Touhou ANGRY RAGING SMASH SMASH Thread #6

[LHCling]

Rewording Krim's a bit, and you get my weekly* RAEG moment.

<Awesome Accomplishment>

Why's this in the rage thread?  I ragequit after dying <Optional Number> to <Something Else> and / or <Something Piss Easy>.

Recent example: IN 4B No Focus with a Human Type for the Stage (perfect), plus timing out all of Marisa's non-spells up to a certain point. I initially die to "Stardust Reverie"... by misplacing it and moving up real close thinking it was the Spell Card that comes after. Later, I then proceed to die to the last non-spell for reasons I cannot fathom, and it was just Alt+F4 right there, on the spot. Followed by a table slam, a point at the monitor and (ry. I avoid slamming the keyboard for obvious reasons.

*_{Not really weekly, but it happens occasionally.}

[Garlyle]

I'm getting sick of SA Extra again D:

Why can I not do this?  I can make it to Release of the Id without a single death... then bam it's all downhill.

100 attempts at Nine Syllable Stabs -- make that 101 -- and I still haven't surpassed Rorscach in Danmaku more than once.

Sigh.

[Infy♫]

I just hate Yuka in LLS extra. WHY ARE ALL HER ATTACKS SO RAPING AND VIOLENT?

[Montblanc]

I would like to know something. -.p How come when I'm shotting a boss, their health seems to drop at a freakin' SNAIL'S PACE, but then after I end up getting hit and die, suddenly the remainder of their health drops rapidly and I'm left going "WHY".

Furthermore, compare instances where despite the Health dropping by 0.0000002% per second, you manage to hold on and on and on, and RIGHT when you're about to finish off that last smidgeon of health, you get hit and die or deathbomb, and there goes your Spell Capture.

[Byakuren Hijiri]

After a long time of Touhou abstinence, I tried myself on UFO once again... and at fail Kogasa mid on EASY.
Immediantly following commands: ESC->Up->Shot->Up->Shot
Next try: Alright, made it to Murasa without getting killed and a good score too - bam, death at Vortex Card. Bam - next death at Ghost Ship Harbor. Bam, second death on the same card. Alright, 2 lifes left <.< Stage 5, Nazrin comes up, no problem. I go further to Shou, and have only 1 live left - and get killed by her second non-spell.

I quit.

Next day, almost the same time, I say to myself: let's aim higher, so I start normal instead. Immediate death at Nazrin. New try - and I make it up to Shou's 3rd non-spell in a 1CC.

WTF?

[Udongein]

I was playing EoSD Extra for the first time in god knows how long, using ReimuA cause I felt like challenging myself. Stage portion was okay, bombed all of Patchy's cards including a death bomb on her first (which is :dragonforce: since I never death bomb in this game anymore) and get to Flan with 4 lives.

Died on Cranberry Trap, but I always do with ReimuA, so I kept going. Died on Maze of Love but captured basically everything else. Then I'm interrupted and have to pause on the non-spell before Catadioptric. Still confident upon returning, I unpause and prepare to kick Flan's ass.

I died three times within 30 seconds, twice on that nonspell and once more on Catadioptric.
...why.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Kogasa and Ichirin are completely unfair BS bosses.

Parasol Star Memories is complete crap. Clipdeath, impossible to dodge attacks at times.

Super-Water Repelling Bone Dry Monster. What the fuck is this? This isn't even possible most of the time. And by that, I mean every single time I go against it.

Ichirin's opener is terrible.

Cloud World Kraken Strike, let's have those damn fists block randomly falling bullets making them impossible to read.

Hook Combo through Heaven and Earth: It seems random whether I'm on the wrong side or not.

Last spell is crap too.


Oh, Shou is terrible too as well. Nonspells are impossible to read. Radiant Treasure Gun is crap due to the bullets used. Vajra is a pain in the ass. The final spell clips me.

And this is on top of unfair stages. This is supposed to be Hard mode. I've only gotten to stage 6 once with continues with ReimuB. I've made it to stage 5 without continuing once with MarisA.It's not like any of the shottypes actually make this any easier.

[SupahVee1234]

Oh god I agree so much. You can't capture shit in UFO, your best bet is to stock up bombs.

[theshirn]

What the HELL was that?

