PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?

[RainfallYoshi]

I know. There's really nothing to say ZUN ever has any intentions of bringing any PC-98 characters back. It's foolish of us to think he ever would. Blah blah blah.

But this is the area for fun and crazy fandom topics so we can dream can't we?

Basically, what characters from the PC-98 days would you want to make a return? I'm sure there's a lot of them that would make for some cool stories in thew windows universe.

My list includes:

Rikako Asakura - Because a scientist that shuns magic running around in Gensokyo couldn't possibly cause any problems right?
Kana Anaberal - Because we don't have nearly enough ghost stories.

((Oh, and in before Mima. XD))

[nintendonut888]

ZUN said once that he has no objections to bringing back old characters, but they'd be really out of place. Kinda like if Rumia was suddenly a boss again. He brought back Alice and Yuka because he's obviously a fanboy of them (omg I'm going to make this random stage 3 boss an extra boss and omg youkai moe Seihou cameo ooooooh~).

But as a very big PC-98 fan who loves the characters deeply...

Meira, Chiyuri and Yumemi. That's it.

I always felt like Meira had more to say. After SoEW the whole subplot about the yin-yang orbs just disappeared, and personally I'd like to see it come back in a less non-sensical game. As for Chiyuri and Yumemi, they were the most highly developed characters in the games, and they deserve a reappearance.

As for the rest though, there's a reason I like PC-98 in a way I can't like Windows: Because all the characters are a blank slate. The vile claw of fanon hasn't shaped any but the most popular characters into whatever it pleases, so the character development is up to you. I love Gengetu with all my heart, but if she reappeared then she would no longer be my Gengetu; the fanon would leap on her and she'd get a whole legion of raving fanboys who insisted they always wanted her to come back from PC-98 and so forth. I'm satisfied with her being obscure enough so I can say I'm her fan with it feeling just a little special~

[RainfallYoshi]

I'm not sure why I forgot Yumemi and Chiyuri. Shame on me! Add them in with Rikako and form THE SCIENCE TEAM.

I seriously felt that the 3 of them have so much potential that didn't get used. Yumemi and Chiyuri definitely got some good coverage, but Rikako was just kind of thrown in there from left field. I really want to see some story behind her.

The same can be said for a lot of characters that appeared in PoDD and nowhere else. They just felt a little "thrown in" and they could really be interesting if the time was taken to give them stories.

[Solais]

I'm actually against Donut's view as I want to make all the PC-98 cast (and Rin) popular. I think they deserve more attention. I just have this kind of urge to make barely noticable/non-existent/forgotten people popular and loved. I would probably say Mima and Shinki, just because I know nothing about the others. Without meme's and ZUN's characterization, they barely "exist". And I don't like that.

Also, ZUN said that these characters won't be out of place, rather he can't think up ideas how he should bring them back, like because if they're back, people would like to ask them "where have you been?" and that's a nuisance, especially for all those characters. And ZUN likes to think up new characters instead of bringing them back.

So I just stay at my Expanded Universe view: PC-98 characters exist, they never left, just they weren't in the games. I mean, it's not like everyone in this world is always on TV, right?

[Sen]

inb4 BRING MIMA BACK

Although to be totally honest, I found most of the PC-98 characters pretty dull. Maybe it's the lack of English patches for the games; I'd probably like them a whole lot more if I knew what they were saying (yes I know there's wiki translations, go away).

[Suikama]

Orange

[Azinth]

If you want to see a PC-98 character, then go play a PC-98 game.  There, problem solved.

[KomeijiKoishi]

Mugetu and Gengetu

[TL777 ✌]

Ellen and Sokrates.

[Kilgamayan]

Everyone except for Mima and Shinki.

"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

Ellen and Sokrates.

Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry

[Matsuri]

Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry

Doesn't mean one couldn't hope for it! I loved Ellen, and I'd like to see her show up again, as unlikely as it is.

I'd also like to see Chiyuri and Yumemi again too.

[Gpop]

Yumemi and Chiyuri.

Just because they're awesome compared to the other PC-98 characters.

(Maybe Gengetsu/Mugetsu, but I like how they're LLS exclusive.)

[Zengar Zombolt]

I'd love if any of them came back, because I'm a sucker for everything old that returns. :V

[Grand Octopus]

I'd like to say Elly, but I think the market for incompetent gatekeepers is pretty much sown up already.

Other than her and the Rika/Sigma tag team, no-one else really stands out. I'd be a bit miffed if a new character slot was taken up by a returning PC98 to be honest.

[Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin]

Well, okay, I don't actually usually participate in this kind of thread. But I wouldn't mind hearing an official, modern remix of Strawberry Crisis, so I will grudgingly submit Yumemi.

[MaronaPossessed]

I want to see Mima...

[AlexX Unlimited]

Frankly, I don't think much, if any should return. They were great and all, but most weren't all that interesting (see: the minor bosses), and some have windows counterparts that are simply more interesting (such as Sakuya and Remilia compared to Yumeko and Shinki). While I admit Mima and Shinki were notable final bosses, I wouldn't miss them if they never came back.

