Author Topic: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now  (Read 20600 times)

RainfallYoshi

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2009, 12:12:11 PM »
Whyyyy?

3-6 is giving me so much rage right now. RAWR. It's not that I don't get how to do it, it's that I can't ever seem to.

ebarrett

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2009, 12:28:59 PM »
I watched a video, and it doesn't seem to do this. But when I try I die. But is ran's final spellcard's final "hitpoint" SUPPOSED to kill you if you're in charge focus mode? I mean, I don't stop moving right, but if I'm in charge focus mode while I'm moving, he WILL hit me. Which is a big problem because by that point the screen is cluttered so badly he HAS to die in seconds or else game over. Or is that just bad luck?

You probably already know this, but in case you don't: focus-charge as much as you can and "untap" to dodge unfocused for a split-second when she's about to ram you. If you don't ram a butterfly yourself, there should be just enough time to charge the camera quickly enough to get the last picture when you get cornered and about to get rammed with nowhere else to go.

Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2009, 09:59:45 PM »
>=(

Lol, I haven't done that for some time. I blame Ran's name, it's a boy's name damnit.

Anyway:

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You probably already know this, but in case you don't: focus-charge as much as you can and "untap" to dodge unfocused for a split-second when she's about to ram you. If you don't ram a butterfly yourself, there should be just enough time to charge the camera quickly enough to get the last picture when you get cornered and about to get rammed with nowhere else to go.

Yeah I know, except I find that doing that in rapid sucession doesn't speed up your charge time at all, in which case I'll get cornered before I can take that last shot. I think what Nintendonut said is the likely candidate. That I don't actually get nailed by ran, but by a butterfly spawning on top of me. sigh.

Alot of these cards are difficult and fun. But some are just ugh. I really hated sakuya's spellcard where you absolutely must be charging the whole time or else  you can't save yourself from her timestop circle-knives thingie. Sometimes, you just HAVE to let go of focus charge to get out of a spam of knives heading in your direction, which is just dumb.

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3-6 is giving me so much rage right now. RAWR. It's not that I don't get how to do it, it's that I can't ever seem to.

Well, there isn't exactly a "right" way to do it, so imma say it anyway just in case you haven't tried. But it's much much much easier if you are on one side and not in the middle. straight under one of the orbs is best IMO. Maybe inch closer to the boss slightly slowly as you near the end or else you'll find yourself unable to move up to him to take a shot later on due to lasers surrounding you the whole time (they do that less as you're more in the middle). And don't forget arrowhead bullets have deceptively small hitboxes.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 10:04:16 PM by Ghaleon »

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2009, 10:35:21 PM »
Alot of these cards are difficult and fun. But some are just ugh. I really hated sakuya's spellcard where you absolutely must be charging the whole time or else  you can't save yourself from her timestop circle-knives thingie. Sometimes, you just HAVE to let go of focus charge to get out of a spam of knives heading in your direction, which is just dumb.

Not as bad as Sakuya freezing time to move out of your picture frame unless you time it just right.
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Bananamatic

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 12:02:05 AM »
I've tried StB again.

I can't do 4-1.

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2009, 12:16:49 AM »
Just did 4-1 a second time. Almost ended up as a timeout as well. Took me a few tries to get it again even knowing what to do.

For this one, you're going to want to stay near the bottom right. Bottom left might work too, but I didn't try it.

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Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2009, 09:35:25 AM »
Pwnt ran's final spellcard finally, yeah was just unlucky with it after all. go figure.

I'm stuck on 9-2 now. only attempted 20 times or so, but haven't managed to get past 3 shots once. I think this is the point where my skill just isn't enough to go on. I really don't see myself beating that one, and it certainly doesn't look like a card with any "tricks" to it. gah. 9-2 the "brick wall" for anybody else?

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2009, 09:58:10 AM »
Did it just then. 62 Scenes get!

Spoiler:
Circle around, take photos. Charging is recommended in the top corner opposite to where you take the photo. Note that I have a tendency to score. So if you're aiming just for clears, you don't have to get "ridiculously" close like I do
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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2009, 12:14:27 PM »
Spoiler:
So if you're aiming just for clears, you don't have to get "ridiculously" close like I do
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Yep, that's me. My goal is to get clears. I reckon Aya would be disappointed in my lack of ambition to get really great photos, but I think I can live with that.

And congratulations!

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Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2009, 08:48:36 PM »
Did it just then. 62 Scenes get!

