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Carthrat:

--- Quote from: Alice ---This dream is hateful. Seriously. FWIW, I am ignoring any game-related PMs sent to me, so don't bother.
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just woke up after being awake until dawn, so not coherent. post stuffs later.
WHMZakeri:

--- Quote from: Edible ---
--- Quote from: Affinity ---But D2 Zakeri is bad.  First of all, he suddenly drops his
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Pants?

Zakeri, you rogue!
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Tee hee.

In any case, after going through my reread, these are my current suspects:

Carthrat - Votes Alice for missing, Ignores Alice's opinion of SP, and targets Edible after Edible keeps his vote on Affinity even after Affinity's claim. Carthrat avoids switching his vote to SP until it's deadline time. The main counterpoint to this of course is that a majority of his posts seem town-oriented, (413 - Attempts to Analyze my thought process, did nothing particularly scummy day one, etc.) and had the option of switching to Hammer Affinity (although he was adamant about not lynching the uncounterclaimed right away, so he might have been forced too.)

Umu - Has yet to post an analysis of some sort, Hammered SP instead of Affinity, but as above, that's a nulltell since Affinity had claimed.

All in All, My vote goes to Umu. This is really just scumhunting by process of elimination, to be honest. If everyone wants, I can post my reasoning for thinking everyone else is town, but ehh.

Vote: Umu
Carthrat:
I want to make a point about leaving umu alive, since he hasn't really been around much and that's semi-excusable given his circumstances, and it'd be better to give him a chance to talk about shit (or not talk even more, as the case may be.)

But with 2 scum dead and it being a 13 man game, I'd figure we're dealing with a lone scum, and what he says is rather less likely to be all that helpful for figuring who he is right now.

In any case, we have come full circle and the two straightforwardly scummiest people around for me are Rou and Serp. Neither of them seemed to have the most natural response to Pesco in day one (namely, Rou's overblown brawling with the guy and Serp's attempt to pull neutrality on that entire argument.)

Serp's switch to Sodium was late, and only at a time when it became clear that nobody was buying into an Affinity lynch. Ugly.

Meanwhile, Rou bought into the Affinity lynch himself based on Edible's case, promptly scooted through each mention they made of each other and highlighted them as if they were all awful, and stuck to him like glue the rest of the day. Looks like he decided to jump to an okay-looking case and throw in whatever random evidence he could find.

Thinking Rou more likely than Serp here. I keep looking at day one, thinking it's just too hysterical, and that town-Rou wouldn't let himself get suckered into a huge slapfight like that. I'll play this. ##Vote: Roukanken

All my day2 cases are pretty much dropped. It'd take some effort to convince me anyone other than umu, serp, and rou are worth lynching today.

umu's a flat line, since while I get why lynching him is a good idea on paper, he's cloaked and immune to scumdar detection. UK's own posts are just so much rambling, it's hard to get a fix.
FinnKaenbyou:

--- Quote from: Carth ---namely, Rou's overblown brawling with the guy
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When he's sitting there insulting me while he brushes off my case, I think I have a right to be more than slightly irritated.


--- Quote from: Carthrat on May 24, 2009, 10:04:46 AM ---Meanwhile, Rou bought into the Affinity lynch himself based on Edible's case, promptly scooted through each mention they made of each other and highlighted them as if they were all awful, and stuck to him like glue the rest of the day. Looks like he decided to jump to an okay-looking case and throw in whatever random evidence he could find.
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I'll repeat the statement I made earlier - when I have two people I suspect roughly equally, unless I get a reason to change my mind I choose one and run with it so I don't confuse myself and break down. In this case it was choosing between Serp, Zak and Affinity, and I tentatively cleared Zak for being just too insane and Serp for insisting on the triplynch on D1. Affinity's claim seemed far too convenient, especially when he tracked the dead guy.

So, here's what I have on everyone so far:
Edible: Held his vote on Pesco through all of D1. Unless he went for some insane bus he's most likely Town.
Zak: Urgh. In all honesty, nothing about Zak has been cleared up yet. The WIFOM from D1 is still there. Add today's post where he votes Umu for not posting (when surely he'll be replaced anyway if he doesn't show up?) and he's easily one of my biggest suspects for today.
u?: I can't analyse nothing, honestly. Say something, dammit.
Carth: Anyone else noted that Carth hasn't come up in discussion AT ALL?
Note how jumpy he was on D2 - he moved from Zak to Alice to Edible and only onto SP when the lynch was pretty much guaranteed.
The jump to Edible on one point seems awfully sudden, especially since said point was believing Affinity's claim. Later on he starts going on with 'hey even a counterclaim doesn't clear him, there could be two trackers', which is pretty useless analysis and seems to be trying too hard to argue the point. He even admitted later that he was 'taking a shot at Edible more than anything'.

--- Quote from: Carth ---Serp's switch to Sodium was late, and only at a time when it became clear that nobody was buying into an Affinity lynch. Ugly.
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This when your vote change was less than 90 seconds earlier, when it was clear the Edible case wasn't happening?
Rou: I dunno, I think he had Town's best intentions in mind with the D1 case on Pesco, and a lot of people agreed that the Affinity claim was a little too convenient.
Alice: Alice gets a LOT of credit for being on Sodium all of D2. Gonna take a lot to make me change my mind on this one.
Serp: In all honesty, his neutrality in the PesRou debate is something that'll hang with him, whatever his affiliation. Looking back without the tunnel vision, I'm seeing this quote:

--- Quote from: Serp ---Regarding myself, Roukanken said everything I could have on the matter.
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I should have picked up on this earlier. Using me as his defense doesn't look good. Still, the fact that he was fine with Pesco's lynch D1 when he could have insisted on giving the GF another day to live means he still has some credit in my book.

Obviously I want Umu to speak more, but Zak needs to go under suspicion again. Carth and Serp are both kind of eh, but I'm sick of trying to turn white into black by saying that claiming a town role is scummy and defending scum is a towntell.
Carthrat:
Jumpy, yes, 'cos I kept rethinking. If you want to quantify that with 'and that's scummy because' be my guest.

As for Serp, I'll acknowledge that yeah, he could have just felt obliged to make sure a lynch happens. But being on Affinity late after trackerclaim is bad enough (particularly after I pointed out the silliness of lynching him). I'm not sure if he just wasn't around offhand. In any case some insight from him into his lateday actions would be appreciated.

Although you have a point on the triplynch, Serp lynch is looking less cool all the time. (self-referential stuff is... weird.. uh... why would you include that. Please tell us why you voted Affinity in the first place, again.)

I'm not thinking Zakeri is scummy myself, owing to Sodium's vote on him and a general idea that his thought patterns are townish in nature. Please actually be suspicious of him instead of telling other people to be suspicious of him.

Although yes I'd like Zak to please tell us why you've eliminated everyone but uu, since process of elimination may well be the only intelligent way to catch him.
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