How would you react to men in Touhou

[Sen]

Upon first seeing it, I'd probably go "oh, it's a guy, cool."

Halfway through the first spellcard I'd suddenly and be like "WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S A GUY" and then game over because I would be so stunned.

[~Yukari Yakumo~]

.....Men? In Touhou? Seriously? Besides Rinnosuke? They'd all gang up on me and the other Youkai! D=

It may be interesting to add like a few guys, but....eh. ._.

[OkashiiKisei]

I had a sudden realization. Touhou cosplaying for males is pretty hard thanks to the 99% female cast, with the only relatively possible cosplay for males being Rinnosuke, whose outfit is so complicated I get cross-eyed from merely looking at it. If more males appear in the series, they will be more cosplay possibilities for males without looking like cross-dressers!

GENIUS!

[Iryan]

1.
If you're a dude and want to do touhou cosplay without looking like a crosdresser, you can always try Mokou. Or Wriggle. Or Orange. Or Shou. Or Unzan.

2.
A huge part of the guys who cosplay male characters end up looking like crossdressers anywa- *shot*

[Montblanc]

Crossplay is wholly acceptable when dealing with Touhou. So adding males to the cast doesn't really help the relevance of Touhou cosplay for males.

[Kinzo the Astro Curious]

To  OkashiiNaito

That's the second reason for the big brother character. With my idea of the fanbase as is he would be safely paired off with his little sister character (who would be stronger than him, there is precedent for that) thus leaving the rest of the characters safe from him.

Cirno's brother is not the strongest.  :V

[Tonepoet]

While a humanoid male character in Touhou would be an interesting for a change of pace, I'd have to seriously question the integrity of the series' setting after about a dozen games without ever really having one. If it wasn't executed perfectly, I'd probably default to disliking him just because the change would rip one of the more unique aspects away.

From the fandom in general, I imagine the utter disbelief in the community would be akin to that time in Azumanga Daioh where the class found out that Kimura had a wife. (A kind pretty one too at that.) It'd be total shell shock. Also, heaven forbid he be straight and fancy one of the already existent girls (including ones from the demo of his own game, if he's introduced in the later stages.) People would want him dead! XD

[OkashiiKisei]

While a humanoid male character in Touhou would be an interesting for a change of pace, I'd have to seriously question the integrity of the series' setting after about a dozen games without ever really having one. If it wasn't executed perfectly, I'd probably default to disliking him just because the change would rip one of the more unique aspects away.

From the fandom in general, I imagine the utter disbelief in the community would be akin to that time in Azumanga Daioh where the class found out that Kimura had a wife. (A kind pretty one too at that.) It'd be total shell shock. Also, heaven forbid he be straight and fancy one of the already existent girls (including ones from the demo of his own game, if he's introduced in the later stages.) People would want him dead! XD

So basicaly he'd be Kaito? Poor sod suffers all the punishment of the Vocaloid fandom...

[Tonepoet]

(Skims the wikipedia) You know, I was unaware that an in series character had a crush on Miku until now, since I'm not a Vocaloid fan per se but yeah, I'd presume it'd be more or less the same thing. The Touhou women do drive fans wild afterall. The Girl/Girl relationships work currently because they can either be perceived as unrealistically exaggerated, hot lesbian action or whatever other line of thought could be found fitting for the circumstance, dependent upon the individual fan's tastes. A guy however, would simply challenge whatever fantasies the fans have come up with, so a heterosexual male would simply spread Parsee's Syndrome amongst the fandom like it was the Bubonic Plague.

The only two ways I see a heterosexual male dodging the curtain-hatred is if he loved somebody the fans had absolutely no time to grow attached to or if he was simply a hound dog that never stood a chance to begin with, like Edgar of Final Fantasy VI or Brock from the Pokemon franchise. In the case of the latter option, the fans might actually even come to love him as a sympathetic character that they could live through vicariously: I kinda doubt it though.

[Bias Bus]

I'm almost afraid of the day ZUN brings forth a male character if only due to the way fandom will shit all over him once he debuts. I still don't understand why anyone is appealed by the way things are now (I've been trying to figure this out for a while now, but only found an answer in RAGE), but eh all I gotta say is; If I like it, fuck everyone else.

Still the idea of a male being Touhou's equivalent of Brock does sound like an amusing idea...

[dogseatfood]

First reaction:  :barf:

Second reaction:

[OkashiiKisei]

I'm almost afraid of the day ZUN brings forth a male character if only due to the way fandom will shit all over him once he debuts. I still don't understand why anyone is appealed by the way things are now (I've been trying to figure this out for a while now, but only found an answer in RAGE), but eh all I gotta say is; If I like it, fuck everyone else.

Still the idea of a male being Touhou's equivalent of Brock does sound like an amusing idea...

'Touhou Brock' is indeed a hilarious notion. Might actually fit.

