Revenge of Shooter Games Thread

[KOA]

btw I changed my avatar in honor of this thread, I hope you guys like it

OH MY FUCKING GOD IT'S COMING TO KILL ME

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Just tried Blue Wish Resurrection again. Made it to stage 4 without dying once, then I proceed to lose all my lives with bombs in stock on Heaven mode.

Ya, I suck at the game that much I have to play on what would be comparable to Easy Mode.

Also, how does scoring work in this? I get the final score extend on stage 4, and just like in Futari I can't get the secret extend.

[Azinth]

Just tried Blue Wish Resurrection again. Made it to stage 4 without dying once, then I proceed to lose all my lives with bombs in stock on Heaven mode.

Ya, I suck at the game that much I have to play on what would be comparable to Easy Mode.

Also, how does scoring work in this? I get the final score extend on stage 4, and just like in Futari I can't get the secret extend.

-Kill enemies at point-blank to collect gold cubes at maximum value
-Let bullet-cancelling enemies fill screen with bullets before killing them for maximum cube-age.  Ditto for boss phases
-Don't die

Getting the st.3 extend is just a matter of memorizing the stage, nothing more to it than that, I'm afraid.

I don't know how much advice I should give, though, since I'm really bad at BWR.  I don't know how Aisha finds the hitboxes in this game are forgiving, because I've always found the hit-detection to be kinda fucked up.  >_>

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Ya, all of those deaths were clipdeaths where I expected to live.

Ya, like I'm really going to point blank something. Letting enemies fill the screen may be a good suggestion though.

[Azinth]

Ya, all of those deaths were clipdeaths where I expected to live.

Ya, like I'm really going to point blank something. Letting enemies fill the screen may be a good suggestion though.

Well, you can save most of the point-blanking for when you've actually learned the stages' layout, though the first two stages should be easy enough to have plenty of scoring opportunities.  Scoring is all about long-term refinement after all, no need to rush things.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Is Hell Mode even possible to 1cc? Are there any known 1cc replays of it? Sure, maybe the first part, but that TLB.

Ya, I saw how to unlock the TLB in stage practice so I tried it. It's way too fast. Took me 10 credits to take it down.

I think I'll stick with Heaven and Original though.

[Azinth]

Is Hell Mode even possible to 1cc? Are there any known 1cc replays of it? Sure, maybe the first part, but that TLB.

Ya, I saw how to unlock the TLB in stage practice so I tried it. It's way too fast. Took me 10 credits to take it down.

I think I'll stick with Heaven and Original though.

No westerner has 1cced Hell as far as I know.  As for Japanese replays, I'm not too sure.  Does x.x even have a large fanbase among Japanese shmup players(like, compared to the following that ZUN has)?

And BWR's TLB is hard as balls for all the right reasons.  Such an awesome fight. <3

[Aisha]

I don't think ZUN has a large following for the right reasons...; but I'd guess it's bigger than x.x anyway.

I'm currently watching a no miss replay on Hell for BWR 1.02. It has auto-guard on, though. I'll upload it if it goes through the TLB.

[Azinth]

I don't think ZUN has a large following for the right reasons...; but I'd guess it's bigger than x.x anyway.

Eh, what I meant to ask was if there were superplayers on the level of guys like ISO or YASU who are known to play x.x's games regularly.  Since there are players like that competing in Touhou games, it's obvious that its gameplay is fairly well-respected, at least as far as doujins go.

[Aisha]

Oops sorry, I misread. I don't really know then. I don't know where to look to keep up with Japanese high scores for doujins and commercial games, apart from Royalflare, which is just for Touhou. moozooh always seems to be able to drop a few names, though.

Here is the no-miss replay of Hell I was watching. Clears the TLB (I love its music), but triggers autobomb a few times. Still impressive to watch, though.

[moozooh]

Guys at DJS have run quite a few x.x games.

[Aisha]

Guys at DJS have run quite a few x.x games.

Need an account to view. I've been trying to register there for a while now, but every time I try, I never receive the account activation email.

[Ghaleon]

Need an account to view. I've been trying to register there for a while now, but every time I try, I never receive the account activation email.

you probably did but did you check your spam filter folder?

[Aisha]

I leave the spam filter off for this particular account, but I've been double checking anyway.

[Heartbeam]

I had the same problem when trying to retrieve my password.  Tried a few times, checked over the message with the translator and dictionary.  Tried again with different email accounts.  Eventually guessed correctly but never received anything from them.