SWR Hard with Reimu.  First three rounds without losing, lost one life to Aya and one to Iku,  Then Tenshi...held on her first noncard with a sliver of life and canceled every shot perfectly and took off half a health bar.  First card was fine, second she got a lucky tall pillar right under me something like SIX TIMES IN A ROW.  then her second noncard, in which she once again perfectly canceled absolutely everything I did.  What the HELL?!

[Krimmydoodle]

[assorted rage]

Hook Combo through Heaven and Earth: It seems random whether I'm on the wrong side or not.

[more assorted rage]

I'm not going to argue with most of your post, as a lot of it is a combination of ridiculous read n' dodge and clipdeath rage, and I'm not going to stomp on your right to bitch about attacks that are read n' dodge and clipdeath rage. 

Hook Combo, however, on the large scale, isn't random at all.  The fists will always come from the same place, and their pattern will alternate every two waves (as for the bullets, I haven't investigated into whether they're static, aimed, or random, but that has nothing to do with being on the wrong side).  I started trying to word out an explanation, but really, just watch a replay and pay attention to how the pattern works (if you're one of those people who has a really hard time learning by replay, I can try explaining it later, but I suck at explaining things).

[Garlyle]

I've captured lots of stuff on UFO Hard.

Parasol Star Memories Hard isn't that bad.  Lunatic is some goddamn bullcrap, but on Hard I know for a fact I've got a really high capture rate on it.  I'm not sure what to advise to help on it though.
Super Water-Repelling Bone Dry Monster, however, is bullcrap.  Don't hestitate to bomb this one.

Cloud World Kraken Strike's whole POINT is to block off the view of falling bullets.  It's a tough one, bombing is advised.
Hook Combo through Heaven and Earth is actually static, except for the random bullet directions - once you learn the weird figure-eight-ish motion involved with it, it isn't too bad - but if it makes you feel safer, bomb!
...And Scolding Scorch is really easy.  Try to dodge it higher than lower, so you have room to retreat when it fires the fists at you - as opposed to trying to advance to dodge them.

[Kefit]

so today i was playing sa s5 luni for literaly the first time in 8 months

it was going pretty well i had captured everything and wasnt cheesing anything out but then ghost wheels was like "hahaha you forgot how 2 do me u suck u little bitch" and i died

i was :< for a bit but then i got revenge by timing out orins last card without bombing or dying

[LHCling]

Ichirin's opener is terrible.

What the hell. You can't say this; it's arguably one of the easiest things ever. All you do is stand underneath and move to the side a bit and voila, you've dodged it. Seriously. In case you can't tell from the really large exaggeration, it's pseudo-static. So is Mid-Boss!Ichirin. So is the second non-spell. So is the last non-spell. Or if you want to play it without knowing this, it's look at one laser color, look at the other, position yourself between it; voila a "dodge". And if you're clipping yourself on the bullets that comes afterward, you probably shouldn't be playing the day you run into them.

Oh and Kefit posted. Hi!

[ebarrett]

This is a normal run:
max_lives_after_lunatic_Shou.jpg

Suddenly I feel like playing Shoot the Baity.

:parsee:

[Montblanc]

Why Youmu? Why? Why do I breeze through PCB Stage 1-3 Hard, manage the Prismrivers with only 2 Bombs used, and then arrive at you only to somehow lose five lives? Why are you doing this to me?

And then, you reappear in Stage 6, and I somehow manage to fuck up on your Midboss Spell. And I'm left with nowhere near enough resources to handle Yuyuko.

WHY YOUMU.

[LHCling]

Suddenly I feel like playing Shoot the Baity.

:parsee:

At least I died on "Makai Butterfly". Which is what this post is about.

[Zengeku]

I was as flippant as to actually die twice on Shou which ZUN rewarded me with 1xx power basically crippling me for the rest of the fight. I think the main reason i never capture Vajra is because i never have power for it. This game would be much better if that power system didn't suck so much!

And no, i don't wanna hear you tell me to bomb more. Its freakin' practice and i want to be able to actually play against stuff without fearing death. You might argue that playing with 1xx power is better for experience but the only thing it does for me is making me frustrated and killing my enthusiasm.

Whenever i die in Touhou practice i usually think, "meh, whatever. Failed that one. Fair enough. Let's see how we can do on the next one."
In UFO i think "FUCK! Now i have even less power to deal with the next attacks!"

Simply not fair and it saddens me. I really want to love UFO like the other Touhou's which is the reason i give the game that many chances. But the game don't want me to love me. It hates me.

