How would you react to men in Touhou

[Hello Purvis]

Really, Genjii would be the best endboss. He could steal all of the green leafy vegetables, and then get in a crotchety old man lecture when you meet him and everything.

[Montblanc]

=/ I haven;t gotten the vibe that people want several males at all.

Maybe it's just me, but I've just been assuming everyone here was talking about adding one or maybe two characters. I haven't seen a single, non-joking indication of adding an entire game-full of male characters.

And yeah, adding one new male character is not going to harm the fandom. Touhou can still remain a niche-status game with one more male character. If it can do that with Youki, Genji, Unzan, and Rinnosuke existing in the cast, then it can continue doing so with one new male.

[Lloyd Dunamis]

I'd rather Rinnosuke or Youki show up, rather than some new guy. Alternately: Endboss Genji.

^this. An echoing YES for Rinnosuke and/or Youki!

Case for new chara, as long as he's cute, I don't mind |3

[Sen]

I haven't seen a single, non-joking indication of adding an entire game-full of male characters.

I would actually find it completely hilarious if Touhou 13 had an all-male cast.

[Spidere]

On the topic:
I wouldn't mind seeing one actually. He would have to be the endbosses butler character though. And his abilities have to be based on strategy alone. Those are my requirements.

[VIVItheFujoshi]

On the topic:
I wouldn't mind seeing one actually. He would have to be the endbosses butler character though. And his abilities have to be based on strategy alone. Those are my requirements.

why im thinking in Sebastian the Black Butler!!?? XD (I WANT)

[Hello Purvis]

This will be the first humanoid male touhou boss. He will be a fifth boss.

[Spidere]

When I say "butler character" I don't mean butler. I mean a Youmu X Yuyuko type thing.

[Kilgamayan]

What's all this then? We already have Wriggle, Mokou, Shou and Nue.

[Hello Purvis]

They lack the mustache and manly brow that my example above provides. They, thus, do not count.

[Patorikku]

Wriggle is indeed questionable, Mokou has breasts, Shou has some bustiness and a dress of sorts, and Nue has a small dress with thigh highs and breasts. If anything, Murasa would be a better example than Shou and Nue, but overall, they don't count.

In the end, we need shotas. /thread

[Nobu]

This will be the first humanoid male touhou boss. He will be a fifth boss.

We can only hope, Purvis.



And I'm still convinced that Shou is a male.

[warpshadow]

Last night I came to a conclusion. Danmaku isn't really all that manly. When I thought of all the characters in Touhou that could be considered to be "badass" I realized that all or at least most of them fired something other than your standard shiny bullets be they a ton of knives, an anchor, fire, or a humungoid death laser.

[Spidere]

Last night I came to a conclusion. Danmaku isn't really all that manly. When I thought of all the characters in Touhou that could be considered to be "badass" I realized that all or at least most of them fired something other than your standard shiny bullets be they a ton of knives, an anchor, fire, or a humungoid death laser.

Soooo.....you still think they're badass? You're not making any sense here.

[Mounting Jaggis]

I think he said that Touhous that can be considered badass shoot things other than the standard bullet. Like Sakuya, Murasa, Unzan, Utsuho, etc.

[warpshadow]

I think he said that Touhous that can be considered badass shoot things other than the standard bullet. Like Sakuya, Murasa, Unzan, Utsuho, etc.

bingo.

[OkashiiKisei]

=/ I haven;t gotten the vibe that people want several males at all.

Maybe it's just me, but I've just been assuming everyone here was talking about adding one or maybe two characters. I haven't seen a single, non-joking indication of adding an entire game-full of male characters.

Take another good look. I spotted at least three people on this thread explicitly saying that they want a game with an entire boss cast of males. That's automatically SEVEN males, maybe eight if the game has an phantasm stage. That's a whole lot more than just one or two!

VIVI, N-Forza and SenSageUn all want an all-male cast for an upcoming game! I'm getting even slight vibes of this from Erebrus and Ramus!

[Hieda no Aya]

Re: danmaku not being manly, come to think of it, Perfect Memento did say that the main reason Spell Card duels tend to use danmaku is that it appeals to women and youkai. Maybe we just never see guys because they don't care for bullet hell, eh?

I'd take issue with treating "manly" as interchangable with "badass", though.

[Bias Bus]

Take another good look. I spotted at least three people on this thread explicitly saying that they want a game with an entire boss cast of males. That's automatically SEVEN males, maybe eight if the game has an phantasm stage. That's a whole lot more than just one or two!

VIVI, N-Forza and SenSageUn all want an all-male cast for an upcoming game! I'm getting even slight vibes of this from Erebrus and Ramus!

I honestly could care less on how many males show up; just as long as I have at least one that'll show up to give me a decent surprise for once. Although, I lean more into wanting one playable than having it as a boss, but I'm sure the fanbase would be all "Fuck that."

...It'sreally quite frustrating when you have such varying opinions and tastes compared to everyone else >_>

[OkashiiKisei]

Perhaps it might not be such a big deal if this new male character explicitly had the power to change gender at will. But then we wouldn't be sure if his/her original form is male or female.

And it might provide some new fandom jokes and doujin ideas.

Oh, wait, we already have Shingyoko.... An expy of him/her/it might still be possible though (atleast if you believe Byakuren, Remilia, Meiling and Kaguya are expies of respectively Shinki, Mai, Orange and Kotohime).

