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Bananamatic

Most frustrating games?
« on: November 12, 2009, 11:07:07 PM »
ITT games which simply made you swear like a sailor and throw the controller.
(except for shmups)

Persona 3. The AI. It's HORRIBLE. It can't even heal or buff properly without wasting turns like idiots or even making me game over because of the AI.
Makes me wonder what does even AI mean - articifial intelligence or actual idiocy?
Also, The Answer. The ungodly amount of attack dodging made me cry.
I've missed Thunder Reign 7 times in a row. Fun.

Pok?mon XD: Gale of Darkness. Easy maingame, so let's try Orre Colosseum....
Try it with XD pokes only.
The double teams are perfectly set up to screw you up and you have a very limited amount of tactics available. Imagine getting both of your pokes confused in one turn while both of the enemies have Own Tempo. Fun fun fun.
Same for Stadium 1 and 2 on N64. Round 2 is pretty much impossible with rental pokemon.

Tales of Symphonia - THE AI GODDAMNIT
LEARN TO BLOCK AND STOP CASTING AT POINT BLANK RANGE

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 11:22:48 PM »
Ninja gaiden (1 and 2) on hard or higher difficulty.
Let's just run down this street, ooh ninjas! BOOM exploding kunai everywhere. No sweat, let me just jump over here *gets hit by more exploding kunai in the air* FUCK YOU I'm gonna run away, oh wait are that ninjas with automatic rocket launchers?

Also:
Hi! I'm a dog, you can't stun or stop me.
Hi! I'm a mecha, sorry where you hitting me? I couldn't feel it through my steel armor plating.
Hi! I'm a dog, but this time I'm a demon... Also, I have exploding kunai.
Hi! I'm a ghost fish, I will bite you now for 1% damage per second! Also, here are my 27 friends.
Hi! I'm a meteor crashing down on your face. Let me just get up with my big exoskeleton armored body while I hit you with my collosal two handed blade. Ouch! You broke my armor :( let me just enter demon mode and add fire damage to my blade while I shoot fire and lasers everywhere. Did I mention there are 2 of us?
Hi there big boss, your only weakspot is your face, let me just hit it, oh you grabbed me and you're doing 75% of my hp bar in 1 attack? Sure that's okay, ooh you're gonna do it twice in a row? Sure I can live through that... NOT!
Hi! I am the one who stole your sword. You can go ahead and attack me from your floating rock while I shoot lasers in all directions and angles. Once you've depleted my hp bar I will drop down and stay in the lava so you can't hit me!

and last but certainly not least:
HI IM THE FINAL BOSS LOL! I AM BIG AND STUPIT! AND YOU CANT HIT ME WITH YOUR SWORD SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE YOUR..... BOW?!?!?!

BOW?BOWBOWBOWBOW!? what were they thinking, I dont wanna beat the final boss with a freaking bow ._.


One of my favorite games of all times :V (no sarcasm)

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 11:24:19 PM »
Solstice for the NES. The only game that is finishable that I could never get around to bothering to finish.

Long? Check
No saves or password feature? check
invisible pits, spikes, enemies, anything that kills you? check
Completely impossible areas without memorization...hours into the game? check.

Yeah. gave up with that one. I suppose it's easy now with the internet and gamefaqs and the like, but I tend to not really bother with that stuff until after I beat a game once. Besides, it's not even very fun.

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 11:31:56 PM »
Action games tend to piss me off.

Devil may cry. fixed camera angles rapidly changing, no dodge, stiff jumping.
I never got past the 1st boss. I quit it as soon as I picked it up.

Also every Megaman game I've played.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 11:39:04 PM »
The original .hack series. Seriously, what the heck? Not only do your attacks miss half the time, you're stuck with using either powerful multi-hit attacks against one enemy at a time AND LEAVE YOU WIDE OPEN FOR THE REST TO SLAUGHTER YOU, regular weak attacks, or slightly wider, incredibly weak attacks. Once again, EVERY SINGLE ONE of these attacks has absolutely horrendous accuracy, so you're pretty much stuck with using stuff that leaves you open to be slaughtered.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 11:51:09 PM »
These

Some highly frustrating moments in Kingdom Hearts, I hate fighting Dancer Nobodies and the Demyx fight was shit.

Megaman X5 was the pinnacle of my frustration....no wait X6. X6 was fucking hard as hell in the final levels it was super ridiculous.

UFO - we know

Majora's Mask - nuff said >_>

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 12:02:29 AM »
I can't think of any games that give me a lot much trouble, so I'll go for one game that sticks out the most to me. As lame and overused as this will seem:

I Wanna Be the Guy.

Now, I'm not talking about bawwing after dying the the same spike 5 or so times; I actually had a problem beating this game. I literally spent months on this, trying for at least an hour almost every day to clear this one jump or this one screen. I simply gave up at the last boss for a couple of months. I came back to it around May of this year, and with some friends to play along with and to keep me motivated.

