How would you react to men in Touhou

[VIVItheFujoshi]

i believed who originally the no male thing was for turn the story of Touhou more joyful and less dramatic, more comedic. For that i think in a parallel game when think about males in Touhou.
And, after all, the magic tradition in japan is more femenine, but no means who can be restricted to only girls...well,we know all that anime about magical girls, but magical boys or males are really rare.

[VIVItheFujoshi]

i believed who originally the no male thing was for turn the story of Touhou more joyful and less dramatic, more comedic. For that i think in a parallel game when think about males in Touhou.
And, after all, the magic tradition in japan is more femenine, but no means who can be restricted to only girls...well,we know all that anime about magical girls, but magical boys or males are really rare.

And then Rinnosuke fights Unzan for NO REASON.

and it was glorious.

that was so epic who i forget delete my anterior post and i can?t delete it now XD (but wait,Rinnosuke is pasifist...i believe XD)

[Montblanc]

I for one would welcome the addition of a male in a Touhou game that ISN'T a non-humanoid entity.

But yeah, if one were added, they would probably be shota or bishounen.

[warpshadow]

I would welcome a male character, for a change at least. My ideal male character would be the older brother of another character in a new game for it would allow the other character to utter that oh so moe word "Oniichan".

[JT]

I would welcome a male character, for a change at least. My ideal male character would be the older brother of another character in a new game for it would allow the other character to utter that oh so moe word "Oniichan".

I like the cut of your jib, sir.

[Montblanc]

Yeeeeeeees~

Oniichan moe~

Also, it's worth noting that the first time I saw Shou, I though she was a boy.

[IcedFairy]

Hm...  Depends on how well it was done of course, but I have to state that the very heavy lean towards a female cast (especially in positions of power) is one of the unique points about the series.  Even if it was a well done change I think touhou would lose something.  So there would have to be quite the gain in return to make up for it.

Also I expect the fanwork quality to take a sharp hit after such an introduction, but I can't blame ZUN for that.  I will still rage however.

[Montblanc]

Making one or two bosses male wouldn't exactly upset the positions of power in Gensokyo, especially if they were like, Stage 4 and below. And even more especially considering no one could hope to surpass, say, Yukari, Yuka, Yuyuko, Suika, Flandre, Remilia, etc.

And there are already three male characters that have been shown, either in-game or in print work, and a few others that have been mentioned. Adding a couple more wouldn't upset the heavy cast lean toward females - after all, what's a little over a half dozen male characters compared against the 90+ female cast?

[IcedFairy]

I should perhaps clarify that I don't consider Unzan or Genji as really being "men."  Male, but not "men" which is a big difference.  (I don't even really consider Unzan a character, which may be unfair, but that's how I see it.)  I mean, if ZUN brought back the 5 magic stones or something similar and said it was Male I'd sort of shrug and move on.  But an actual man as a boss would feel off to me.

That leaves Rinnosuke, who's pure print works.

This is mostly an aesthetic sense on my part, so I can understand others not feeling the same.

[DarkOverord]

Didn't ZUN say the main reason why males don't do Danmaku fights is because their danmaku isn't beautiful enough or something on similar lines.

I wouldn't mind myself. So long as it still plays as Touhou and has awesome music, I'd have no problem.

[Montblanc]

Do not question Oniichan moe~

[Chainsaw Guitar]

U Mad.

[warpshadow]

You do not understand the ways of moe and in touhou the ways of moe are very strong.

[Nobu]

Moe is completely objective. The whole 'Oniichan' thing is definitely common.

[Bias Bus]

Didn't ZUN say the main reason why males don't do Danmaku fights is because their danmaku isn't beautiful enough or something on similar lines.

But can still perform Danmaku, am I right?

Going by that logic, we may see some soon enough, who's to say that there isn't be a male who has learned how to utilize the beauty of danmaku (hell that could probably even be his power; manipulation of beauty

Spoiler:

lol Midboss

).

[OkashiiKisei]

OkashiiNaito's post. Nuff said.

Have you read OkashiiNaito's post? So many double standards it's not even funny.

And OkashiiNaito's post, while certainly not sexist, does have double standards. A sort of pack mentality, I-am-the-alpha-male reflex reaction. (edit: scratch that, should've looked up what a "bishonen" is before writing)

WHAT THE-?!