But Erebrus, let me show you why most people are appealed by the current status of Touhou:
- Most Touhou fans are lonely (most, not all).
- Most Touhou fans are male (I repeat most, not all).
- The Touhou girls appeal to them (and their fetishes).
Because of these three factors males in Touhou would be frowned upon, since they mostly aren't sought after by the fandom. It would slightly break the fantasy.
More points:
- One of the few game series with an all female cast, and that is special in and of itself. Adding males would remove some of Touhou's unique shine.
- There are more than enough all male cast series in existance. An all-female game series is a slight breather from the norm.
- It's been like this from the very beginning of the series. Changing it would cause confusion and rage.
- It's ZUN's series, he decides whatever the hell happens to it, and as far as I see he's going to keep it this way.

It amazes me you can cope with the series like this even though you don't like the current set up of the cast. Quite contradictive, no?

[Chainsaw Guitar]

- One of the few game series with an all female cast, and that is special in and of itself. Adding males would remove some of Touhou's unique shine.

No it isn't, and no it wouldn't. There are LOTS of all girl games in Japan. Probably created to offset the manliness of the Hokuto no Ken fighter.

[IcedFairy]

- One of the few game series with an all female cast, and that is special in and of itself. Adding males would remove some of Touhou's unique shine.

Well, more correctly it's one of the few all girl games that doesn't fetishize the characters* in game.**  I think that's what I find interesting about it personally.

I wouldn't have a problem with seeing more male characters in print works.  In fact I was kind of surprised no male characters appeared in SSiB or any of the surrounding works.

* At least I don't think it does.  Maybe Zun art is throwing me off
**Fanworks on the other hand....

[OkashiiKisei]

No it isn't, and no it wouldn't. There are LOTS of all girl games in Japan. Probably created to offset the manliness of the Hokuto no Ken fighter.

Fine then, but you have to admit they aren't as important and influential as Touhou. I still believe that adding to many males would destroy Touhous charm. And like IcedFairy stated, it hasn't a complete fetishised and over-sexualised basis and characters.

[Coin Spire]

Men would be nice in Touhou games.

EDIT: But...how would ZUN draw them?

But it would be fun if they all just go in a neutral stance, and no further. Let the fans do the pairings in their fanfics.

[Ghaleon]

I'm almost afraid of the day ZUN brings forth a male character if only due to the way fandom will shit all over him once he debuts. I still don't understand why anyone is appealed by the way things are now (I've been trying to figure this out for a while now, but only found an answer in RAGE), but eh all I gotta say is; If I like it, fuck everyone else.

Still the idea of a male being Touhou's equivalent of Brock does sound like an amusing idea...

so basically, you think the current setup of touhou is dumb, and you want it to change so it fits your ideas of a better series? Don't you think the series should.. you know, cater to its fans than the people who dislike it? What the heck you a motk member for anyway if you don't know what is so great about Touhou? *boggle*

[arcanesign]

Since the thread is already four pages long I'm not sure if this has been said already, but...

Touhou Yaoi.

*cringe*

Although, like some other people mentioned, it's doable, like with Rinnosuke Morichika. Something with Youki Konpaku in it would be completely badass though.

[Bias Bus]

so basically, you think the current setup of touhou is dumb, and you want it to change so it fits your ideas of a better series? Don't you think the series should.. you know, cater to its fans than the people who dislike it? What the heck you a motk member for anyway if you don't know what is so great about Touhou? *boggle*

I didn't go and say that. Although change is good for something that's pretty much the same thing over and over, don't you think?

Maybe it's due to me losing touch with what's 'great' about Touhou, maybe it's because I'm a cholic bastard who doesn't know anything but RAGE BITCH KILL IT WITH FIRE, maybe I'm just bored, maybe it's all of the above?

However, I do know that it wasn't always like this and I used to be like 'everyone' else here, and loved Touhou to death. But, over time, I grew into the 'meh same ol' same ol' routine and kinda...fell out of it. When it comes to certain things, I don't like the same dish over and over again, it irritates and bores me and eventually leads to me leaving to go do something else.

If it's not gonna change and show me something interesting, then I'll find something else that will. Simple as that.

Also, there are folks here who don't mess around with Touhou, at least not as much as the average player does :V

It amazes me you can cope with the series like this even though you don't like the current set up of the cast. Quite contradictive, no?

It's fortunate that I'm a writer, otherwise I wouldn't have an outlet for the things that do please me in Touhou. Characters be damned, Gensokyo and the general mythos surrounding it interest me as a whole. I maybe displeased with whatever characters and blah blah blah, but I do want to see what else Gensokyo has to offer. What other regions are there to go to? Will we visit the undersea palace of Ryugu-jo anytime soon? Is there more beyond the Youkai Mountain? These questions are exactly why I 'cope' with what irks me about the series.

Sure the CAST isn't changing, but their world is...and with that I at least have something to look forward to when the next game arrives.

[Slaves]

Touhou Yaoi.

*cringe*

ever heard of brohou?

[VIVItheFujoshi]

Since the thread is already four pages long I'm not sure if this has been said already, but...

Touhou Yaoi.

*cringe*

Although, like some other people mentioned, it's doable, like with Rinnosuke Morichika. Something with Youki Konpaku in it would be completely badass though.

Ohh yes, Youki in a game.i want it so much...and he is a warrior, the danmaku play fits better in him than Rinnosuke, who is an intelectual and a kind of pacifist.(even if with training, have posibilities to be like Reimu (Abe no Seimei...Hanyou...))

