Touhou ANGRY RAGING SMASH SMASH Thread #6

[mew77]

After like 10+ continues on SA's Stage 3 Hard, I said "Screw it, lets try Normal" and I beat Stage's 1, 2 and 3 all on one set of lives, then got to Orin after about 20~ continues between Stage 4 and 5 combined. Mass progress, and mass F***ING HELL! Stage 4 is a Cluster F Bomb and Stage 5... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU~

Whats the trick to stage 4? I only got to and beat satori on sheer luck, the stage murders me.
Is Stage 5 supposed to be a "Hold your fire dim-wit!" stage or something?

Stage 5 is a holy crap time

I play on easy using MarisaA.

Satori is a pushover when using marisaA suddenly all her spell cards are easy as pie.

When I tried with ReimuA she literally tore me apart with danmaku.

Cluster F bomb??

Stage 4 is easier than Stage 3 in my opinion. Or maybe that's just the laser festival come to haunt me.

Let me think, I could give you my easy modo replay but i doubt that would help much. Yes I cannot survive on normal

[Ghaleon]

I do easy and it's not as dense as he puts it.

Hard, which is about as hard to me as Lunatic EoSD,PCB,and IN. I can only 1cc it on hard like half the time. I can 1cc hard on eosd and pcb with 1 starting life with little to no difficulty. The fact that sometimes I can't even reach kanako in mof on hard (sometimes) is a slap in the face!.

I just suck at MoF.

Is the jump in difficulty from hard->lunatic smaller than most other Touhou games at least? I'm seriously ashamed I'm not comfy with hard yet >=(

[mew77]

Don't know I play touhou on easy and normal. I've tried MoF stage 1 on hard and beat it only to get slaughtered in stage 2.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

EoSD Stage 3. Not even Patchouli is as hard as this. I don't get why I can't do this stage well. I do a lot better at the stage 4 and stage 5 stage sections. Each of the boss kicks my ass a bit though.

[Alice★f]

After like 10+ continues on SA's Stage 3 Hard, I said "Screw it, lets try Normal" and I beat Stage's 1, 2 and 3 all on one set of lives, then got to Orin after about 20~ continues between Stage 4 and 5 combined. Mass progress, and mass F***ING HELL! Stage 4 is a Cluster F Bomb and Stage 5... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU~

Whats the trick to stage 4? I only got to and beat satori on sheer luck, the stage murders me.
Is Stage 5 supposed to be a "Hold your fire dim-wit!" stage or something?

Here's my replay for the entire game. This solution works. It takes time, but it's very effective. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8227

If you want to see stage 6, make sure to start at stage 5 or earlier. The game messes up the replay otherwise. (Do not speed it up either)

Here's my replay for stage 4: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8163

Stage 5: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8164

I'm left handed. Sucks, doesn't it :V

  I'm left handed too. I have no problems with the default layout, though.
 

[Alice★f]

Boot up IN and captureTotal Purification.

WTF I can't unlock that

Spoiler:

yet...

And it's also a Last Word

Doesn't that mean I gotta beat Mokou?

[MysTeariousYukari]

GreenVirus, I watched the entire replay, Ctrling through the parts I can handle... I see how it messes up. It messed up to the degree that it showed you failing the game at Utsuho's 1st Spell Yet when I watch Stage 6 again, you beat it cleanly.

Oh, and your replay also unlocked the Stage 6 Theme and Nuclear Fusion for me in sound test, thanks!

[ebarrett]

After seeing that EoSD extra no-vertical wasn't that bad after all, I greatly regret not going for it back when I was in a no-vert spree. Then again, I'd have to have micromemorized Royal Flare - a card which I never bothered to capture, not even in regular runs.

[Formless God]

shift=focus is dumb, it hurts my thumb, tap/hold works much better.

You know, I could've perfected DOJ!Hibachi's final pattern if that game had Shift=Focus :V
ISO's superplay looked exactly like what I usually do in Touhou, switching rapidly between focus and unfocus.

On that note, I saw SP-9 (is this the convention you people use?). "Son, I am disappoint" would be the best way to describe this Scene. Really.

But but ... that scene is pretty and easy and fun and all :ohdear:

WTF I can't unlock that

Spoiler:

yet...

And it's also a Last Word

Doesn't that mean I gotta beat Mokou?

Uh, it's already unlocked in my score, so I'm not sure about that. It surely helps with attacks in which bullets get sucked toward the boss, though.
Except for DBDB.

[Helion]

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN PCB STAGE 4

[Bananamatic]

I could've perfected DOJ!Hibachi's final pattern if that game had Shift=Focus

You guys are really funny lately :V

[Formless God]

Okay ... I admit I boasted a little bit there, but what else about that line is funny ? :V

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I just had Jack the Ludo Bile throw a solid wall of bubbles at me.

[MysTeariousYukari]

Okay ... I admit I boasted a little bit there, but what else about that line is funny ? :V

Perfecting any of Hibachis patterns sounds crazy, and based off what you said, no Shift=Focus, is their some other button for Focus, or is their no Focus at all?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Basically, in Cave games, you tap shot for one shot and no focus and hold it for a stronger shot and focus.Some games have this, plus you can hold a different button for the normal shot.

[Bananamatic]

Basically, in Cave games, you tap shot for one shot and no focus and hold it for a stronger shot and focus.Some games have this, plus you can hold a different button for the normal shot.

Replace "cave" with "every single other shmup"

...well, if they have focused/unfocused shots. Some don't have focus :V

Okay ... I admit I boasted a little bit there, but what else about that line is funny ? :V

Can you even see the gaps in the final pattern through the laser, let alone pass through them? :V

[MysTeariousYukari]

I might have the wrong game, but it's something like this right? It has a giant bee-thing thats on fire at the very end, looks like Hibachi to me.

