Pokeman thread

[Nine West]

In other news, is it bad that the main reason I'm happy about the upcoming Gold/Silver remakes is because this time I may have a shot at knocking Red out for the count*?

(*more Pokemon out + Abilities may give me a fighting chance against that monster; plus, my Silver version's battery died, so no chance of fighting him again that way. ;_;)

I still don't get how Red is hard. You fight him at the very end of the game, and after going through hell that is the Kanto region and fighting a second set of eight gym leaders, your team should be at a sufficient range of level to at least be on par with him. If that's not enough, you're already at Mt. Silver anyway. A few power leveling sessions there would be enough to help your team's level. Heck, if you can get the other version's mascot beforehand, that's already a Lv70 help that wouldn't be too hard to raise into the 80+ range. His team's level ranges from Lv73-81, which isn't that high, really. HG/SS actually boosted that up to Lv80-88, but that doesn't really matter anyway since ~10 levels difference isn't really that hard to overcome.

[Prody]

Emerald

Watch Kaizo Pokemon if you haven't.

[Verloren]

Rotom with the Secret Key is instantly boosted to OU status actually

I know. That's why I'm saying Keyless Rotom is good UU.

I still don't get how Red is hard. You fight him at the very end of the game, and after going through hell that is the Kanto region and fighting a second set of eight gym leaders, your team should be at a sufficient range of level to at least be on par with him. If that's not enough, you're already at Mt. Silver anyway. A few power leveling sessions there would be enough to help your team's level. Heck, if you can get the other version's mascot beforehand, that's already a Lv70 help that wouldn't be too hard to raise into the 80+ range. His team's level ranges from Lv73-81, which isn't that high, really. HG/SS actually boosted that up to Lv80-88, but that doesn't really matter anyway since ~10 levels difference isn't really that hard to overcome.

Well, not everyone powerlevels their pokemon while still in the main story, and so only has a few lv.80ish pokemon by then, if even.

IIRC, the top used moves on Shoddy included Stealth rock, earthquake and thunderbolt.

No duh. However, there are entire movesets that have keys with leech seed, paralysis support is one of the most common in the game, and confuse ray and protect are staples on many pokemon's movelists.

[trancehime]

Watch Kaizo Pokemon if you haven't.

Uh... I've played it

I don't include romhacks because many people aim to make romhacks PRECISELY because the games aren't hard enough for many players

[Rikter]

I decided to hatch 30 level 1 Rotoms for no real reason...

I have 26 now and I just need 3 more eggs.

[Bananamatic]

Am I the only one who fights Red at lv50?(and that's when I use 3 pokes.....was like 45 when I've had 6)

[Prody]

We'll see when HGSS comes out.

[Verloren]

HGSS is already out.

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...oh, you mean not playing the Japanese version on an emulator. Got it.

[Rikter]

Whee 30 Rotoms...

doesn't HGSS let me change forms on them without the key?

Also gonna make a ton of Eevee's now.

[Verloren]

Because you need the key to change forms, silly.

[Bananamatic]

Clair went down easily.

E4....no problems on Will and Koga, but Bruno.... :V

His Machamp isn't exactly friendly to my team(takes 3 Psychics to go down, can SE everyone), so it was just Tauros and Typhlosion vs Golem....Golem Fissured Tauros on second attempt, 54 HP left on Golem.

Flamethrower, miss. Goddamn Brightpowder.
Rock Slide, 80% dmg.
Flamethrower, 4 HP left.
Rock Slide, game over.

[Generalguy]

The AI in any Pokemon game is smashed to bits if you have overlevels or having something like a Crobat by the 7th gym >_>;

Lolwut? I don't see how a Crobat is hard to get. You only need to be level 22. Happinness is ridiculously easy to max if you're always using the same Pokemon.

Please tell me how I was supposed to make it "easy". I had to reset the game over 30 times, because I had nobody able to resist a Psychic attack. If you know something that could make the Elite Four not be total hell (like a useful Pokemon), please say it.

[Verloren]

Giratina.

[M. Burusu]

If you know something that could make the Elite Four not be total hell (like a useful Pokemon), please say it.

If this is in fact D/P/Pt we're talking, My money's on Staraptor.
 
 1) Flying, so it wrecks Aaron.
 
 2) Flying (again), so it wrecks Bertha's Ground-types (and that goddam QUAGSIRE if you're playing D/P oh god I hated that thing), and if you're playing Platinum and she pulls out those surprise Rock-Types, it gets Close Combat upon evolution @ Lv34 so you can mess them up like that.
 
 3) Cynthia and her Lucario and Roserade (looking at my Platinum Pokedex brick here), both of which have problems dealing with a Flying-type that can use a high-power Fighting-type move. (In Lucario's case, it's the Fighting move that does it offensively-speaking.)
 
 As icing on the cake we have Staraptor's lovely ATK stat and Intimidate, which takes some of the edge off of the physical hitters in the Elite Four, not to mention the fact that you can easily capture a Starly in the early areas and level it up as you go along, or power-level it with an EXP Share at someplace like Victory Road or something.

[Nine West]

Well, not everyone powerlevels their pokemon while still in the main story, and so only has a few lv.80ish pokemon by then, if even.