[Bananamatic]

esprade final boss second to last attack
how
it's fucking Scarlet Meister on crack

also stage 5-1

[Sapz]

esprade final boss second to last attack
how
it's fucking Scarlet Meister on crack

Unfocused dodging about halfway up the screen works well for me since it stops you getting clusterfucked by the smaller bullets at the bottom; bear in mind you can use the top-left and top-right corners if you need to IIRC (no idea if you can circle around her). As for 5-1... that rapes me sideways, so I have no idea. :V

[Bananamatic]

Unfocused dodging about halfway up the screen works well for me since it stops you getting clusterfucked by the smaller bullets at the bottom; bear in mind you can use the top-left and top-right corners if you need to IIRC (no idea if you can circle around her). As for 5-1... that rapes me sideways, so I have no idea. :V

last attempt
first miss on st4 boss(stupid blue walls)
second miss beginning of st5 for no reason
2 misses on the FUCKING PINK WALL TANK WITH MORE HP THAN THE FUCK I KNOW BUT IT LASTS FOR A FUCKING DECADE

I get past the defense system with 1 bomb and then I die at 5-2 beginning
GAME OVER YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH

7,1M, didn't even get the second extend

5-1, what the fuck
the amount of rape makes Pedobear look like a harmless deviant

I'll probably also need like 4 lives for the final boss
It's fucking HARD

[Matsuri]

Put those lasers to use!

[Bananamatic]

Which laser? I have the bomb on an unusual button so I'm a little slow :V

[Matsuri]

In ESP Ra.De. laser = bomb :V

What I do is set my regular shot to shift, my splattershot to Z, and my laserbomb to X. This way it's not too different from Touhou.

[Sapz]

Hell yes, just managed a 290-300 hit chain for DDP Stage 2. \o/ It'll need some practice, but it looks like that's my ticket into the second loop.

[Azinth]

Hell yes, just managed a 290-300 hit chain for DDP Stage 2. \o/ It'll need some practice, but it looks like that's my ticket into the second loop.

Just speaking from personal experience, don't worry too much about trying to chain stage 2 during full runs.  It's a really good way to make yourself completely hate DDP.  >_>

[Sapz]

Just speaking from personal experience, don't worry too much about trying to chain stage 2 during full runs.  It's a really good way to make yourself completely hate DDP.  >_>

I can imagine... I had enough of that with the much easier 180~ hit chain on Stage 1. <_< Still, I can't see any other feasible way of hitting the second loop, and a nice long chain would really help to boost my score, especially since I plan to keep my max bombs bonus until at least Stage 4. Having said that, I can very consistently do the Stage 1 chain now after a lot of practice... I imagine the Stage 2 one will follow, given enough time.

[Bananamatic]

I can imagine... I had enough of that with the much easier 180~ hit chain on Stage 1. <_< Still, I can't see any other feasible way of hitting the second loop, and a nice long chain would really help to boost my score, especially since I plan to keep my max bombs bonus until at least Stage 4. Having said that, I can very consistently do the Stage 1 chain now after a lot of practice... I imagine the Stage 2 one will follow, given enough time.

Stage 5 streaming. Perfect it. Instant loop.
That's how I've done it with C-S.

[Sapz]

Stage 5 streaming. Perfect it. Instant loop.
That's how I've done it with C-S.

C-S.

:V

[Bananamatic]

:V

hey, aren't you a much better shmuper than I am?
you should be able to simply stream and learn the timing for the huge things which wall you

[Sapz]

hey, aren't you a much better shmuper than I am?
you should be able to simply stream and learn the timing for the huge things which wall you

Maybe at Touhou, not so much for DDP. You beat Hibachi first, after all.

Anyway, though... I imagine it's a fair bit harder to chain in Stage 5 with A-L than with C-S. I think I could probably learn to do it if I practice the stage, but in an actual run I'm usually not trying to score or chain so much as trying to not die. Maybe it's easier than it looks once you learn it, though... I guess I'll have to give it some practice. :V

[Bananamatic]

Your score is already better and it took you less effort. You are also more consistent than I am at pretty much everything :V
Makes me want to make a savestate to do the streaming myself.

[Azinth]

I can imagine... I had enough of that with the much easier 180~ hit chain on Stage 1. <_< Still, I can't see any other feasible way of hitting the second loop, and a nice long chain would really help to boost my score, especially since I plan to keep my max bombs bonus until at least Stage 4. Having said that, I can very consistently do the Stage 1 chain now after a lot of practice... I imagine the Stage 2 one will follow, given enough time.

Chaining doesn't really start adding a lot to your score until you've gotten your max bomb bonus, which doesn't happen until the very end of stage 2.  It would probably be more useful to grind stages 4/5/6 and learn how to no-miss them consistently.  And it'd probably be more enjoyable too.

And don't worry so much about reaching the second loop, at least not if you actually want to get good at the game and not just savestate Hibachi.  I don't mean to sound offensive (you're probably way better at DDP than me by now), but what's the point of looping if you're still struggling with parts of the first round? :V