And about the Touhou yaoi...nah, relax, because i think who will be very exclusive. I said this like fujoshi...the fangirl baits who i can found in Touhou are for a little group of fujoshis who likes "old time yaoi" or nanshoku, historical things, samurais,fundoshis and are more mature than the more young...and Touhou have a BIG male fandom, the girls are few and they are more normal or yuri-ish. Or angels, but in Japan, angels are seen more like girls than boys....(with exceptions...)
And personally, i don?t like how fangirls acts sometimes, like when hate female charas only because is loved for the guy who they likes pairing with other male chara...is silly XD

ever heard of brohou?

yes i wanted say that too XD (and Rinnosuko and Youkiko almost turn me les XD)

[Coin Spire]

Since the thread is already four pages long I'm not sure if this has been said already, but...

Touhou Yaoi.

*cringe*

It's best if it's taken only when it comes.

Although, like some other people mentioned, it's doable, like with Rinnosuke Morichika. Something with Youki Konpaku in it would be completely badass though.

And if it comes in a pair game like IN or SA, I'd love to see how the dialogue goes if Youki is paired with Yuyuko or Youmu.

Will he be a gung-ho master? A silent warrior? Or completely whack like Yukari?  :ohdear:

[Nobu]

I wish ZUN would just throw in one more male so I can finally make a Touhou all-male foursome hentai doujin barbershop quartet.


Genji just ain't cutting it. >_>;

[VIVItheFujoshi]

I wish ZUN would just throw in one more male so I can finally make a Touhou all-male foursome hentai doujin barbershop quartet.


Genji just ain't cutting it. >_>;

hey, with imagination you can make a orgy choral group with ten charas (turning some ones in gijinkas) + ZUN. XD and even can turn Beer in a gijinka male and then we have a par number again n_n

[Kuma]

and even can turn Beer in a gijinka male and then we have a par number again n_n

Hmmm~ That sounds like an idea~
Thank's for the inspiration, VIVI!

[Montblanc]

How very immature that people are afraid of Touhou yaoi. =/ Not EVERYONE who likes yaoi is a "Rampant Yaoi Fangirl", as they have come to be known.

Besides, if ZUN adds one or two males, I ask again, HOW is there concern that it will really impact the series in any significant way?

[Ghaleon]

How very immature that people are afraid of Touhou yaoi. =/ Not EVERYONE who likes yaoi is a "Rampant Yaoi Fangirl", as they have come to be known.

Besides, if ZUN adds one or two males, I ask again, HOW is there concern that it will really impact the series in any significant way?

How? Probably a large explosion followed by a mushroom cloud.

Seriously, nobody can tell you how. There are countless ways it could change the series significantly, just like it's possible it might not. The issue is that it creates lots of opportunities for bad changes to take place, and doesn't really offer anything good that an additional female character could probably give as well. I mean male characters in fictional stories and games are capable of contributing good things sure, but as I said before, it's a change, and most of us are perfectly happy with Touhou's current status.

To me, having nothing but females adds a certain goofy light-hearted charm to Touhou. I know men can be goofy, but the nature of Touhou's current goofiness isn't the same kind. I really can't explain it. It's possible Zun could create male characters that add to the goofy atmosphere in the same direction that it already goes, but I personally don't really see how it can be done. It's also possible that keeping it all-female keeps it from exiting niche status. I know that turns off alot of people form trying the game knowing that there are no males in the games. I doubt it, but maybe Zun likes keeping those people from trying it.

[OkashiiKisei]

How? Probably a large explosion followed by a mushroom cloud.

Seriously, nobody can tell you how. There are countless ways it could change the series significantly, just like it's possible it might not. The issue is that it creates lots of opportunities for bad changes to take place, and doesn't really offer anything good that an additional female character could probably give as well. I mean male characters in fictional stories and games are capable of contributing good things sure, but as I said before, it's a change, and most of us are perfectly happy with Touhou's current status.

To me, having nothing but females adds a certain goofy light-hearted charm to Touhou. I know men can be goofy, but the nature of Touhou's current goofiness isn't the same kind. I really can't explain it. It's possible Zun could create male characters that add to the goofy atmosphere in the same direction that it already goes, but I personally don't really see how it can be done. It's also possible that keeping it all-female keeps it from exiting niche status. I know that turns off alot of people form trying the game knowing that there are no males in the games. I doubt it, but maybe Zun likes keeping those people from trying it.

Well said, mate.

I don't think one extra male might cause a Touhou fandom implosion, but what I'm getting from many people on this thread is that they want to add a DOZEN new male characters at once.
THIS will cause a rage nuke.
THIS is what will upset the set up of the Touhou cast.
THIS is what I fear.
Just keep it at one new male, at most two. No more.

[Hello Purvis]

I'd rather Rinnosuke or Youki show up, rather than some new guy. Alternately: Endboss Genji.

[Jana]

Following that line of thinking, some backstory on Unzan (in a written work) would be cool too. Since a nyuudou is supposed to be an enlightened spirit, maybe he'd share some backstory with Myouren..?