Spoiler:
Circle around, take photos. Charging is recommended in the top corner opposite to where you take the photo. Note that I have a tendency to score. So if you're aiming just for clears, you don't have to get "ridiculously" close like I do
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....Wow, thanks, I totally assumed those bullets just kinda flew all over. Didn't realize they still aimed AROUND your direction for the most part.  Your way makes it *soooo* much easier =)
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6131.

Watching your replay taught me a bit more than you said too. Kaguya moves towards your position all the time, you want to take pictures on the same side of the screen that she's currently favoring, and charge on the opposite. You did this, she was on the right side pretty much the whole time for you though. I didn't dodge so cleanly near the end, and ended up having her move from the right to the left, so I reversed my direction. I'm positive it saved my life at the end >=)

RainfallYoshi

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2009, 09:31:43 PM »
Well, there isn't exactly a "right" way to do it, so imma say it anyway just in case you haven't tried. But it's much much much easier if you are on one side and not in the middle. straight under one of the orbs is best IMO. Maybe inch closer to the boss slightly slowly as you near the end or else you'll find yourself unable to move up to him to take a shot later on due to lasers surrounding you the whole time (they do that less as you're more in the middle). And don't forget arrowhead bullets have deceptively small hitboxes.

Thanks a ton for that Ghaleon! That did the trick. <3

Now I'm stuck on basically everything in Scene 5 except 5-2. The game is getting freaking hard now. =(

Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2009, 09:46:07 PM »
Ok seriously. fux 9-6. it's not even hard. it just keeps killing me because I make stupid stupid STUPID mistakes.. like taking a picture when I'm nowhere near kaguya and I don't need to clear any bullets, or letting go of shift while micrododing (REAL SMART with Aya). AGH.

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2009, 10:24:51 PM »
Ok seriously. fux 9-6. it's not even hard.

Have you gotten to the last three pictures yet? >.>

Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2009, 10:37:16 PM »
Have you gotten to the last three pictures yet? >.>

Yeah, the very last one like 5 times. Blue bullets shoot out starting with the 2nd last one I think. I only have to dodge like 1 wave of each color between shots though (2 waves of the first color for the first few shots though.
Make that blue then purple, could have sworn I reached the last shot multiple times before. Oh well, still making stupid mistakes.

Like when I die, I don't go "omgwtf was I supposed to do about that" or "omg cheap".. but "WTF was I thinking!? *smacks face*"

Edit:
FFS I really can't get it. I don't know why, check out this epic fail
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6134
I mean seriously. I should have been able to do this so many times but I keep getting fails like THAT.

Update:
See, I told you it was easy. only took me 1171 attempts. only triple my worst card previous
« Last Edit: November 25, 2009, 05:07:27 AM by Ghaleon »

Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2009, 09:14:20 AM »
Ok, so well, 10-1 was insane hard until I figured out you circle around her up close. Then the last 2 shots are zomgwtf. But it's only 2 shots. So I just kept at it until I got lucky and beat it. Now I'm stuck at 10-2. And I'd really like some advice/opinions on this one. I'm not sure if advice can help me or not.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6145

There is simply no way my fingers can respond to those course changes that fast, are they supposed to? I don't think any amount of shooting game practice will EVER allow me to maneuver thru that as needed. am I just doing something wrong? Here's a replay, this is as far as I can get (4 shots)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=6145

If you don't want to watch, I basically figured out that if I stay in the exact center of the paths, I don't have to react to anything except the aimed shots at the end for the first 3 shots. For the 4th, I have to do the same thing only in a corner (which would work for the first 3 as well but that's besides the point) because the distance from the boss is further there. Unfortunately, after that, from what I can tell. You simply HAVE to move with the path.

I just can't see my hand-eye coordination ever being that fast and accurate. So I'd really like some input on this...Or is there some kinda trick that I'm not aware of?

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2009, 09:49:09 AM »
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Scene 10-2
90% luck, 10% "skill". The "skill" factor is just misdirecting the bullets properly. Replay that may or may not help demonstrate this.
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Ghaleon

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Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2009, 09:56:39 AM »
90% luck, 10% "skill". The "skill" factor is just misdirecting the bullets properly. Replay that may or may not help demonstrate this.

Wonderful...Thanks I guess. Looks like another 1000+ attempt stage for me >=P

ebarrett

Re: I've finally tried shoot the bullet just now
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2009, 12:44:10 AM »
90% luck, 10% "skill". The "skill" factor is just misdirecting the bullets properly. Replay that may or may not help demonstrate this.

There's also the cowardly way, where you go to the sides and take the pictures as soon as you can so you don't have to dodge the harder parts of the waves. Here's an old replay.