronica on replays.gensokyo.org?  The Youtube account that I believe belonged to her (FallenAngelVeronica) is closed now.
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2010, 01:05:25 AM »
Fallen's runs can be found here, I guess they are all that's left of her now. The SA life run in particular is here. There are actually several more lives available for collection in SA than are needed to max out the lives counter.

In fact, it's possible to die several times in stages 1-4 and still have 6-7 lives to use on stage five, as I demonstrate here.

Edit: I fixed the links.
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2010, 01:09:29 AM »
So which one of those specifically are the life runs? This is the last game in addition to UFO I can't 1CC on normal.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2010, 02:01:40 AM »
- Twisting patterns. Like Apollo 13.
- Bullets coming from both sides (Bone-Dry Monster, Green Storm, Worldly Attachment, Tele-Mesmerism, blah)
- Bullets coming from behind (Eternal Truth, Lunasa)
- DBDB, Sakuya. Because they are both of the above.
- LAZORS

In SA, bombing during a boss fight will benefit you.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2010, 09:22:40 AM »

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2010, 11:30:49 AM »
You still get the life shards.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2010, 04:47:57 PM »
Pressing X and charging forward in a dense cloud of bullets... before I realise I don't have any bombs in stock.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #69 on: February 28, 2010, 05:00:08 PM »
Playing without sufficient doping by means of caffeine and sugar.  :V

Oh, and overconfidence. Definitely overconfidence. Hence why I pretty much never die without at least 1 bomb in stock.
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2010, 05:08:36 PM »
lol I know the feeling. I often dont end up bombing even with vsync, I can make it! I can make it! I can - *flies into bullet by self* ZIIING

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2010, 08:26:36 PM »
I die mostly because random Steam messages pop-up and distract me while I try to time out Flying Fantastica.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2010, 01:43:10 AM »
When I stop predicting; in other words, when I stop reading the pattern or following the gaps due to a lapse in concentration: Sometimes I will accidentally fixate on a relatively small aspect, like a single bullet or gap, and fail to take into account everything else going on around me--usually I instantly realize my error and see how to get around it, but am not left with enough time or space to execute. Other times I'm so into that "zone" that I will mentally note and flag a single bullet as a threat. . .and move right into it, because by then I'm so used to just having my fingers follow what my eyes see.

This is the major cause of my deaths in UFO over the past few days. Not because I'm charging into the danmaku and hitting a bullet, but because I'm looking at the UFO floating around the screen and run into a bullet around my actual hitbox. ):

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2010, 02:03:17 AM »
I juest tried to beat PCB on Hard. Again. Most of my deaths were from me not reading properly, and the others were due to bullets spawning in my hit-box. I also died a few times due to long streams of fast bullets wanting me dead. Almost every death that happened, I had 2 or 3 bombs.

I use ReimuA whenever I play, and I have yet to seriously play on Easy or Normal. What is it I could improve on?

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2010, 02:29:40 AM »
bullets spawning in my hit-box
Oh, how many times this happened to me. And most of these... I die to Kogasa's non-spells. What the freak.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #75 on: March 01, 2010, 03:19:28 AM »
PCB, etc

I use ReimuA whenever I play, and I have yet to seriously play on Easy or Normal. What is it I could improve on?

Apart from the obligatory "bomb moar", maybe stop using ReimuA? ReimuB and SakuyaB cover the screen well enough while actually doing damage. Also, there's no shame in misreading stuff in PCB; tons of crisscrossing patterns from Chen onwards, after all. It's a bit of a one-trick pony, but it's a good trick.

Not sure where you can get bullets spawning on top of you, though, unless you're rushing to the PoC when you really, really shouldn't. Heck, apart from Scarlet Gensokyo, I don't remember anything else in the series where you're at risk of getting telefragged by a spawning bullet unless you're completely out of position.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2010, 03:27:55 AM »
Other than EoSD, I've had it happen on Eirin's second boss nonspell in IN.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2010, 03:47:09 AM »
ebarrett, the bullet spawning thing was on Yomou, I think it was on one of her Non-Spells. I was around the Lower-Middle portion of the screen, which is much higher up then I normally am. Hell, I am normally so close to the bottom of the screen the I usually can't move down at all :P

I use ReimuA cause shes the only I can actually use, cause I fail with Marisa and I want to be able to capture cards, thus I kinda need Homing. I don't use Sakuya cause her Focus defeats one of the 2 main purposes of using Focus, Moving SLOWER. I'm not running a marathon here xD ignore all that, I just used SakuyaA on Stage 1 Hard and wow. MoF has MarisaBroken but PCB has SakuyaAwesome xD

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2010, 03:52:40 AM »
I use ReimuA cause shes the only I can actually use, cause I fail with Marisa and I want to be able to capture cards, thus I kinda need Homing. I don't use Sakuya cause her Focus defeats one of the 2 main purposes of using Focus, Moving SLOWER. I'm not running a marathon here xD ignore all that, I just used SakuyaA on Stage 1 Hard and wow. MoF has MarisaBroken but PCB has SakuyaAwesome xD

NO!  SakuyaA is garbage.  Complete and utter garbage.  Pick ReimuB, MarisaA, or SakuyaB, and never look back.  You might not realize it yet since it seems like you're still learning the stage layouts and whatnot, but the forward-focus types are by far the best characters to use in PCB.  Just remember to shoot unfocused when you're safe to get your cherry up, get lots of borders, etc.

Also... play through the game on Easy and Normal a little bit to learn the stage layout and how the bullets are aimed at you.  It helps a lot, really. ;)

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2010, 04:03:30 AM »
I know the stages pretty decently, I have gone through them numerous times trying to get past Sister Prismriver. I might play on Fail and Normal to capture cards to unlock Phantasm though.

Why is it that SakuyaA is garbage? I see no flaws with her, while SakuyaB seems borderline useless to me. Marisa doesn't seem to good eitheer, but if you tell me how shes good I might use her.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #80 on: March 01, 2010, 04:23:32 AM »
I know the stages pretty decently, I have gone through them numerous times trying to get past Sister Prismriver. I might play on Fail and Normal to capture cards to unlock Phantasm though.

Why is it that SakuyaA is garbage? I see no flaws with her, while SakuyaB seems borderline useless to me. Marisa doesn't seem to good eitheer, but if you tell me how shes good I might use her.

Because she has extremely low damage compared to the aforementioned characters.  Also, homing isn't that useful in this game since most of the stage parts can be trivialized by killing enemies before they come on-screen with the high-damage characters, and because boss movement in PCB is based on your position relative to the boss (so it's not too hard to stay under them).  Also also, her cherry rate is bad, which means you get way less borders, meaning her four-bomb stock doesn't sound nearly as nice as it should be, and your score will end up sucking (if you happen to care).

SakuyaB, on the other hand, has just as much screen coverage(tap left-right unfocused, cover whole screen).  Her focus damage is way better, and she gets good cherry on top of the four bombs (they have crap damage, but they're stupidly long so it evens out).

Ugh, I keep getting this thread off-topic, we should take the discussion elsewhere if need be.  >_>

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #81 on: March 13, 2010, 01:42:15 AM »
pretty much all of them

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2010, 01:54:55 AM »
Why is it that SakuyaA is garbage?

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2010, 02:05:23 AM »
If that makes Sakuya garbage, so then it also makes Reimu garbage. And Marisa is in that game as well due to only having 2 bombs per life and the biggest hitbox.

At least you can easily bombspam your way through Merlin's opener, and Merlin's other nonspells are easy. Not so with Lunasa.