Author Topic: Spellcard Help Topic (Read 145727 times)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #780 on:** October 26, 2009, 11:29:36 PM »

One more thing. Only ONE word.
Ichirin. The ENTIRE GODDAMN FIGHT. I'm so bad at it you would be surprised that I've reached Byakuren on that run.

replay here
Her first one is an autobomb, can't figure out her second and the third is an autobomb too.

LHCling · « **Reply #781 on:** October 26, 2009, 11:59:49 PM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5625

First SC is read and dodge. I would recommend using more of the screen between "waves" to allow more freedom to "dodge" the really slow bullets.

Second SC see replay.

3rd SC I would just misdirect the fists. I wanted to make the replay impressive and sit in between 2 fists, but I clipped before I got the chance to.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #782 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:26:43 AM »

The second and third ones are much more acceptable now....still can't do her first and first nonspell though.

And Nazrin Pendulum.
At the beginning I go right between them, but then it pushes me to the bottom where I get walled and I have to bomb.

LHCling · « **Reply #783 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:40:37 AM »

You should go through them a second time as well.

The recommended spot is either a bit left from the center. Keep in mind that you're going to break through when the pendulums speed up, else it will be too late. Using this spot to break through would make the Spell Card end faster.

Alternatively, if you don't want to take as much of a risk, consider moving to the bottom left corner, and there should be plenty of space there. Beware of aimed bubble bullets though.

Helix ⑨ · « **Reply #784 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:50:59 PM »

Unindentified Rainbow UFO invasion ofterror. WHAT IS THIS?

?q · « **Reply #785 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:06:08 PM »

Quote from: Kawaii Yokai on October 27, 2009, 08:50:59 PM

Unindentified Rainbow UFO invasion ofterror. WHAT IS THIS?

Another terrible Nue card; why do you ask :V

Helix ⑨ · « **Reply #786 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:10:46 PM »

Quote from: u? on October 27, 2009, 09:06:08 PM

Another terrible Nue card; why do you ask :V

I NEED HELP PLEASE

theshirn · « **Reply #787 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:02:53 PM »

MERLIN'S OPENER

GODDAMNIT

and Yuyuko's third noncard, please.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #788 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Kawaii Yokai on October 27, 2009, 09:10:46 PM

I NEED HELP PLEASE

Try to focus on one UFO stream and kill it ASAP.
If you fail to kill it, pass through the vertical bullet wall it creates first, then micrododge the falling bullets.

Helix ⑨ · « **Reply #789 on:** October 27, 2009, 10:17:14 PM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on October 27, 2009, 10:10:58 PM

Try to focus on one UFO stream and kill it ASAP.
If you fail to kill it, pass through the vertical bullet wall it creates first, then micrododge the falling bullets.

I hope I have enough power for that after my 3 deaths on Undefined Darkness

theshirn · « **Reply #790 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:21:22 AM »

Quote from: theshim on October 27, 2009, 10:02:53 PM

MERLIN'S OPENER

GODDAMNIT

and Yuyuko's third noncard, please.

damnit Baity answer me

also help with Pseudo Stradivarius/the other one that isn't Ghost Clifford (because Ghost Clifford is easy YES I WENT THERE DONUT)

LHCling · « **Reply #791 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:34:32 AM »

Quote from: theshim on October 28, 2009, 05:21:22 AM

damnit Baity answer me

I don't have it unlocked :<
However, it's just streaming. Oddly enough, I didn't even have to move that far per cycle on Hard, and I seriously doubt that Lunatic could be that much worse.

Quote from: theshim on October 28, 2009, 05:21:22 AM

also help with Pseudo Stradivarius/the other one that isn't Ghost Clifford (because Ghost Clifford is easy YES I WENT THERE DONUT)

"Pseudo Stradivarius" is just moving around in large squares / triangles / octagons / circles / etc. . Move too fast and trap yourself. Move too slow and the same thing happens.

"B?sendorfer Spirit Performance" is just read and evade. Beware of being cornered is the only advice I have to give.

Screw it, PMing 'nut to answer my request since he apparently hasn't even read the thread.

theshirn · « **Reply #792 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:37:38 AM »

Quote from: Gengetu Rape Time on October 28, 2009, 05:34:32 AM

I don't have it unlocked :<
However, it's just streaming. Oddly enough, I didn't even have to move that far per cycle on Hard, and I seriously doubt that Lunatic could be that much worse.