[ebarrett]

Here's hoping ZUN trolls his "fanbase" and puts a few male characters in the next games. With luck that'll alienate a good bunch of the creepier "fans". Even if it might bring some new, different weirdos.

[OkashiiKisei]

Here's hoping ZUN trolls his "fanbase" and puts a few male characters in the next games. With luck that'll alienate a good bunch of the creepier "fans". Even if it might bring some new, different weirdos.

I really don't see what's so creepy about the fanbase's liking to the current state of affairs.

[Toasty]

I really don't see what's so creepy about the fanbase's liking to the current state of affairs.

Last I checked, the creepy ones were a minority, and on 2ch, so yeah :|

Also, full support for toubrohou 13.

[Moerin]

Even if it might bring some new, different weirdos.

Nope, we're already here~

I for one would love to see a full male cast in Touhou 13, even if I know it's not going to happen.  Especially if they're all traps~ Ahem.  But it'd be refreshing to have something different for once.  Or hell, even just one or two males would be nice to see... I was actually a bit disappointed when I found out the the final boss of UFO was originally supposed to be Myouren.  It was like ZUN was too scared of doing something different this time around... But I digress~

[Esifex]

lol first page quote shows how far I got

...call me crazy, but I think that at some point the matter of men not being seen as combat-worthy will actually be a plot point in a future Touhou game...

I'm banking on that fact for my story - that men are just terrible at using danmaku. It'd kind of make sense, too, since the ones saving the world Gensokyo most of the time are a couple of teenage (if even that) girls.

[OkashiiKisei]

lol first page quote shows how far I got

I'm banking on that fact for my story - that men are just terrible at using danmaku. It'd kind of make sense, too, since the ones saving the world Gensokyo most of the time are a couple of teenage (if even that) girls.

Or maybe the males are having their own battles and adventures while the girls are busy. Perhaps while Reimu and friends were busy making sure the moon festival went as planned, a wizard from the Magic Forest was duking it out with Remilia's daddy. While Reimu faced Kanako and Suwako a warrior was wrestling with Zeus and Thor. While Marisa was in a Beam-O-War with Utsuho a ninja was taking down a steampunk mech. I could go on with this for quite some time.

This gives me another theory, one with a comparison that'll probably make several of the MotK thirst for my blood.
*equips armor blessed by every pantheon and Shinki, hides in a bunker and makes sure no one knows his whereabouts*
In the My Little Pony cartoons (Or So I Heard. I've never watched it myself and I know jack shit about it besides this, which I read in an article) the male ponies travel the world, while the females keep living in their cutesy land of fluff and magic. The males haven't been there for eons, and people have been theorising the ponies just survive by parthenogenesis until the males get back.

What if a same situation is going on in Gensokyo? But replace 'parthenogenesis' with 'having impossibly long life spans'. Male youkai and Gods are fighting or traveling outside of Gensokyo, relying on their own abilities to survive in this magic-less world. They probably have ulterior motives for this, like getting rid of the thing that is causing the decline of magic (Ancient Evil? Power hungry sorcerer organization? The Hebrew God?). Only every few hundred years do they get back home to rest, get some family time and perhaps give some lovin', ensuring a new generation of youkai. After that they set out on their quest again.
Hmmm... now I'm wondering if various Touhous are already married...

[Esifex]

Well, apparently Suwako is the first confirmed non-virgin in the game, whatwith Sanae being her granddaughter.

Although, being a Goddess, that all sort of loses its definition in the laws of physics and becomes incredibly vague and grainy around the edges.

[Lloyd Dunamis]

I'm banking on that fact for my story - that men are just terrible at using danmaku. It'd kind of make sense, too, since the ones saving the world Gensokyo most of the time are a couple of teenage (if even that) girls.

One probable reason is because men would have themselves as their hitbox, heheh xD *thought*

Also, a male navi or navi-like (referring to SA) could be nice, methinks :3
... oh wait, Ace Combat has them, also Touhou Soccer.

[IcedFairy]

now I'm wondering if various Touhous are already married...

The Watatsuki sisters are married to relatives of Eirin.  One of the two reasons I'm somewhat surprised that no males appeared in SSiB.  Though I imagine those are arranged marriages.

As for the rest of Gensoukyo?  I imagine some species of youkai have very different views on how romantic relationships work then humans.  Gods might have odd views as well.

My theory as to the gender imbalance is that it's just natural for youkai.  A lot of the humanoid youkai types are female in the old stories.  Especially ghosts and trickster spirits.  When the non humanoid types started assuming humanoid forms they gravitated towards female ones as well.  Toss in a lunar war causing a lot of casualties and the ratio of male to female youkai is probably pretty skewed outside of the Tengu Oni and Kappa populations. 

Youkai don't work off of biology, they work off of belief.  And if the populace believes women are more likely to be witches and ghosts, and that demons are more likely to assume female form you're going to end up with some odd demographical quirks.

Of course this is vastly overthinking it.  I'm not drunk enough to know the truth as ZUN sees it.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

The Watatsuki sisters are married to relatives of Eirin.  One of the two reasons I'm somewhat surprised that no males appeared in SSiB.  Though I imagine those are arranged marriages.

Yeah, I had a theory that marriages on the Moon are political/arranged/"for procreation," and that the children are mostly raised by "the system" until they reach the age at which Lunarians stop aging (which I've also theorized is "the point when the brain stops developing" at around 23). I just got the impression that familial bonds aren't particularly strong. But I digress ...

And I stand by my previous "What, Unzan doesn't count?"