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Numbers Mafia - Scum Win, Q.E.D.
Serp:
That was... painful to watch. I hate it when people bitch and moan in the postgame, but I've got to admit that I really sympathize with how Kilga felt after Invasion. Scum played a solid game, I suppose, but this was more a case of the town losing than of the scum winning. The odds were stacked against the town in the first place, with two newbies and an inactive on their side, while scum had a solid pair to work with. I don't see anyone that I can name Town MVP aside from myself, but good strategy and correct alignment predictions are only half of playing well as town. You also have to be able to convince the town that your pick of scum is actually scum.
--- Quote from: Roukanken ---He was the deciding vote between the Zak/Serp wagons, and he was scum pulling it away from his buddy. The most obvious setup possible, and Town managed to miss it.
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This is a completely valid observation,
--- Quote from: Roukanken ---...See, this is why I don't play anymore.
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But this is utter bullshit. You stopped playing out of exasperation at your own failures more than at the failures of others, as I remember it. You didn't join as a player, and there's no reason to think that you would've done any better in a townie's shoes, so you don't have a leg to stand on. Put up or shut up.
Anyway, the game's setup was fine. The shorter days were a little hectic, but I'm starting to think that we should be playing some shorter games just to remind everyone of the basics of how to find scum, rather than longer games that just produce ten pages of text in a day and don't have any easily discernable lessons.
Nietz:
--- Quote from: Roukanken on November 03, 2009, 06:19:39 PM ---Why the heck did no-one look at Nietz after D2?
He was the deciding vote between the Zak/Serp wagons, and he was scum pulling it away from his buddy. The most obvious setup possible, and Town managed to miss it.
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Because they didn't previously know we were the scumpair?
I mean, I actually expected to get more flak for that than I actually did, but after quite some time weighting the pros and cons of bussing Zak or not, I just decided to vote like a townie.
It couldn't be helped was hard not to see Serp as scummier and more legitimate vote at that point. I knew he was right about Zakeri, but his reasoning was unconvincing even to me. I actually regretted voting him soon after that because I also became convinced he had a cop result.
UncertainJakutten:
Hai hai, I'm sorry for hammering you master.
Honestly, when I reread I was like "WHAT THE FUCK? WHY WAS SERPY LYNCHED!?"
that should have been a hint to me.
Ramus:
Hey ho Serp, guess what, you can't make someone play a game if they don't enjoy it.
So final thoughts: I suck at surviving. Analysis is far easier to do post-posthumously. Anyway, Zakeri I had flagged from the first day and I really should have gone after him instead of arguing with Pesco... -___-. Still, I just got Zakeri because it left the argument to everyone else and in essence, lurked. Nietz, though I didn't see him race any flags until the "I hate lylo when I'm a little suspicious of everyone." I'm not sure why, but that just set something off in my head.
Pesco, after my death and I stopped being pissed off at him, looked townie because he took initiative to look for scum, something that I need to relearn to do. Finally guys, WHY DID YOU WANT FROM ME THE FIRST DAY?!
UncertainJakutten:
--- Quote ---Finally guys, WHY DID YOU WANT FROM ME THE FIRST DAY?!
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You to calm down and assess the reactions against you. Might not have worked but it would have been better.