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Ar Tonelico 3
« on: October 14, 2009, 03:18:04 AM »
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 03:21:31 AM »
Oh shit :O

Thoughts:

-Yay 3d.  Totally expected, but still good to have confirmed.  Hopefully they'll pull off a game that looks as pleasant as Rorona.

-where the fux is my cocona (She's probably the Jakuri of this game)

-rofl Saki's "extreme emotional tension" causing miracles to occur

-Heroines being able to channel their cosmosphere selves sounds like a very interesting mechanic
« Last Edit: October 14, 2009, 03:28:22 AM by Edible »
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 03:53:56 AM »
Oh, awesome! Everything Gust makes is amazing~ ...Except for the second Ar Tonelico IMO >.< How much information is available about the battle system on this one?
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 03:58:08 AM »
Quote from: ShiningDrake on October 14, 2009, 03:53:56 AM
Except for the second Ar Tonelico IMO >.<
what

Quote from: ShiningDrake on October 14, 2009, 03:53:56 AM
How much information is available about the battle system on this one?

Q: Congratulations on the 2nd anniversary of Ar Portal. Btw, I'd like to mention one thing that's bothered me in AT2. I would have liked a more challenge in the fights. I especially felt a lack of challenge on the boss fights. I'm sure you have received other opinions, but I'd really like to see this being improved upon in the next release. To everyone staff member, good luck! - Gabriel

A: Thank you; this is the battle system programmer. Here's some good news just for you. The next game in the series will have a Hard Mode. After the first clear, there will also be a Masochist Mode added. Amazingly, the battle system will be fully real-time. Furthermore, giant bosses will move fluidly like snakes.
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I apologize. I'm being delusional. Everything above is a delusion, but the opinions of gamers are extremely valuable to us (this is true).


hopefully masochist mode is real at least
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 04:03:06 AM »
Quote from: Seventh Holy Scripture on October 14, 2009, 03:58:08 AM
what

I dunno, I really just didn't like Ar Tonelico 2 that much... The battle system and everything felt annoying and like I was being utterly destroyed by everything, even early on... The boss music wasn't that great for me either...

Really, I liked the battle system they had in Ar Tonelico 1 and the Atelier Iris/Mana Khemia games, and the new battle system in AT2 felt kinda bleh to me... Meh, whatever. I probably shouldn't hijack this thread into a discussion of all the Gust games...
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 04:26:12 AM »
Not like there's much to discuss yet besides the enigma of neither of the heroines having a huge rack.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 04:55:12 AM »
Quote from: Seventh Holy Scripture on October 14, 2009, 04:26:12 AM
Not like there's much to discuss yet besides the enigma of neither of the heroines having a huge rack.

In preparation for Cocona, surely.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 06:56:42 PM »
I'd be lying if I said that I weren't disappointed with the switch to 3D.

3D is awful and games should have never started using it, ugh. It's even worse when a franchise switches to 3D in the middle, like AT.

Just... I'm disappointed on a pretty deep level. AT3 is simply an example of a problem endemic to video games in general, though, so I can't hate it too much, I guess.

Still, though. I really wanted us to be able to finish this series in 2D.

Why, Gust, why? N1 and Vanillaware are now the only companies keeping up the good fight. And, hell, N1's got that crossover game that's gonna be 3D. Like, seriously, if Disgaea 4 or Makai Wars or whatever is 3D, that's it, I'm done, I'm never playing a damn RPG again. I feel almost betrayed by the genre at this point.

Anyway...

I won't ever be able to fully accept the 3D, but, well, this is Ar tonelico III. I'm going to be playing this shit in Japanese the day it comes out (assuming shipping won't take too long). Anything negative I could say about this game is overshadowed by the fact that it's Ar tonelico III, I guess.

I'm calling that there are two secret heroines (one of whom is Cocona) this time around. Five cosmospheres, maybe, counting the omake one.

Also apparently jumping is back. Woo.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 07:56:19 PM »
« Last Edit: October 16, 2009, 12:30:23 AM by Seventh Holy Scripture »
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 08:10:11 PM »
The 3D looks nice, and they're keeping the best 2d aspects of the game - namely the paperdolls, which are now pleasantly hi-res.  I would imagine they'll also keep some of the anime-esque 2d cutscenes.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 08:38:11 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLnNHF_-OPk

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New PV from the AT Fan Appreciation Event @ Enta Matsuri in Akihabara a few hrs ago.

