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Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #210 on: February 18, 2010, 02:53:12 PM »
Played 2 more times.
I derped the bosses too much, died with bombs most of the time, game over with 5,4m.
It's a much better game once you get the hang of the scoring system.

EDIT: seen the scoreboards, is the japanese version considerably harder?

EDIT EDIT: what the hell
cleared 1-3 without dying
game over on st4
any advices for the horizontal scrolling?

doesn't help that kraken somehow magically used a different pattern than it usually does and I ended up ramming it
« Last Edit: February 18, 2010, 06:56:41 PM by Bananamatic »

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #211 on: February 18, 2010, 07:03:50 PM »
The Japanese version's difficulty boosts up significantly more when you start scoring well.
I should make a random stage 4 run and post it here to show you how I approach stage 4.

Also, Kraken's first form attacks depend on where its current position is, so you can memorize which attacks it'll spew out.

EDIT: Meanwhile, here's my Stage 1 video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPTsoW9SSkU
« Last Edit: February 18, 2010, 07:08:23 PM by SFKhoa »

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #212 on: February 18, 2010, 10:10:06 PM »
hahaha what the hell

this has to be the best week ever!

it was Carnaval here in Brazil so I took a trip somewhere and spent 7 days drinking and partying hard

Now that i come back I just read that EspGaluda 2 is region free and just preordered my copy

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #213 on: February 19, 2010, 12:37:13 AM »
Make sure you preordered the standard edition though.

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #214 on: February 19, 2010, 01:44:30 AM »
What advantages and disadvantages do Abnormal Reco and Normal Palm have compared to Normal Reco and Abnormal Palm anyway? I've only ever used Normal Reco and Abnormal Palm since they seem to be the standard good choices.

Messed a bit in training, and Reco is pretty weak either way, and Normal Palm seemed weak as well.

Matsuri

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #215 on: February 19, 2010, 01:53:38 AM »
Abnormal Reco is quick with C shot, and wtfstupidfast with A shot. Overall I like that shot type more, but it's pretty much unusable unless you're really really good, since you'll move too fast and fly right into a bullet.

As for Normal Palm, he doesn't really feel that much different compared to Abnormal. His damage output isn't as high, though.

Reco really isn't that weak, though, despite doing less damage than Palm. She compensates by having a much, much wider range, too.

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #216 on: February 19, 2010, 03:30:22 AM »
whoamg, I just learned how to record .inps properly with Psikyo games (well, S1999, but I bet it should work with the others).

Hellz YEAH!

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #217 on: February 19, 2010, 04:03:26 AM »
God, X-Multiply's Stage 6 boss is a pain. Not only does it look like a lotus seed pod, which freak me out, I can't find a safe way to damage it short of leaving my ship's lower tentacle dangling over its head.

ebarrett

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #218 on: February 19, 2010, 04:36:32 AM »
God, X-Multiply is a pain.
Fixed.

All week long and what do I have to show for it? A bunch of ragequits at the stage 2 boss, plus a couple of instaderps at the stage 3 boss.

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #219 on: February 19, 2010, 04:39:29 AM »
how the fuck do you even do the st2 beginning
either a psikyo laser to the face, walls or getting tackled point blank

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #220 on: February 19, 2010, 04:40:44 AM »
What's the stage 2 boss? I'm not sure if I got to it once or if that was a midboss.

Wait until you have to go under the thing, it's even worse.

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #221 on: February 19, 2010, 04:57:09 AM »
For Stage 2, make sure you have the red wave lasers. When it's time to go under the organic ship, park yourself in the very bottom-left corner and stay put. With your upper tentacle fully extended and the fire button held down, you'll be able to safely ride that corner until the end of the stage.

The boss is a floating head and can only be damaged by shooting at its eyes. The yellow homing lasers can be avoided by hanging back and staying at the very bottom of the screen, where you should be almost all of the time. The lasers will move diagonally down and off the screen. The only real danger is when the boss tries to ram you by moving all the way to the left. When this happens, simply move up; try to leave your lower tentacle's pod at eye-level with the boss so that you can get some extra damage in as it passes by underneath. When the boss is moving back to the right side of the screen, move your ship in front, eye-level, and collapse your tentacles in front or behind your ship to concentrate your shot and deal a lot of damage to the boss.

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #222 on: February 19, 2010, 04:59:38 AM »
I never got past the part where you go ABOVE the floating ship. Go figure.

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #223 on: February 19, 2010, 05:18:47 AM »
I never got past the part where you go ABOVE the floating ship. Go figure.

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=5087.msg257590#msg257590

my posts, they don't exist :(
D:
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anyways, if my .inp file can be of any use for people who're having troubles with the first stages (and may want to perhaps take a look into stages 5 and 6), I'd feel less worried that you people wouldn't receive help before the week ends..
or better yet, use these videos for reference (5 part 2-All video):
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm777418
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm781368
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm781614
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm782366
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm782597
(links taken from http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26471)
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

ebarrett

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #224 on: February 19, 2010, 05:27:26 AM »
lol safespot timeouts

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #225 on: February 19, 2010, 07:44:33 AM »
I give up. I'm done with X-Multiply. Those fucking drops in Stage 5 keep killing me.