Try it. Please. And, you know, maybe a replay? It's the TEH BROKEN SAKUYA A LOLZ, you can't complain that it would be remotely difficult to do or take more than around 20 minutes...please? :V

Azinth · « **Reply #793 on:** October 28, 2009, 06:02:58 AM »

Yuyuko's third noncard is static. Or more accurately, the knives are static and the bubbles are aimed. The high damage types can end it by staying in the center to start, moving to the bottom right as the knives sweep across, and going back up to the center; the card should end before the knives sweep back up again. Since you're using SakuyaA, you could also just hang out in the bottom corner. The knives mostly just come straight down and are readable enough, and you can memorize them if you're dedicated enough.

That said, don't use SakuyaA. Not because she's broken, but because she's one of the worst shottypes in the game. If you want to use Sakuya, use the B type, as she is an absolute beast who lays waste to everything (except for Merlin's opener, which she sucks at)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #794 on:** October 28, 2009, 06:13:31 AM »

Quote from: theshim on October 28, 2009, 05:21:22 AM

damnit Baity answer me

also help with Pseudo Stradivarius/the other one that isn't Ghost Clifford (because Ghost Clifford is easy YES I WENT THERE DONUT)

If I ever gave you the impression that I thought Ghost Clifford was hard, I'm sorry. It was more the psychological pain of having to go through a 4 minute stage to face a card I had never seen before. Now that I've faced it a few times it's really easy.

theshirn · « **Reply #795 on:** October 28, 2009, 06:24:43 AM »

Quote from: Azinth on October 28, 2009, 06:02:58 AM

Yuyuko's third noncard is static. Or more accurately, the knives are static and the bubbles are aimed.

Holy hell I did not know that. Now that is trivial.

Also captured Demon World for the first time (though it's really not THAT bad).

Need help now:
Sumizome Perfect Blossom: I can tell that it is aimed based on your position, and that the purples seem to be more likely to Murdelize Your Face than the greens, but I still am not certain. Help appreciated.

Resurrection Butterfly 80%: Earlier I did it two deaths, this time was five. Every time I think I had it right, a red butterfly bullet would hit me. Help? Or is it just reading?

LHCling · « **Reply #796 on:** October 28, 2009, 06:46:38 AM »

Quote from: theshim on October 28, 2009, 06:24:43 AM

Need help now:
Sumizome Perfect Blossom: I can tell that it is aimed based on your position, and that the purples seem to be more likely to Murdelize Your Face than the greens, but I still am not certain. Help appreciated.

Resurrection Butterfly 80%: Earlier I did it two deaths, this time was five. Every time I think I had it right, a red butterfly bullet would hit me. Help? Or is it just reading?

Both are grouped under read 'n' dodge (for now).

There seems to be a pattern for "PCB" but I'm still in the process of working it out.

I'd grind "Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana" just because it's harder to practice for "Resurrection".

1cc'd PCB with a life spare, but that's because I was holding out on bombs [10D24B derpderp]. From the playthrough, Merlin's opening can be done in the same way as every other difficulty. The only things I noticed were the bullets being slightly faster, and an extra ring of red bullets.

I'll start working on a replay once I get back from dinner :V

EDIT: ( = 3=)

The idea is there, it's just that I messed up the execution twice.

About "Ghost Clifford" (or equivalent) I wouldn't put it down as an easy or hard SC. Why? Because you can just devote it 100% to memory.

And here's a somewhat "better" Stage 6 PCB Demonstration. Obligatory notes.

"Ageless Obsession" is static. Learn the spots.
If you're failing "Lost Soul's Village" consistently, I suggest you stop.
~~Demon World~~ "Law of Mortality" is just micromemorization
"Butterfly Delusion" is just something you have to know. Unfortunately, I messed it up completely for unknown reasons. I use a bow tie pattern.
Try to take on "PCB" using horizontal movements for the majority of the time. Only use vertical movements when you're desperate. Or disregard this piece of advice if you've found no problems using vertical movements
Don't move so far into "Resurrection Butterfly" like I tried to do. I couldn't see my hitbox very well.

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #797 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:38:26 AM »

Fantasy Seal -Blink-. Rage.

Doesn't matter whether I'm playing as Sanae or Meiling; I can't aim my attacks properly while Reimu's moving, and depending on whether I'm far off or close up when she stops, she either blocks my projectiles or combos me into the wall. >_<

Demonbman · « **Reply #798 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:20:03 PM »

Quote from: rdj522 on October 29, 2009, 03:38:26 AM

Fantasy Seal -Blink-. Rage.