What did I do?! I tried my best to not come over as sexist or intolerant! I didn't even know what double-standard meant before all of this (and I'm still not to sure even after searching it up)! And I really can't see where the pack mentality and alpha-male notions can be picked up from my post, let alone what you mean by it.
I'm just saying that if bishonen, shonen or shotaro appear it might become prime bait for slash fangirls! Not explicitly yaoi (I put that in between caps after all), but straight slash. Why do I fear this oh so much? Two words:

Character Derailment.

I've seen it sooooo many times, it isn't funny any more! Fics and comics will appear matchin up these new male characters, boosting there powers and responsibilities to impossible proportions, dwarving the Gensokyo Top! Then these uber shonen's will be paired up with our favorite Touhous, and our beloved girls will be turned into helpless, weaker versions of themselves that need to cling onto their new boyfriends to get anything right, unable to take action themselves anymore in favor of their prince, with him appearing as the big damn hero. Every character will eventully be butchered into yamato nadeshiko's!
Sure. it'll first start with characters who slightly fit this role, like Alice, Parsee and Patchy. But soon it'll grow out of control. Marisa. Reimu. Remi. Mokou. YUUKA! All these strong independant characters will all fall victims to this, becoming mere shadows of their great, former selves, in favor of some overrated prissy boy!!!
This must never happen...

Never.Never.Never.Never.Never!
NEVEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!

[Montblanc]

._. I think you worry too much and have too little faith in the Touhou Fanbase. There may be a few who do that, but on the whole, I seriously doubt most Touhou fans are going to do any such thing.

Honestly, I'm more inclined to believe that most fanworks will probably depict any male character being made fun of by the majority of the female cast.

U Mad.

Lolno.

[Iryan]

Then these uber shonen's will be paired up with our favorite Touhous, and our beloved girls will be turned into helpless, weaker versions of themselves that need to cling onto their new boyfriends to get anything right, unable to take action themselves anymore in favor of their prince, with him appearing as the big damn hero. Every character will eventully be butchered into yamato nadeshiko's!
Sure. it'll first start with characters who slightly fit this role, like Alice, Parsee and Patchy. But soon it'll grow out of control. Marisa. Reimu. Remi. Mokou. YUUKA! All these strong independant characters will all fall victims to this, becoming mere shadows of their great, former selves, in favor of some overrated prissy boy!!!
This must never happen...

Well, I'm not into fanfics for several reasons, but from what I've seen there is already enough character derailment happening. You don't need a straight pairing to turn one (or both) of the respective characters into something awful. I mean, just look at Alice.

[Garlyle]

Well, I'm not into fanfics for several reasons, but from what I've seen there is already enough character derailment happening. You don't need a straight pairing to turn one (or both) of the respective characters into something awful. I mean, just look at Alice.

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Beside that, Rinnosuke.  There's already bait for those who object to the "Everyone's gay in Gensokyo" bit (With the exception of Rinnosuke/Youki something too horrifying to mention), so it's not like it would change too much.

And trust me there'd still be tonnes of lesbian fanarts.

[warpshadow]

To  OkashiiNaito

That's the second reason for the big brother character. With my idea of the fanbase as is he would be safely paired off with his little sister character (who would be stronger than him, there is precedent for that) thus leaving the rest of the characters safe from him.

[VIVItheFujoshi]

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Beside that, Rinnosuke.  There's already bait for those who object to the "Everyone's gay in Gensokyo" bit (With the exception of Rinnosuke/Youki something too horrifying to mention), so it's not like it would change too much.

And trust me there'd still be tonnes of lesbian fanarts.

don?t worry, in the doujin-games fandom exist really few yaoi fangirls. An example: In the Nazu Universe (Tsukihime,Fate Stay Night) can found a good group of males, who have all the needed for bait fans (oh, Archer...<3)...but no have lots of fanarts and doujins paired them. Same with Touhou: even after when the first draw of an handsome Youki appeared...i continue waiting for a doujin about it, even an insinuation (i only see joke ones with Bara,Yaranaika or the combination of this two XD) and i must conform with few draws and my own. An you need really a big imagination and be a bit eerie for found fujoshi baits in Touhou. (like me...don?t worry, im a fujoshi specie in danger XD)

if would exist more "normal" males in Gensokyo (no animals,creatures or floating names XD) probably the straight pairings will be more interesting (because the harem-harem can be bored) and the stories in the doujins maybe will turn more complex, for the masculine factor...and we can have more variety of situations, rivalities, facts of life, new comedy plots etc. suddenly i turn curious...