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #226 on: February 19, 2010, 01:14:45 PM »
I never thought that danmaku shmup players could be so fucking whiny over difficulty

Seriously, buck the fuck up

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #227 on: February 19, 2010, 01:29:46 PM »
why can't I even reach st4 in progear now

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #228 on: February 19, 2010, 03:01:23 PM »
I never thought that danmaku shmup players could be so fucking whiny over difficulty

Seriously, buck the fuck up

You can't call me a danmaku shmup player, I grew up on Toaplan damnit

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Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #229 on: February 19, 2010, 03:42:59 PM »
3 deaths on st3
reached st4 boss
wtf

now
when should I release for gems and when should I manually pick them?
I've picked them manually in st4 and got to 6,4m this time.

btw every single death was because I was hugging the bottom and I got offscreened

oh and what does the ring counter actually do? multipliers at 10/20k and so on and nothing else?

EDIT: so it's an item counter not ring counter
w/e

reached st3 with 3m for the first time

I HATE STAGE 3
I hate that classic Dodonpachi wallshit with these red planes which charge in and create walls unless you stream, so I stream and end up getting trapped by the train or I get instaraped at the bottom

so basically
I DIED 4 TIMES ON STAGE 3
why
« Last Edit: February 19, 2010, 03:58:34 PM by Bananamatic »

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #230 on: February 19, 2010, 04:44:05 PM »
Yeah it's an item counter because the item is rings when you tap your shot and when you hold your shot it becomes gems.
Your multiplier actually starts at 20k making everything worth 2x its original value and so on. When you get a bomb while your bomb stock is already maxed out (3 bombs), you get 10k more added to your counter + an additional 2x multiplier added to your current as a result of "maximum bonus" (example: if you have 34241 gems and you have the 2x bonus from maxed bombs, then 3x multiplied by 2x = 6x, everything becomes 6x its original value). If you already have the maximum bonus, picking up another bomb icon will add another 20k to your item count (but multiplier stays the same).

Here's my stage 3 video (No audio): http://www.dwrkoa.net/ProgearS3kuso.avi

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #231 on: February 19, 2010, 05:01:03 PM »
I never thought that danmaku shmup players could be so fucking whiny over difficulty

Seriously, buck the fuck up

To be perfectly honest, the lack of savestates kills this game for me way more than anything else.  Thanks a lot Matsuri. :V

Matsuri

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #232 on: February 19, 2010, 05:03:55 PM »
I never said you couldn't use savestates for practice. I just meant no using them for scoring.

Seriously, I figured that would have been common sense :/

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #233 on: February 19, 2010, 06:11:53 PM »
what the hell
does every shmup hate me

progear, st2 boss
keeping an eye for the aimed/aimed around attack
I check my score for a split second
and he immediately fires the aimed shot

st2 another attempt
I dodge right through the wide waves
the very last bullet SOMEHOW scratches me

uh
could it be because I've never played horizontal shmups before?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2010, 06:16:55 PM by Bananamatic »

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #234 on: February 19, 2010, 06:35:27 PM »
I give up. I'm done with X-Multiply. Those fucking drops in Stage 5 keep killing me.

as a suggestion..
- aim for the blue weapon near the end of stage 4 (hold your fire a bit before the item carrier goes upwards, in order to prevent it from leaving the blue weapon inside the floor)
- with the blue weapon, try to eliminate the bullet-spewing baloons first, that will make you dodge less bullets and allow you to focus on eliminating the bubbles holding the crystals; not sure how it will go if you die on stage 5 (probably because you kept the red laser), because you'll be too slow to reach them before you're walled..

- if the drops you're referring to are those near the end of the stage, wait for them to fall, and fly above them before they reach the.. white pool thing..
neku: now for something important.
Translations.
How much time do you guys think it will take for HM to be translated? Besides everyone's story modes and the whole menus, there's also the fact that the way HM's programmed is different from all other games. I bet it'll take two months.

lusvik: I don't mind about playing HM in japanese. The language of punching other people is international.

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #235 on: February 19, 2010, 09:14:57 PM »
I'm BACK from my shmup hiatus! I've played DOJ a few times today before my aunt came over to visit and I loved every second of it. I can reach the final boss consistently now!
However.. my ps2 controller decided to go and break on me for absolutely no reason! No more DOJ until I get new controllers...

Btw, I just played DDP without restarting every time I die with bombs in stock. I won't break any high scores or anything, but I'm having fun!
« Last Edit: February 19, 2010, 10:02:07 PM by BoLaD »

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #236 on: February 19, 2010, 09:34:25 PM »
Reached st5 again, 8,3m score.
2 deaths were with 3 bombs, still dunno how to get the secret extend.

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #237 on: February 19, 2010, 10:42:51 PM »
To be perfectly honest, the lack of savestates kills this game for me way more than anything else.  Thanks a lot Matsuri. :V
I never said you couldn't use savestates for practice. I just meant no using them for scoring.

Seriously, I figured that would have been common sense :/

Wussies

Bananamatic

Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #238 on: February 19, 2010, 10:44:32 PM »
entire motk is babies

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Re: Warning!! A Huge Battleship "STG Thread mkIII" is approaching fast.
« Reply #239 on: February 19, 2010, 11:10:29 PM »
Goddamnit, guys. What's happened to all of you? I thought we were all supposed to be hopeless masochists! :/

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On another note, I got Ikaruga recently. It's... interesting.
Let's fight.