Doesn't matter whether I'm playing as Sanae or Meiling; I can't aim my attacks properly while Reimu's moving, and depending on whether I'm far off or close up when she stops, she either blocks my projectiles or combos me into the wall. >_<

you and me both sir, i find it best as Sanae to equip the Esoterica "Nine Syllable Stabs"
card and use it when shes flying every-which-way. For Meiling, try using the red flower punch and dash towards her and melee, it works for me..(kinda)

Bananamatic · « **Reply #799 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:36:02 PM »

Byakuren's second nonspell - I either capture it or clip it, and I have no idea how the hell did it hit me.
Did the bullets suddenly change direction or something?

Esoterica · « **Reply #800 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:35:20 PM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on October 29, 2009, 05:36:02 PM

Byakuren's second nonspell - I either capture it or clip it, and I have no idea how the hell did it hit me.
Did the bullets suddenly change direction or something?

They do it on normal, I'd imagine they do it on higher difficulties too.

Drake · « **Reply #801 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:36:59 PM »

Byakuren shoots the bullets in a small arc, fairly randomly, but according to your position. They then stop and fall down, moving generally in your direction.

lumber_of_the_beast · « **Reply #802 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:47:43 PM »

Need help with... oh god, I'm never going to live this down...

Funeral Concert "Prism Concerto -Easy-".

I swear I'll be good at this game some day ;~;

Drake · « **Reply #803 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:51:38 PM »

Press shift for focused movement.

No seriously, that card has no real strategy to it. It all comes down to plain dodging. They do come in waves and all from the left though, so if that gives you any ideas, then hooray.

lumber_of_the_beast · « **Reply #804 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:01:37 PM »

I think you might thinking of their next spell card, Great Funeral Concert "Ghostly Wheel Concerto Grosso".

Either that or I've managed to confuse myself. Also a possibility!

Lybydose · « **Reply #805 on:** October 30, 2009, 04:43:19 AM »

Quote from: lumber_of_the_beast on October 29, 2009, 08:47:43 PM

Need help with... oh god, I'm never going to live this down...

Funeral Concert "Prism Concerto -Easy-".

I swear I'll be good at this game some day ;~;

Had to go back and see what this was. Apparently it's more difficult than what Hard gets. Anyway, the middle of the screen is fine for when their prisms are horizontal (first two "waves"). Once they start spinning them, the bullets will end up mostly in the middle, so go to either the left or right side and dodge stuff.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #806 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:50:13 PM »

Magic Butterfly hard.
Easy until the 4th or so wave where both of them go at me at once.

Lybydose · « **Reply #807 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:32:55 PM »

Quote from: Bananamatic on October 30, 2009, 05:50:13 PM

Magic Butterfly hard.
Easy until the 4th or so wave where both of them go at me at once.

Completely static (I think?). This worked like 5 times in a row.

Bottom middle is safe for "enough" waves (long enough to capture with SanaeB, so should be quicker with ReimuNeedles or MarisaA). My attempts to time it out ended up with me deathbombing a few waves after I would have captured it if I were shooting, so if you're at like 1 power for some reason....good luck. Replay. Ignore everything else, I was just bomb spamming to reach this quickly.

Bananamatic · « **Reply #808 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:55:15 PM »

Okay, SOMEBODY HELP ME
BAITY
DONUT
SAPZ
ANYONE

Replay here.
Watch me fail stages 2 and 3, then somehow getting all the way to Devil's Recitation even though I've missed the Nue life.
Could be a possible clear if I wouldn't get hit in DR, as the one bomb is enough after the lasers activate and I can capture both Air Scroll and LFO.

It was a pretty bad run, failed Aura of Justice, got walled on Murasa's survival, failed both Nue spams....

How do you finish stage 3 with seven lives instead of 3 and with no bombs?
No matter how many replays I watch, I'm not consistent on ANY of the st2-3 cards.

Sapz · « **Reply #809 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:58:56 PM »

Can't watch replay right now since I have to go out, but as a general rule 1. abuse stage practice until you consistently beat the stages 1/0 deaths, 2. learn a good UFO pattern for the first three stages and 3. learn which attacks to bomb (and ALWAYS bomb Consecutive Hooks). :V Will try and provide more detailed help later.