~Beyond the Border~ > Mystia's Stored Games
Yume Nikki Mafia - Over
Edible:
Son of a bitch.
Opera randomly decided to eat up all of my system resources, then locked up. So much for my awesome post of awesomeness.
Guess I'll summarize:
Late Day 2:
u?: "Hey guys, I think Affinity's town but we're not going to get a lynch on anyone else!"
u?: "Hey, a case on SP. ... So how about that Zakeri guy!"
I'm not going to vote him until I do a reread of Roukanken and Serpentarius, who are the only other two I'm even remotely worried about right now.
WHMZakeri:
The thing about Pesc/rou (Pes-Crow?) is that I don't think they would have gone to such extremes if they were both scum. The argument would have been toned down and looked more like a "Obligatory Pesco annoying Rou because that's what everyone expects" type of quarrel. Instead it blew to cover the first half of day one and lead to a case that - thanks to Rou's persistance and the multi-track lynching followed through to a scum lynch. Even if it was planned bussing, I think Rou would have been turned off by the multiple lynches that day. As it stands, in the unlikely event that Rou is Scum with pesco, then I'm willing to bet money that there's a post in the quickchat topic where Pesco says "You should totally lynch me, I'll act scummy and everything."
Serpentarius ... I'll admit, my reasoning for believing He's town is weak, but I don't think I would advocate his lynch for today. I'll have to do a reread of day one for him.
Not really and Edit: Ahh, I remember now. Thank god for notes. Looking back around where Pesco brought up a few points against Serp on 168, I checked the nearest vote count and on it where Mr. Alert and Carthrat. Mr. Alert, if I remember had it on a random vote, so possible newbbussing...
...and found Carthrat's vote: number 133. Reasons for voting Serp at that stage were because Serp tried to remain neutral, and because Serp was testing for reactions with a vote on Affinity for Beilos' quick unvote. Weird thing is SP, I think ocmmented on Carthrat's vote here...
...alright then, here it is, post 350
--- Quote ---His 133 is somewhat hypocritical from what I can tell:Telling Serp that he's just saying that Roukan and Pesco are stupid and not taking a stance while stating in the same post that he's saying that Roukan and Pesco are being overbearing... and he doesn't really take a stance.
--- End quote ---
notice at the end he finishes the post with "I gerenally think he's town" even though the rest of the analysis on Carthrat was null tells as far as I can tell.
This is beginning to sound like a case, isn't it?
anyway, noticing Carthrat's vote switching on the end of day two, he says he wants to vote Edible, but can't due to not enough time. Then there's Serpent's vote on SP saying he rather an Affinity lynch. This actually looks weird because Affinity was L-1 at the time. I think as Scum, Serpent could have gotten away with putting the vote on Affinity and then apologizing. Probably might have given SP the chance to save himself as well. Carthrat on the other hand wouldn't get away with it due to his stance on the matter in his argument with Edible.
Umu is still the wildcard, though, but I'm more willing to unvote him after what I've looked through in this post.
(Also, sorry Nietz. It was late, I knew I'd mess something up.)
Carthrat:
er um wasn't Serp *already voting* Affinity when he decided to give up the ghost and change to SP?
My gut reaction earlier in the thread was 'well he probably just jumped off to bus' but a lynch-conscious townie would do as much as well, I can't really take much from it now.. apart from, well, he was on Affinity in the first place, which is pretty bad all by itself.
Good point on Rou vs. Pesco, though. It's true that with the MULTI-TRACK LYNCHING!!! that kind of hardcore scum vs. scum fight would in fact not be too wise for scum, since it'd be very hard to avoid the lynch of one or the other party. ##Unvote, sure.
Grr. Edible and Alice seem pretty much clear for frontrunning SPlynch. SP's vote on Zak didn't seem like a bus, he had two people who weren't his scumbuddy in bad shape to vote then if he wanted (and after losing scum on day 1, happily forwarding a lynch for another one on day 2 is mildly suicidal.) And I don't think Rou is scummy anymore.
tl;dr Inexorably drawn closer to either an umulynch or a serplynch. Almost everyone else is looking much better.
Begging off voting for now, I'll try and toss something in before I go to bed.
FinnKaenbyou:
Hm. Looking at the walls that've been posted this seems to have suddenly turned into a Umu vs. Serp fight.
Initially I was seeing Umu as Town since I remembered UK as attacking Pesco back on D1, but at no point did she ever actually move her vote from Baity, which was weird.
Umu's actual posts have been much less solid:
There are several good points on Affinity BUT I think he's Town BUT I'm okay with lynching him
Hm, that's a pretty good case on SP...but how about the player we all discussed and discarded at the start of the day?
As for the wall, it reeks of Serp tunneling. Especially the 'all the signs' part, which is quite a jump to make when you're only HALFWAY THROUGH YOUR CASE.
--- Quote ---The paternalistic tone here reminds me somewhat of me-scum playing with Juls-scum.
--- End quote ---
Who the hell is Juls? And why do you assume that Serp plays scum the same way you play scum?
And another thing that pissed me off about Umu's wall:
--- Quote ---Are you my alt? Seriously.
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---You ARE my alt.
--- End quote ---
These are practically the only points Umu makes on Alice, and their main purpose seems to be to link the two together. Considering Alice is probably the closest thing we have to a confirmed Townie, this seems like an effort to earn free Town cred.
Edging towards a possible Umu lynch, but want to see the second half of his analysis first.
Carthrat:
I.. dunno, Rou. Some of the stuff you have against uu seems to be presentation shit. Jumping on a turn of phrase (re: 'all the signs') seems a bit off.
The bait-and-switch idea of 'that's a pretty good case on SP but WHAT ABOUT THAT GUY' was hardly compelling. Don't see scum pulling that with any hope of saving a buddy, there was just no effort there. It very much fits in with the idea of someone still catching up and wanting more to know about things than anything.
In short I can't really see anything you have there being particulary damning of uu. And yet I'm going to vote him anyway, since wrt day 1
-Serp was hyping a triplynch at a time when he could conceivably have helped pesco not, y'know, get lynched without much effort on his part
-As was said a bit earlier, Rou vs. Pesco might be overblown but that's a crazy dangerous thing for scum to do with so many lynches floating around on day 1
-Alice and Edible are virtually cleared, Zak just... looks pretty good. Depends if you think Sodium's vote was a bus or not in the end. I don't.
##Vote: uu
Where are our pseudo-confirmed and what do they think?