First off, the next person that Leeroy Jenkinses into a challenge without letting the rest of Town discuss and consult about it first gets vig'd by me IRL. Seriously, what the fuck. Anyway, on topic here:
It is basically guaranteed that Tom is Scum. There is no way I can justify his behaviour as Townie here: if he really was Town and concerned about Alex setting up lynches, why did he not consult Town first at all? Throw in a couple more points here that have been discussed to death above, and you get that his behaviour is strictly Anti-Town no matter how you look at it and only makes sense from a Scum standpoint.
Kilga, I'm fairly confident so far is Town. At least there's nothing that's been hinting me towards the opposite so far. I am vaguely curious why I am on the "I do not like:" tier: is it solely due to lack of posting?
What I don't like about Bard is, if his ability
really is so useless to the game and unimportant, why is he trying so hard to hide it and not simply reveal it? This bothers me. It could either mean he has acquired an actually
useful power for Town, in which case hiding it would perhaps be the sensical thing to do, or it's something that's likely Anti-Town. Now, hiding Pro-Town abilities is normally a good thing because lol Scum Nightkill - but that doesn't exist in this game: so again, why is he being so evasive? That + the rest of the things he's said today (i.e. a general lack of content overall) worry me a bit.
UK needs to stop being lazy and actually read through the game. Christ, if the rest of us can do it, why can't you?
Anyway, onto the real issue here: Alex vs. Ciato. I'm leaning Town on Alex at the moment. There are a couple things that are iffy here, the "lining up lynches" comment is a minor complaint, not so much for recommending a challenge for D2 on D1 but stating that it should be the challenge
regardless of Pesco's flipped alignment, but simultaneously I haven't had much of an issue with his reasoning, Tom looks horrible in general, his strat of voting for challenges is fairly Pro-Town at least in the first couple days (where Scum doesn't control near-majority of the voting block), and furthermore Tom's reaction doesn't make
sense assuming Alex is Scum: as a Scum gambit, ScumTom+TownKilga vs. ScumAlex+TownCiato doesn't make any more sense from a heads standpoint than ScumTom+TownCiato vs. ScumAlex+TownWhoever. The only way this would work in their favour is if both Alex and Ciato are Scum, then this gives an overall positive amount of heads. But then D3 one of the remaining Scum will die, and it's fairly certain D4 the other will. So overall, a net loss. Combined, this makes me think that Alex is probably Town in this matchup.
Now, Ciato, I will admit, I've found so far to be nigh-unreadable. D1 her posts so far have been on the Sodium/Kanako/NEETz scale of Fairly Useless(TM), which makes me want to suspect her as Scum out of principle, but this is obviously a bad idea, so yeah. D2 her one sole post seems to be decent, though there is some element of AoE. Now, matchup-wise. Let's assume TownAlex, and TownKilga (btw: matchup-wise, if Tom is Scum, it makes
no sense at all for him to take Scum-Kilga down with him, considering there has been literally no suspicion on Kilga so far. Could he have been thinking that maybe Kilga would be able to defend him from dying? Plausible, but still terrible. It makes far more sense for Tom to recruit a random Townie if he goes the suicidal route than one of his fellow Scum, especially one that nobody has suspected so far. This, combined with the general lack of complaints from Kilga, makes me near-100% confident that Kilga is actually Town). So, assuming TownCiato: TownAlex+Town? vs. ScumTom+TownCiato as opposed to TownAlex+TownCiato vs. ScumTom+Town? are in this case identical matchup-wise, and I cannot see Tom actually
expecting to win his Leeroy Jenkins attempt considering: A) What happened to Pesco D1, B) His D1 posting, C) His challenge reasoning, etc. I would really
love to see another post from Tom clearing up some of this, but at this point it really seems as if he's gone suicidal. Now, it doesn't make sense to do if Ciato is Town and Alex is Town, but if Alex is Town and Ciato is Scum, suddenly it makes sense: Tom saw Alex's proposal, panicked, and decided to go out with a bang while simultaneously attempting to confuse Town further and attempt to get rid of one of Alex or Kilga. So, leaning Scum on this one, though
potentially Town: ScumTom would have forced tomorrow to be an Alex vs. Ciato Town vs. Town fight, which would have gotten one of them lynched, and then D4 another Scum would go and clean up the other one of them for a head. This is actually distinctly plausible, and thus I'm not sure in the end. Future posts from Ciato would be very much appreciated as a result, i.e. damnit, post more (why yes, I
know I'm being hypocritical, shut up
).
The other option, of course, is that Tom is legitimately Town, who knee-jerk reacted to Alex's message, and decided to challenge him quickly. I could actually slightly believe this, IF it were not for the team mechanic: it is strictly Anti-Town for you to recruit someone without any consultation from the rest of Town if you are going to Leeroy Jenkins into a match, let alone the act of Leeroy Jenkinsing into a match
to begin with,
as has been discussed to death on Day Freaking One.Apart from that, don't like UK, Bard worries me a bit, and most of Chaore's posts make me wonder if he is writing in English or in Hieroglyphics. Seriously. I honestly don't think there's that much more to be discussed today barring a post from Tom, I will do another reread of today after this post, but I doubt I'll find anything particularly interesting. And yes, seconding Kilga, tomorrow's challenge basically must be Alex vs. Ciato here, anyone who Leeroy Jenkinses into something else needs to be ground into the pavement with extreme prejudice.
@Roukan: Hm. You bring up an interesting point. Ignoring the possibility of Kilga accidentally picking a Scum to fight whichever of Alex or Ciato, if we could narrow down their alignments somehow and then only off the one we consider to be Scum, then that is a net win for Town. At the same time, BOTH Alex and Ciato being Scum is a distinct possibility, albeit a minor one. Would want more input from the rest of Town on this.