[SupahVee1234]

Oh my fucking god I fucking hate Touhou 08 Lunatic. Fuckfuckfuck. I HATE THIS GAME IT'S RUINING MY LIFE BAIDSNHSAOIPDB K>A?GWKG

[Jaimers]

Okay, what the hell happened here?

This was almost a MoF lunatic 1LC. :|

[Serela]

Okay, what the hell happened here?

This was almost a MoF lunatic 1LC. :|

At this rate, I wonder how long it will be before Jaimers' does a Perfect Clear of a Lunatic Story Mode.

...or at least Hard, which is actually remotely realistic.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Aya is the reason I'm not serious about trying it any time soon. If it happens, great, otherwise forget it. Plus there'd still be VoWG to ruin my day.

[Jaimers]

At this rate, I wonder how long it will be before Jaimers' does a Perfect Clear of a Lunatic Story Mode.

...or at least Hard, which is actually remotely realistic.

Haha, I don't think that will happen soon though, seeing as every Touhou game has at least one special attack that is complete bullshit and will make perfect runs extremely obnoxious. (PCB stage 6, Peerles Wind God, etc)

Hard mode though... >:3

EDIT:
I can't 1cc with SanaeB, but I just 1cc'd with SanaeA on my first try?
Seriously, what the fuck.

[Kefit]

At this rate, I wonder how long it will be before Jaimers' does a Perfect Clear of a Lunatic Story Mode.

...or at least Hard, which is actually remotely realistic.

Mof 1LC != anything close to a perfect run due to the outrageously abusable bomb system.

Haha, I don't think that will happen soon though, seeing as every Touhou game has at least one special attack that is complete bullshit and will make perfect runs extremely obnoxious. (PCB stage 6, Peerles Wind God, etc)

It's far less that one obnoxious attack and far more the endurance factor multiplied by the percentage of the time you actually get good looking single stage practice runs. Hell, the bullshit attacks are almost a relief because instead of going "MOTHINGFUCKING SHIT" when you die on them you can just go "heh no one will care that I died on that garbage."

[ふねん1]

It's far less that one obnoxious attack and far more the endurance factor multiplied by the percentage of the time you actually get good looking single stage practice runs. Hell, the bullshit attacks are almost a relief because instead of going "MOTHINGFUCKING SHIT" when you die on them you can just go "heh no one will care that I died on that garbage."

I suppose if people are going for a perfect clear/1LC, one could still be inclined to rage at dying on a bullshit attack. Others might not mind, but in the eyes of the player (depending on who you are), a 1-death run really doesn't feel the same. It may not be as big a challenge as consistency elsewhere, like you've described, but it's still there and can't be ignored.

[Bananamatic]

Hell, the bullshit attacks are almost a relief because instead of going "MOTHINGFUCKING SHIT" when you die on them you can just go "heh no one will care that I died on that garbage."

reminds me of when I blew a perfect utsuho fight on ten evil stars at the last second

let me rage again
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

dying on a bullshit attack sucks(spent a lot of time trying to perfect Nue, always died on grudge bow 4th phase), but what sucks even more is screwing up on something trivial and clearing that bullshit attack like nothing.

[Udongein]

FUCK.
QED, lost my last life as the invincibility from my second to last bomb wore off.

[Garlyle]

dying on a bullshit attack sucks(spent a lot of time trying to perfect Nue, always died on grudge bow 4th phase), but what sucks even more is screwing up on something trivial and clearing that bullshit attack like nothing.

Oh god
I had a UFO Hard run just recently where I captured all cards on stage 1 and 2 (Yes, I captured Water-Repelling Bull-Shit Monster) and then proceeded to lose a life on every damn card Ichirin had.

Sigh.

[COPIRIGHTO]

Those damn *smashes head UFO's *smashes head keep *smashes head changing *smashes head COLOR RIGHT WHEN I NEED IT

[Helion]

Those damn *smashes head UFO's *smashes head keep *smashes head changing *smashes head COLOR RIGHT WHEN I NEED IT

*approach red UFO*
*spawn red UFO*
*mid-boss appears*

OR

*approach red UFO*
*red UFO becomes blue UFO*
*get blue UFO*

[COPIRIGHTO]

*approach red UFO*
*spawn red UFO*
*mid-boss appears*

OR

*approach red UFO*
*red UFO becomes blue UFO*
*get blue UFO*

Actually both but mostly the second one.