As a joke, one friend said that he could beat the game faster than it would take me to beat the last boss. And he was right. He beat it just hours before I did. When I finally finished, I counted up the total amount of time I had spent on that one boss alone (I was recording it so I could put it up on Youtube and end this "walkthrough" of mine I had going.) and had ended up with 12 HOURS of gameplay footage. All 12 hours just for one boss. I had pushed myself so far into beating this game that I didn't even blink when I heard The Guy go down; I just sat there emotionless during the credits.

What did I do after that? Instead of wiping IWBTG off my hard drive for all eternity, I played it again and beat it in 2 days. It was at this time where I finally realized that I had put an end to IWBTG after so long and was able to enjoy the ending properly. Now, I play IWBTG when I get bored or feel like testing myself on some of the higher difficulties.

Phew.
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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2009, 12:12:36 AM »
I can't think of any games that give me a lot much trouble, so I'll go for one game that sticks out the most to me. As lame and overused as this will seem:

I Wanna Be the Guy.
I liked that game. I wanna be the fangame was well done at trying to capture the spirit of the original too. But it just..well... Wasn't as fun.
I haven't tried I wanna be the shrinemaiden yet >=P.

But I notice that alot of the "good" players in IWBTG kinda cheat by having some auto-fire enabled somehow. I mean they shoot inhumanly possible. My brother is the world's best "push this button faster than the other guy and you win", and he can't compare to that what I see almost all the playthru videos featuring. This sounds unimportant, but it really trivializes bosses.

1: you can nail a dracula phase in like 4 jumps with this,
2: you can nail each of the final boss' eyeballs in 2 jumps with this,
3: clear thru mother brain without even stopping >=P..ok not quite, but really it's so easy.

Many people say they just shoot fast.. They're lying thru their teeth.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2009, 01:40:44 AM »
Tales of Symphonia - THE AI GODDAMNIT
LEARN TO BLOCK AND STOP CASTING AT POINT BLANK RANGE

I feel your pain. Its honestly making Tales Dawn more troublesome and tedious to play through than it really should be (stopped playing it completely awhile back).

Said problems with AI also extends into Half-Life 2. Nothing like getting killed because the lame-brained AI partner won't get the fuck out of your way.

IWBtG needs no mention. Don't get me started on the end stages of MegaMan X5, or any of X6. Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedghog- all better games than that 2006 crapfest, but not by much. I mean, getting glitched off of platforms, over sensitive controls and misjudging jumps because of a crippled camera are not my idea of fun (Sonic Adventure 2 in particular is sickeningly overrated imo).

Back when I was a kid, I remember getting all up in arms about Mario 3's World 7 and world 8. And ooooooooh god, that one ice cave level that still bothers me to this day... Oh, and don't forget the purple coin challenges of Super Mario Galaxy (still working on those on and off).

Touhou Youyoumu: If The Prism Rivers don't ruin your otherwise perfect run, Youmu will try her damned hardest. And SA. Just SA. Pisses me off more than any other shmup I've ever played period. It just feels really cheap to me.

F-Zero GX. Diamond Cup master difficulty. I blame that for my lack of sanity. I actually vowed NEVER to play that again once I finally somehow beat it, even under threat of pain or death. Story Mode on Hard and Very Hard, NO, JUST NO.

EDIT: Rayman 2. Actually, anytime you had to jump (broke-ass, unatural feeling jumping...), any time you had to ride a vehicle, any slide sequence, the final boss battle... Still love the game to pieces though. :B
« Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 01:52:07 AM by Odda C. »

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 02:47:53 AM »
Etrian Odyssey.

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 02:53:43 AM »
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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 04:05:33 AM »
Etrian Odyssey.
F O E
F O E
F O E
F O E!

What's that, you didn't buy a Wire?  F O E!
Haven't saved for the last hour?  F O E!
Oh look, the Medic's out of TP!  F O E!
Goddamn level 70 cap!  F O E!!

...yeah.  EO is high on this list by any reckoning.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 04:23:47 AM »
Being obsessive-compulsive and easily becoming attached to characters individual enough to at least have their own name, I cannot tolerate losing characters in games. This particularly hurts in Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon, because I HAVE to kill people in order to unlock the Gaiden chapters (and not just a few, either... most have to go).

Megaman games were hard until I learned the tricks to each stage and boss. Now they're just a big 'ol laugh. =B

Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 05:29:46 AM »
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.
Ever try Touhoumon?

Lorelei opens with a level 69 EXCirno.  With Sheer Cold.

I usually call my runs when I do everything but the Elite Four, because I'm usually high 40s-low50s, and NO WAY am I grinding 10 levels on EVERYONE.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 06:28:31 AM »
Most of the time the Elite Four + Champion isn't the hardest fight up to that point. Cynthia just gets points for being hot and getting both an amazing pre-battle and battle theme.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 06:33:19 AM »
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.

Am I the only person to always reach the Elite Four while having the starter at least 10 levels above them and everyone else at sufficient levels to beat them with ease?

Haven't tried Touhoumon because RPG+Computer=arrrgghhhh.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 09:28:34 AM »
What's that, you didn't buy a Wire?  F O E!
Haven't saved for the last hour?  F O E!
Oh look, the Medic's out of TP!  F O E!
Goddamn level 70 cap!  F O E!!