[Bananamatic]

Yes, that. Except that is supposed to be a programmed controller.

This is the video with human skills.
Look at the final pattern. Can you even see the gaps? :V

actually screw it we are going offtopic

[Angel on the Steps]

My latest run on SA Extra... Everything up to Genetics of the Subconcious: no death, one bomb on Rorschach, and two deaths on (what else) Genetics of the Subconscious (now 0/22). Still, Subterranean Rose should be doable with three lives and full power, right? Not if you're me

Has anyone else ever had that much trouble with that card? I know how it works and it doesn't look terribly hard, but I still manage to lose my rhythm every single time, almost going out of my way to get killed by those fiery rings...

[Formless God]

Perfecting any of Hibachis patterns sounds crazy, and based off what you said, no Shift=Focus, is their some other button for Focus, or is their no Focus at all?

Tapping shot / letting go of shot = unfocus, holding shot = focus. There is a brief delay when you switch between the two though. I prefer Touhou's insta-focus button.

Can you even see the gaps in the final pattern through the laser, let alone pass through them? :V

Uh, lasers where ? :V

Look at the final pattern. Can you even see the gaps? :V

I assume you meant "read the gaps", because of course I can see them. They are everywhere, just too damn fast to read :V
... and to move effectively at all. Which leads to that focus button issue :V. Surely some people don't need it, but I can't imagine myself doing that pattern without it.

Wait why are we talking about gaps now *gapped*

[Bananamatic]

Uh, lasers where ? :V

Your laser. Especially the hyper one, and even more when you use the shot :V

[Iryan]

Your laser. Especially the hyper one, and even more when you use the shot :V

You see, this is one of the main reasons why I dislike the majority of non-touhou shmups: Cool, hyper, awesometastic graphical effects which make everything look pretty but are extremely impeding, distracting and painful when you're trying to dodge the actual danmaku.

Aaaaaanyways, on topic:

It seems that, like many before me, I have found Orin to be quite the brick wall in my lunatic 1cc attempts. I can't pull off zombie fairies anymore and despite knowing how to do ghost wheels am not able to do them. The latter has probably to do with their pretty but distracting and bullet-obscuring nature, see also the top of the post, but whatever.
I probably should practice more...


Edit: I wrote "there" when I meant to write "their".
*face -> wall*

[MysTeariousYukari]

I think I'm going insane. I actually want to get tackled by Orin. She has never got close to me, cept for one card that has her moving all over the place. I'm actually wishing to get Orin Tackled, but I don't want to fly into her, I want her to slam into me out of nowhere. I'm actually getting angry by the fact that I haven't been tackled by her yet. :V

[Bananamatic]

You see, this is one of the main reasons why I dislike the majority of non-touhou shmups: Cool, hyper, awesometastic graphical effects which make everything look pretty but are extremely impeding, distracting and painful when you're trying to dodge the actual danmaku.

Actually, that's just Dodonpachi's laser and I don't really mind it.
It's just the way the hyper shot moves which makes it distracting.

Also, do you prefer blowing up large battleships or making fairies go pop? :V

Being able to deal with more background distractions also makes you a better player. Then the next time ZUN releases a strong but distracting shottype, you can just put on your cool face and laugh at the others :V

[Silent Harmony]

I think I'm going insane. I actually want to get tackled by Orin. She has never got close to me, cept for one card that has her moving all over the place. I'm actually wishing to get Orin Tackled, but I don't want to fly into her, I want her to slam into me out of nowhere. I'm actually getting angry by the fact that I haven't been tackled by her yet. :V

Reminds me of the time I PoC'd the first wave of S4 and got tackled by the first Orin Mid-boss appearance.

Lost the 1cc with about 33% left on the last attack (guesstimating)...

[Ghaleon]

shift-focus is far superior. I mean if you can't handle a 3rd button to a 2 button game, you should go see a doctor about replacing your missing fingers.

Auto-focus is so garbage it's not even funny. It simply lacks the potential of control that shift-focus offers. Imagine doing VoWG with auto-focus? It would blow so hard. It'd be nearly impossible to weave around to those gaps far away to cramming between the small gaps accurately, if not literally impossible at some badluck moments when you can't afford to wait that half-second for auto-focus to kick in.

I imagine Youmu's slow-motion spellcards would be virtual hell without shift-focus as well.

[Formless God]

Your laser. Especially the hyper one, and even more when you use the shot :V

Crap. That one obscures pretty much everything in front of my nose :V

Also, do you prefer blowing up large battleships or making fairies go pop? :V

Neither. I want to see and dodge the pretty danmaku, simple as that. Which is why Flower Dream Vine (no backgrounds, no luckshit, fuck yes) and Touhou and Mushihime are awesome BV . DDP and Crimzon Clover are special cases because despite having all those flashy backgrounds, their danmaku are still nicely done (not to mention some are even more fun to play than those in Touhou, like that final pattern up there).

[Krimmydoodle]

Imagine doing VoWG with auto-focus

*tries doing VoWG with auto-focus

Yeah, that sucked.  Didn't even clear the stage.  That moment's delay between focus switching really fucks you up.  I've actually never had a problem with it in Cave though (although experience there is quite limited compared to Touhou).

[Bananamatic]

Auto-focus is so garbage it's not even funny.

When you want to move faster, you stop holding and tap it instead. It works better than you might think.

[Naut]

When you want to move faster, you stop holding and tap it instead. It works better than you might think.

Except for that delay between the definition of a "tap" and the definition of "hold" to the game. Works well in games where the bullets are not very dense but quite fast (cave, blah blah), but in Touhou that shit doesn't fly. You need to focus the frame you want to focus when you're micrododging between extremely dense patterns, not ~5 frames later when the game's definition of "holding the shot button" kicks in.