Also, you referring to Kilga suggesting the Alex v. Ciato fight as further justification for having it go is unusual since you're smart enough to not tout the "trust dead Townie's advice" even after Alex himself suggested it probably wasn't as good of an idea.
I wasn't pointing to Kilga's endorsement as a sign that we should take that strategy. I was directly responding to UK's accusation that holding to that strategy looked scummy. If Kilga thought that it was a good idea, and he was town, I don't see how my holding to that idea could possibly look scummy, even if you don't agree with it.
If Ciato flips Scum, my first impression is that I don't think Bard is Scum with her. Ciato's vote for Pesco's survival came really late and only brought it up to 5 versus 7 for Bardiche's survival. In essence, why would both Tom and possible ScumCiato both try to indirectly bus a ScumbuddyBard on Day 1? Optimistically, this would suggest Scum did not get a head on Day 1.
I don't follow your reasoning here. Bardiche was the favored one to live from the moment the challenge was made. The only reason he didn't have more votes at that time was that no one wanted to bring him to L-1 and give Pesco the opportunity to hammer. Placing a vote on Pesco so late is an empty gesture that could easily be just distancing oneself from a scumbuddy.
Kefit, there's also a gigantic hole in your reasoning:
If my analysis is correct, then in the worst case scenarios I am scum, Alex is scum, Bard is scum, and Tom is scum (and dead). None of us will ever win a challenge again. Yet only three heads will have been claimed (Pesco, Kilga, and Ciato). Thus, barring unknown roles and powers, the scum would only be able to win if either you let one person win multiple duels after this point, or there are more then five scum.
If all four of you were scum, then you wouldn't need to win anymore challenges to win the game. All you'd need to do would be to stage a few town v. town duels. You'd just need to get at least two scum to survive through LyLo (and one more scum for every person you named that's actually town). Scum would clean up the remaining heads, whether or not they're "neutralized." If we leave you all alive to LyLo, we're basically putting our faith in you to be town.
Are you people seeing why I favor having victorious players kill each other off, now? The only neutralized scum is either a dead one with no kills, or a live one with no kills.
Putting a crazy strategy out there to have some holes poked in it is one thing, but I have a really hard time believing that Kiro's reasoning would be so bad as to let this point pass as town, especially while simultaneously claiming that my plan is too dangerous. Whether or not he's scum with Kefit, I'm pegging Kiro as likely scum with a path to the endgame mapped out. Given a choice, I'd like to clean up the loose ends before dealing with him, but I should state for the record that if Kiro were to take on any of the unchallenged players right now, I'd be voting for his opponent.
Now, all that said, Ciato is still likely scum with a victory under her belt, and even if Kefit's scum, I doubt that he'd jeopardize himself by putting his life on the line with a challenge against a townie. There's the fact that he's said that he wants to live to LyLo regardless of Ciato's flip, but in the end I'm more comfortable erring on the side of the player with less kills.
##Vote: Kefit