[Ghaleon]

I find it funny how people think adding males would make things interesting because of the "pairing" potential. I mean Touhou is one of a kind, and we're all fans of this relatively niche phenominon. Why would changing it to become more like everything else make it MORE interesting. I just don't get it. But this is all a matter of taste. I just want to point out that the 3 males in Touhou do not qualify for my first post. 2 aren't humanoid for 1, those same two act like weapons/tools for their respective female, they never appear on their own, etc. Rinnosuke never even appears in a game.

Having a male added as a major character in an actual zun-made game would make a bigger male-oriented impact than those 3 combined I assure you. It would not be making the ratio 4:120ish from 3:120ish, it would be more like going from 0 to 1.

I expected some people would hate this change, some would tolerate it, and a few would like it, I totally didn't expect that so many want it, interesting.

[Montblanc]

I'm not saying I want it persay - like, oh, this MUST be in a future game. I'm just saying I would welcome it if it did happen. Because really, I can't imagine ZUN would add more than 2, at most, if any, so really, why would it be such a problem?

[Ghaleon]

I'm not saying I want it persay - like, oh, this MUST be in a future game. I'm just saying I would welcome it if it did happen. Because really, I can't imagine ZUN would add more than 2, at most, if any, so really, why would it be such a problem?

Well the exact result of such a change can only be guessed. You figure that the ratio of male to female is so small they'd hardly be noticed. I on the other hand think that the guy has made nothing but females like 100 times in a row as major characters in his games, and apparently we love them. Why change what's not broken? It might not break it maybe not, but it has a greater chance of breaking it than adding more females at this point you know?

Where is the line that says you need this many males in Touhou so that it loses its dominating femininity. To me, that line is between 0 and 1. I understand people may think that line exists between two other numbers, so no point arguing about that. Of course, like I said, Zun already suprised me by making Touhou really cool as it is, perhaps he could suprise me again by adding a male that I enjoy and feel adds to the world of Gensokyo, who knows...I just would rather that chance not be taken if I had any say in it.

[Bias Bus]

Sounds like Naito's my reverse clone.

WHAT THE-?!

What did I do?! I tried my best to not come over as sexist or intolerant! I didn't even know what double-standard meant before all of this (and I'm still not to sure even after searching it up)! And I really can't see where the pack mentality and alpha-male notions can be picked up from my post, let alone what you mean by it.
I'm just saying that if bishonen, shonen or shotaro appear it might become prime bait for slash fangirls! Not explicitly yaoi (I put that in between caps after all), but straight slash. Why do I fear this oh so much? Two words:

Character Derailment.

I've seen it sooooo many times, it isn't funny any more! Fics and comics will appear matchin up these new male characters, boosting there powers and responsibilities to impossible proportions, dwarving the Gensokyo Top! Then these uber shonen's will be paired up with our favorite Touhous, and our beloved girls will be turned into helpless, weaker versions of themselves that need to cling onto their new boyfriends to get anything right, unable to take action themselves anymore in favor of their prince, with him appearing as the big damn hero. Every character will eventully be butchered into yamato nadeshiko's!
Sure. it'll first start with characters who slightly fit this role, like Alice, Parsee and Patchy. But soon it'll grow out of control. Marisa. Reimu. Remi. Mokou. YUUKA! All these strong independant characters will all fall victims to this, becoming mere shadows of their great, former selves, in favor of some overrated prissy boy!!!
This must never happen...

Never.Never.Never.Never.Never!
NEVEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!

1- Character Derailment is pretty much abundant in Touhou as it is, even without considering the yuri shit and whatnot (in fact most of the derailment COMES from the yuri).

2 -Alice to Marisa in fanworks. Words cannot describe how fucked up they made Alice once shit started going down between them. If anything Alice gets hit with Character derailment the most in this matter. How do you turn a normally cold-natured and aloof person into a lovesick, clingy pile of misplaced affection? Seriously. And don't even get me STARTED on other pairings that make little to no sense...