Even then you can spend some time at Mt. Silver to power level if you really want to beat him anyway. :V

Also, apparently Heart Gold gets Latios; Nintendo you ass.

[Rikter]

Even then you can spend some time at Mt. Silver to power level if you really want to beat him anyway. :V

Also, apparently Heart Gold gets Latios; Nintendo you ass.

Which one does Heart Gold get Groudon or Kyogre? It likely won't change my decision any but from the looks of it I'm likely gonna buy Heart gold just for Nostalgia value.

Also I played my 8-year old Cousin in Pokemon today. I took out his level 70-ish Torttera with a level 38 Snover... He was amazed...

[Bananamatic]

Gold gets Kyogre and Silver gets Groudon IIRC

[Nemo★Ma]

Uh... I've played it

I don't include romhacks because many people aim to make romhacks PRECISELY because the games aren't hard enough for many players

Can you share that IPS file?

[Nine West]

Heart Gold wins because Ho-Oh's Theme is clearly superior to Lugia's.

[M. Burusu]

Out of curiosity, a question for you all: what is the one Pokemon that you hate fighting the most when a RL person is using it?

[Generalguy]

If this is in fact D/P/Pt we're talking, My money's on Staraptor.

I was talking about Emerald x_x And the max level I can be is 34 so I wouldn't be able to use a Staraptor anyway.

[Nine West]

And the max level I can be is 34 so I wouldn't be able to use a Staraptor anyway.

Cool story: Staravia evolves at Lv34. :V

[M. Burusu]

I was talking about Emerald x_x And the max level I can be is 34 so I wouldn't be able to use a Staraptor anyway.

Lv34 VS Elite Four? 0_0

Talk about Hard Mode.

Well, I guess it's time to look back into the past . . . *pages forward to the National Dex and starts scouring* Do you have access to any 3rd Gen games besides Emerald?

[Generalguy]

Lv34 VS Elite Four? 0_0

Talk about Hard Mode.

Well, I guess it's time to look back into the past . . . *pages forward to the National Dex and starts scouring* Do you have access to any 3rd Gen games besides Emerald?

Why? I don't trade. Or breed. Or gain exp from wild Pokemon. Trainers give so much anyway that I need to split exp between about 15 Pokemon to avoid going over the limit. I'm also playing on an emulator. I own the game, but I can't record anything on that.

First things first then, anything I can use for the 8th Gym? Level limit : 30
I'm thinking about training Manectric (vs Team Magma and Aqua) to get a decent offensive Pokemon.

[Rikter]

I actually find I like using random battles on Shobby Battle.

[M. Burusu]

First things first then, anything I can use for the 8th Gym? Level limit : 30
I'm thinking about training Manectric (vs Team Magma and Aqua) to get a decent offensive Pokemon.

Captain Stand-In? I'm looking at my book and thinking Tropius might be a decent choice, provided you keep it away from Sealeo and just use something else to wreck that Ice-slinging walrus.

1) Grass and gets Razor Leaf, so that's effective against everyone save the Sealeo and Kingdra (which it is normally-effective against thank goodness),

2) Flying, so Earthquake doesn't nail it (and it's 4x strong against the Whiscash to begin with).

3) Whirlwind, so you could actually feasibly force away the Sealeo whenever it comes.

4) It may not be spectacular, but it's not pathetic either. (EDIT: Just looked on Bulbapedia, and it looks like its stats make it more of a tank than anything, so that's something. : / )

5) Easily findable and obtainable.

Also, as you thought Manectric is also a good choice (though once again there is a Pokemon you keep it away from or else get wrecked: that Whiscash and its Earthquake).

[Prody]

Uh... I've played it

I don't include romhacks because many people aim to make romhacks PRECISELY because the games aren't hard enough for many players

I've never thought anyone would actually play that. Cheers to you.

Lv34 VS Elite Four? 0_0

Talk about Hard Mode.

Watch Kaizo Pokemon if you haven't.

It looks like you haven't; if you did, then my bad.

[Verloren]

Well, it's kinda hard to watch that when it's on niconico, and not everyone has a nico nico account.

[trancehime]

Lolwut? I don't see how a Crobat is hard to get. You only need to be level 22. Happinness is ridiculously easy to max if you're always using the same Pokemon.

Please tell me how I was supposed to make it "easy". I had to reset the game over 30 times, because I had nobody able to resist a Psychic attack. If you know something that could make the Elite Four not be total hell (like a useful Pokemon), please say it.

Oh, right.

You're doing a low level game or some shit? I had level 60 Pokemon by then so *shrug*

I'm a powerleveller by nature, so our stances are wildly different. I have a greater challenge facing real people than I ever will playing against a game. There's less emphasis in game on utility moves like Stealth Rock, which are godlike in a competitive setting.

Also, battle items that increase Sp.Def. :3

EDIT: Oh, use Sableye. He has got no weakness.

[Verloren]

I'm a powerleveller by nature, so our stances are wildly different. I have a greater challenge facing real people than I ever will playing against a game.

EDIT: Oh, use Sableye. He has got no weakness.

Everyone will find real people harder than not in games like this.

Sableye has no weaknesses... and no strengths. Low attack and special attack, slow, not that great of HP - basically, it needs an evolution to become useful.