Author Topic: How do you die more frequently?  (Read 14932 times)

SupahVee1234

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How do you die more frequently?
« on: February 26, 2010, 08:17:34 PM »
  • By standing still and thinking a bullet will not hit you. (Misreading)
  • By dodging a bullet and hitting the next one. (Moving too much)
  • By trying to get point items.
  • Random retarded deaths.

For me, it's probably the second option, followed by the third one. I seriously rage when I move too much or too less. It makes me think I don't still understand how much the player moves after all this time playing Touhou.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 08:19:05 PM »
Clipdeath + random retarded deaths.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 08:21:56 PM »
By dodging a bullet and hitting the next one. (Moving too much)

This, my fingers just aren't good at moving tiny bits at a consistent rate. Makes bosses like Sanae a real bish.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 08:25:00 PM »
by thinking you are playing pcb instead of eosd

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 08:30:34 PM »
Misreadings. I always have problems figuring out the hitbox.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 08:31:44 PM »
by thinking you are playing pcb instead of eosd

"What do you meaaaaaaaaaan, the cherry borders don't work?"

Also: Everyone dies most frequently by chasing after UFOs. Don't even lie.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 08:36:02 PM »
"What do you meaaaaaaaaaan, the cherry borders don't work?"

Also: Everyone dies most frequently by chasing after UFOs. Don't even lie.

Yes, chasing ufos makes me QUIT THE EFFING GAME more frequently >=P.

As for PCB/EoSD. he's complaining about the bullet hitboxes.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 08:36:45 PM »
I almost never see what hits me.

When I do, it's usually immediately followed by me yelling "I PUSHED RIGHT" or whichever direction I was pushing, or "I BOMBED".

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 08:41:08 PM »
I almost never see what hits me.

When I do, it's usually immediately followed by me yelling "I PUSHED RIGHT" or whichever direction I was pushing, or "I BOMBED".

You know what's funny, is that I frequently get the "I BOMBED" feeling when I play Reimu in pretty much any Touhou except for IN. I rarely get to pull off a deathbomb when I KNOW I bombed before I got hit. Yet I play EoSD, which supposedly has virtually no deathbomb timer, and I CONSISTENTLY make every bomb a deathbomb somehow =\.
EoSD just likes me I guess, I don't know.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 08:43:20 PM »
The 2nd and forth ones, definitely. Disheartening because it sometimes makes me feel I not improving at all and should really drop the games.

Yet here I am still....

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 08:45:04 PM »
Random retaded deaths for me.
Like crashing into one of Nue's UFOs when I'm trying to avoid a bullet.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 09:47:34 PM »
bullet spawning inside your hitbox

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 09:49:38 PM »
Magic bullets coming out of nowhere.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 09:55:41 PM »
"What do you meaaaaaaaaaan, the cherry borders don't work?"

Also: Everyone dies most frequently by chasing after UFOs. Don't even lie.

Not me. :3 I never chase UFOs I know I can't catch.

But to answer the question, clipdeath and misreading waves makes up most of my deaths.
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 10:16:57 PM »
Every reason you could ever think of...
Yeah, i suck at Touhou.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2010, 10:17:20 PM »
Lots of boneheaded misreads and random stupid stuff. I do get some good deaths where I am simply overwhelmed by danmaku, though. I've learned in PoFV recently that if you get cornered by a swarm of bullets, yelling at the screen doesn't prevent you from getting hit.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2010, 10:57:09 PM »
When I do, it's usually immediately followed by me yelling "WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HITBOX ANYWAYS"
okay so I die mostly from
-being too lazy to memorize crap and running out of bombs
-unreasonably hard bullshit which requires memorization
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-HITBOX AAAGGHGHGAGHAGGHHHH

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2010, 11:02:40 PM »
Every reason you could ever think of...
Yeah, i suck at Touhou.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2010, 11:03:01 PM »
  • By dodging a bullet and hitting the next one. (Moving too much)
  • By trying to get point items.
Mostly the second, followed by the first.

It's not even that I actually care about my score, just the extends that come as a result since I'm a pretty bad player.  I always do better on this on the games that reward extends based on point items collected and not total score.  Unfortunately I always end up playing too aggressively for my skill level.  UFO is the worst about this for me.

The first is just that when playing normally I use my fingertips for movement and can't make sub-hitbox-sized adjustments.  I can do it with the pads of my fingers, but I think I'm just going to have to see I can manage to do so with my fingertips.  The problem is that my fingers are a bit long relative to the size of my hand (back in school when some of my friends were always surprised by it the total length of my hand was the same as people up to 1' taller than me...much innuendo ensued).
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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2010, 11:23:44 PM »
Quote
Random retarded deaths.

This lately so. very. much.

Normally though it's just the usual clipdeath and misread.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2010, 11:25:03 PM »
Well, I think I'd go for Moving too much...

One of the Reasons I kindda suck with Marisa in any game D:

BTW, can I ask you guys what's a clipdeath? 

Oh, and after you answer, you can throw stones on me or something for not knowing it |o/

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2010, 11:34:34 PM »
BTW, can I ask you guys what's a clipdeath? 

It's when you dodge something that you know you can dodge and have dodged, but the bullet's hitbox just barely touches your own, resulting in death. It "clips" you.

Clipdeaths are some of the most infuriating things in all of Touhou.

Oh, and after you answer, you can throw stones on me or something for not knowing it |o/

It's nothing to be ashamed off. I didn't know myself what it was for the longest time.  :V

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2010, 11:41:16 PM »
Charging straight into a bullet.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2010, 11:54:37 PM »
Misreading. All the damn time. I am a Touhou illiterate. Also, trying to death bomb when I already used them all up from panic bombing. :V

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2010, 12:04:30 AM »
I think that most of my deaths are from running into bullets I didn't even notice. Either that or simply panicking due to sensory overload, mostly during faster cards.

And if you count Shoot the Bullet, I have an embarrassingly big number of deaths caused by running towards a boss and trying to take a picture before the camera is fully charged. Not surprisingly, this doesn't end well most of the time.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2010, 12:10:38 AM »
It's when you dodge something that you know you can dodge and have dodged, but the bullet's hitbox just barely touches your own, resulting in death. It "clips" you.

Clipdeaths are some of the most infuriating things in all of Touhou.

Oh, like what happens with Metal Fatigue or Rice Porridge? D:

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2010, 12:41:05 AM »
Chasing after UFO's is not so much as chasing after my enemy, moving too much and ending in a dumb-kill. I believe I haven gotten a little better over the time, but I am still no match for hard or even lunatic, since normal is sometimes beyond me already.

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2010, 12:45:53 AM »
"Hey I can dodge this incoming pattern, I don't need to bomb-"
-dies-
"fdkfjaldsfjas"

Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2010, 12:55:56 AM »
"Hey I can dodge this incoming pattern, I don't need to bomb-"
-dies-
"fdkfjaldsfjas"
Pretty much this. especially since I tend to bomb when I would have got through without bombing so I think "Nah. Don't need to bomb" and then bam.

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Re: How do you die more frequently?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2010, 02:37:10 AM »
Pre-MoF, mostly by being overwhelmed, and lack of effort put into micromemorization.

From MoF onwards, clipdeaths, and lack of decent resource preplanning leading to not knowing if bombing this or that will cost me later, adding another layer of difficulty which doesn't exist in games where you can know exactly how many times you can bomb in a full run.

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