Even if we do have males in the series I'm going (hate having) to admit that the yuri fanart won't stop in the least. If anything folks will IGNORE the 1 or 2 males like they do the ones we have now and continue plugging shit into their fantasy. But really, I'm seeing that not everything revolves around the potential for pairings and what not, I want to visualize a Gensokyo where we have pretty much the same atmosphere now, only with a balance of both genders.

Me? I'd not only welcome it, I'd say I'd want to see it sometime soon, just to see how it would look like. Is part of this due to my vehement hatred for yuri in this series? Ehh, perhaps it is, but a majority of this is directed to me wanting to 'see something new' for a change rather than 'Oh look another loli with insane powers *yawn*'.

[OkashiiKisei]

._. I think you worry too much and have too little faith in the Touhou Fanbase. There may be a few who do that, but on the whole, I seriously doubt most Touhou fans are going to do any such thing.

Honestly, I'm more inclined to believe that most fanworks will probably depict any male character being made fun of by the majority of the female cast.

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Beside that, Rinnosuke.  There's already bait for those who object to the "Everyone's gay in Gensokyo" bit (With the exception of Rinnosuke/Youki something too horrifying to mention), so it's not like it would change too much.

And trust me there'd still be tonnes of lesbian fanarts.

To  OkashiiNaito

That's the second reason for the big brother character. With my idea of the fanbase as is he would be safely paired off with his little sister character (who would be stronger than him, there is precedent for that) thus leaving the rest of the characters safe from him.

Perhaps, just perhaps your right. Alright, calm down Naito, blow off some steam. Repeat your mantra: Touhou isn't Naruto, Touhou isn't Bleach, Touhou isn't Death Note. It won't ever be ruined by something like this. It'll all end for the better...
It's just, while some of the current yuri pairings are absolute crack, in some way or another, you can almost always see it as funny or cute, because they're the Touhou Girls. I don't like yuri because of sexual excitement, but because the relationship between the characters can be become so adorable. That's why I usually don't want to see it beyond first base.
This cutesy theme just looks way harder to hold up if male characters pop up. If the males are relatively innocent and cute themselves maybe, just maybe, it'll be acceptable for me.
I just don't want to see respected Touhou characters degraded to nothingness because of male dominance. If I see something like that happen to the likes of the Old Maid Alliance I think I'd snap.

It'll be most fun if the comedy and cutesy basis was retained even if male characters entered the fray, like you said, Aeon. And I think that would be best retained with a big brother character, like shadow said. 'Cuz if Nanako and Sanji from Persona 4 are any indication, those relationships are just gosh darn adorable.

[Montblanc]

Sounds like Naito's my reverse clone.

1- Character Derailment is pretty much abundant in Touhou as it is, even without considering the yuri shit and whatnot (in fact most of the derailment COMES from the yuri).

2 -Alice to Marisa in fanworks. Words cannot describe how fucked up they made Alice once shit started going down between them. If anything Alice gets hit with Character derailment the most in this matter. How do you turn a normally cold-natured and aloof person into a lovesick, clingy pile of misplaced affection? Seriously. And don't even get me STARTED on other pairings that make little to no sense...

Even if we do have males in the series I'm going (hate having) to admit that the yuri fanart won't stop in the least. If anything folks will IGNORE the 1 or 2 males like they do the ones we have now and continue plugging shit into their fantasy. But really, I'm seeing that not everything revolves around the potential for pairings and what not, I want to visualize a Gensokyo where we have pretty much the same atmosphere now, only with a balance of both genders.

Me? I'd not only welcome it, I'd say I'd want to see it sometime soon, just to see how it would look like. Is part of this due to my vehement hatred for yuri in this series? Ehh, perhaps it is, but a majority of this is directed to me wanting to 'see something new' for a change rather than 'Oh look another loli with insane powers *yawn*'.

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[Kanako Yasaka]

I wouldn't care at all.
The characters just wouldn't be popular.

[Ramus]

Funny thing, I've been having random ideas of a reverse Gensokyo set in the west with a bunch of males and a token female.  Still, while the sheer amount of females does keep that little "hidden away strange land" feeling, it's a bit over done.

Not to mention the tons of males off screen that we never see.

[Xijiy]

I would like to see males in touhou just because (as everyone else has said) it'd be nice to get a little variety into the games. Though I would hate to see what the fandom does to the poor male character that gets introduced. Something tells me they wouldn't paint him in a kind light.