...yeah.  EO is high on this list by any reckoning.

EO2 has a Lv99 cap, though.

I Wanna Be the Guy.

>IWBTG
>frustrating games

Why are you complaining? IWBTG is supposed to be frustrating. It was DESIGNED that way.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 10:55:25 AM »
Am I the only person to always reach the Elite Four while having the starter at least 10 levels above them and everyone else at sufficient levels to beat them with ease?

Haven't tried Touhoumon because RPG+Computer=arrrgghhhh.
I don't know about Fire Red. But in the original red the elite 4 only started with 'mons in there end 40s to 50s. In touhoumon however they're all arround 70. Big difference, I was kinda surprised because I usually manage to be on par with the elite 4 but when I reached it in touhoumon her cirno single handedly killed off my entire team.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 11:35:14 AM »
Am I the only person to always reach the Elite Four while having the starter at least 10 levels above them and everyone else at sufficient levels to beat them with ease?

Haven't tried Touhoumon because RPG+Computer=arrrgghhhh.

Here's what I remember:

I finished Yellow at Lv80~ (Noteworthy: My MVP was a Lv86 Nidoking)
I finished GSC at Lv75~
I finished RSE at Lv65~ (Emerald had the best AI)
I finished Pearl/Platinum at Lv78~ (Noteworthy: My highest leveled Pokemon at the time was 85)
Fire Red was defeated at Lv68~
Soul Silver is about to be beaten, I'm at the Lv75 mark

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 12:48:54 PM »
Here's what I remember:

I finished Yellow at Lv80~ (Noteworthy: My MVP was a Lv86 Nidoking)
I finished GSC at Lv75~
I finished RSE at Lv65~ (Emerald had the best AI)
I finished Pearl/Platinum at Lv78~ (Noteworthy: My highest leveled Pokemon at the time was 85)
Fire Red was defeated at Lv68~
Soul Silver is about to be beaten, I'm at the Lv75 mark
I usually finish Yellow in the high 40s or just let the legendary birds sweep everything.
Crystal also in high 40s. Red isn't all that hard even with 30 less levels.

Played Ruby only through emu out of curiosity(would buy, probably doesn't even exist anymore) but I've reached the E4 with 10 less levels than what I've needed.

I'm not really that guy which trains a lot. I just beat all of the trainers and Repel through the dungeons.
How the hell do you train so much anyways? I get sick even from getting 1 level in the 40s from the wild pokemon.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 12:59:09 PM »


This game was not playtested.

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »
EO gets a mention for making me mess up the 100% clear.

Earthbound with its Final Dungeon (normal encounters WTF) was pretty FFFFF-worthy as well.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2009, 05:21:55 PM »
EO2 has a Lv99 cap, though.
Yeah, but that involves REMAKING YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FROM LEVEL 30 A GRAND TOTAL OF TWENTY-NINE TIMES.

The HELL with that.

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Bananamatic

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2009, 05:39:14 PM »
Digimon World 2 and 3.
Cool gameplay, but awfully slow and grind based.

The most exp you get from a random enemy is 200 - I've spent over 100 hours on my first playthrough just to reach lv40. Max is 99. Have fun.
And the slooooooooooow combat. If I'm ever going to replay this, it's on an emulator.

DW2....terribly monotonous dungeons with a stupid system where you step on a trap which can knock you out in 1 hit and the fact that your digimans freeze on a certain level, meaning that you have to DNA fuse or something.
In other words, fuse 2 strong digimans into one weak one with a greater level potential.
Hit the cap again, repeat until you vomit.
And the sloooooooooooooow combat.

Seriously Bandai, these series have potential(and a great soundtrack), but you are making them into MMOs without the online part.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2009, 09:00:38 PM »


This game was not playtested.

Yes it was. The playtesters where fired upon pointing out the gazillion flaws. And no, I'm not joking about that.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2009, 09:56:44 PM »
Dungeon Crawl.
FUCKDAMNIT STOP SPAWNING ICE BEASTS IN THE SECOND FLOOR

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2009, 10:59:53 PM »
Etrian Odyssey.
This, oh god so very much this.

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 08:40:13 PM »
Mario ;_;

Even the supposedly easy one for DS makes me FFFF so much


Also Touhou UFO :V

Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2009, 08:58:36 PM »
Touhou games don't really make me mad. When I die I just go ohhhhh :(

I really get mad at games when I have to jump and platform.
Missing the same jump 50+ times makes me so pissy.

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Re: Most frustrating games?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2009, 10:03:58 PM »
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.
That's because the fourth generation of Pokemon was terribly designed.

The first member of the Elite Four opens with something ten levels higher than the strongest wild Pokemon you have access to.
Cynthia's Pokemon are ten levels higher than that and (mostly) not pushovers at equal levels.
Enjoy your grinding.

Pokemon Colosseum was the same way, incidentally.  (Yes, I just admitted to playing it >.> )
The final battle sequence put you against four ordinary trainers, and then a team of special users five levels higher than all of them, and then a team of high tier+ five levels higher than them.  Again, enjoy your grinding.  And kill the Slowking before it Skill Swaps with Slaking.