He brought back Alice and Yuka because he's obviously a fanboy of them (omg I'm going to make this random stage 3 boss an extra boss and omg youkai moe Seihou cameo ooooooh~).

Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night. Yuka he sure seems to be a fan of though, since she seemed kinda random to pick for a seihou cameo over Reimu or Marisa... (even if they did already have their own cameos)

[shadowbringer]

As for the rest though, there's a reason I like PC-98 in a way I can't like Windows: Because all the characters are a blank slate. The vile claw of fanon hasn't shaped any but the most popular characters into whatever it pleases, so the character development is up to you. I love Gengetu with all my heart, but if she reappeared then she would no longer be my Gengetu; the fanon would leap on her and she'd get a whole legion of raving fanboys who insisted they always wanted her to come back from PC-98 and so forth. I'm satisfied with her being obscure enough so I can say I'm her fan with it feeling just a little special~

can't you just place canon over fanon.. like I do? :p  (though there's not as much canon material for PC-98 games compared to the Windows games.. this would probably make them more susceptible to fanon deviations, if they were as popular, since there would be little canon material -- writings, character profiles.. -- to "counter" fanon, or at least counterbalance it)

Also, I'm not getting the Mima hate, what if I really like her as a character, instead of following some sort of trend? (personally, she's my #1 favorite in this series)

On topic, though... I'd agree that bringing Mima back could demand some explanation as for why didn't she appear in former games (though Yuka did manage to come back once).
But damn, having Mima fight Marisa, after all this time, would be an unique event! (if done right, of course..)

[nintendonut888]

Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night.

Mind coming up for a reasoning for that? That's about as viable as saying the same about Yukari. Alice has been one of the most recurring characters in the series, and for that to even cross over from PC-98 to Windows suggests that ZUN has a liking for her.

can't you just place canon over fanon.. like I do?

I do, but:

there's not as much canon material for PC-98 games compared to the Windows games

PC-98's the exception. And it's really only my fanon; I have used many more PC-98 characters than Windows characters in my little story simply because I get to create their backstories myself.

[AlexX Unlimited]

Mind coming up for a reasoning for that? That's about as viable as saying the same about Yukari

I recall an interview where ZUN said he did that because Alice was "basically just a Youkai version of Marisa."

And its funny you mention Yukari, because he used the exact same reasoning for pairing her with Reimu: They were pretty similar in personality, so he paired them up.

[shadowbringer]

nintendonut888: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperishable_Night#Development

regarding fan fictions.. I don't feel comfortable writing fics (and I'm really not used to writing fanfics :p) if I feel that I could find potential flaws on them, due to canon possibly denying that story, and thus making it lose credibility. I've previously read about, for example, how people would make fanfics of characters from a series, and risk themselves to have their stuff invalidated by sequels (or prequels.. haven't thought of them here).
Perhaps I came to disbelieve fanon, by being warned (previously, once again) of how deceiving they can be (regarding to character backgrounds, for example), compared to the canon. If anyone has read the chinese The King of Fighters comics made by Andy Seto (who would later draw the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon comic adaptation), people could be led to think that the events and the characters' personalities would be believable as canon, without some advice.

[Letty Whiterock]

Everyone except for Mima and Shinki.

"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.

Edgy as fuck.

[Cadmas]

I want to see Elly back. Yuka is probably lonely.

[Toasty]

Sariel.

For being awesome.

[nintendonut888]

nintendonut888: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperishable_Night#Development

Welp.

[PostCrisisJ2]

Well, I'd only want Mima back to see how ZUN would characterize her now. There's also Rikako, though mostly because of a character that uses SCIENCE in a fantasy based world is intriguing, like Nitori. Plus, there's been some SCIENCE involved with the more recent games [SA and UNL]. And I like her jetpack and she's the only character that wears glasses aside from Rinnosuke.

...that's it really.

[Iryan]

Sariel.

For being awesome.

Indeed.

Let's see... She resides in Makai, which is the domain of a mighty demon goddess, and she is an angel of death, leaving the possible explanation that she is a high ranking member of her society. The latest game took placy partly in Makai and caused some upheaval there. If the trend of one incident being linked to the previous one continues, it wouldn't be surprising if we saw the return of important Makai residents in the future...

...I can dream, can't I?

[Moerin]

Sariel.

For being awesome.

Hmmm... I suppose it'd be nice to see him return... Also Konngara, because I want to find out what exactly an "Astral Knight" actually is (and his theme was pretty cool, too).

Hmmm... But the ones I'd really like to see return are Yumemi, Chiyuri and Ruukoto.  I could imagine the first two wanting to make a return trip to Gensokyo to do some more research, and Ruukoto kind of lives at the Hakurei Shrine, so...  Also nuclear robot maids are awesome~

[nintendonut888]

If Bomberman 64 TSA taught me anything, it's that an astral knight would logically be a knight hailing from the stars. The theme "Swordsman from a Distant Star" would naturally follow.