Some tidbits from various event attenders:

-Battle system reminicent of ToA/ToV, free movement on 3D field
-Cocona was narrating the event
-Dive system allows you to obtain Hymma, Hymma are used to synthesize hymnos during battles
-RAH system is rather dynamic...battle music changes quite a bit depending on Hymma combination, battle situation, etc
-Undressing is rather important...
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 05:26:15 PM »
Oh my god. That trailer was totally awesome. That song, that song!
I really hope there'll be a quick localization for the US and Europe for this one. Because if it takes about one/one and a half years like AT2 then I'm gonna go crazy from the wait here.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 05:32:59 PM »
The brief clips of the 3d in motion has exceeded my expectations.  Hopefully the same can be said of the doubtful.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 05:56:16 PM »
Quote from: ShiningDrake on October 14, 2009, 04:03:06 AM
I dunno, I really just didn't like Ar Tonelico 2 that much... The battle system and everything felt annoying and like I was being utterly destroyed by everything, even early on... The boss music wasn't that great for me either...

While I liked the battle system, I really didn't like what they did with synthesis. I know that it's not Atelier/Mana Khemia but having to reenter shops just to get new recipes was annoying, not to mention not being able to synth at save points anymore was a pain--unlike in the Atelier series [or at least the games that I've played] you could easily escape out of a dungeon anytime to do it. Not so much with the AT games.

I really hope they go back to AT1's item creation system or at the very least give you the ability to synth at save points back. The free-movement thing sounds interesting as well.

The character designs are... growing on me. It sounds like it'll be good, though thanks to having to deal with the small but holy-hell-you-people-are-fanatical vocal part of the fandom, I'm a bit burned out on the series at the moment.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 01:50:05 AM »
Synthing is basically pointless in AT and has never been anything more than a remnant of the damn Atelier Iris series. Easily the low point in the system for both games so far, so I don't really care what they do with it.

The battle system being free roaming is very cool. I just hope it doesn't turn out shitty.

Still no conclusive info as to how large Saki's boobs are. Honestly I want to know this more than anything else
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 02:13:09 AM »
The most popular girls by far in both AT and AT2 were the tsurupeta duo of Shurelia and Jakuri.

I think they took the hint.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 05:53:08 AM »
Quote from: Edible on October 27, 2009, 02:13:09 AM
I think they took the hint.
I sure hope they did, at least!

Saki has a great design... assuming she's flat.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 06:24:30 AM »
I wouldn't mind if she had a loli and an adult form, Misha-style.  They'd have to do the gag differently, though.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 07:19:22 AM »
Quote from: Edible on October 27, 2009, 06:24:30 AM
I wouldn't mind if she had a loli and an adult form, Misha-style.  They'd have to do the gag differently, though.

That's basically what the cosmospheres are all about this time.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 06:47:39 AM »
So, aside from Cocona, who do you think will make it over to the third tower?  I'm willing to bet Spica somehow manages to make an appearance at some point.

As for speedy translation, it's probably too much to hope, but they really should hire some people who had English as their first language for their QA and translation groups.  After the relative trainwreck that was AT2 (EXEC_DESPEDIA/. being called Deathpedia, Ayane and Jean gender confusion, and the goddamn Raki fight), they better start working their asses off once they have it in order to avoid being ridiculed by the English retranslation community.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 06:00:47 PM »
Spica is probably Cocona's contact in Clusternia.

I agree about the translation fuckery - NISA very clearly did not spend much time on the second game (despite continual delays).  Granted, I'll be buying it anyway because the series is too good to ignore, so hopefully they'll have gotten the message.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2009, 09:52:17 PM »
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1229175_1407.html
New characters.

Akane is pretty hot, I wouldn't object to her as a third Reyvateil... looks like she's more likely an antagonist, though.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 09:53:49 PM »
I doubt they'll reveal the third Reyvateil before the game comes out.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2009, 12:39:44 AM »
lolworkpc can't process japonais runes.

Pink girl looks like an antagonist, sword girl will most likely be a party member.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2009, 02:12:24 AM »
Quote from: Edible on November 10, 2009, 12:39:44 AM
lolworkpc can't process japonais runes.

Pink girl looks like an antagonist, sword girl will most likely be a party member.

Text says the opposite, Rikkaryousha (good name) is vice chief of some laboratory in the city of Arukia where humans and Reyvateils can live together, whereas Akane is commander of the Anti-Human Militia or something in Clusternia (the Reyvateil capital where the only humans are slaves.)
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2009, 05:21:29 AM »
All the more reason for them to be as I predicted.  When have laboratories produced ANYTHING good in AT?
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 04:58:03 AM »
So, assuming Clusternia has its own tower (or there would have been rioting during the Suspend incident) and isn't just mooching off a relay tower like Sol Marta, what do you think the new prefix is (e.g. EXEC_ or METHOD_)?

On another note, did they already show Tyria (the third Goddess) in one of the two games, or is my memory just flawed?
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 08:57:21 AM »
Tyria was shown in AT1, but that was due to Mir hacking Aurica's mind, so completely spurious.

Also, the Toukousphere (a blog sort of thing where GUST answers questions about the AT universe) has mentioned that Tyria isn't even the administrator of the third tower.
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 09:11:47 AM »
Man i still have AT2....
man i still haven't played AT2

friggin touhou

I still play AT1's music on my ipod. i especially love the hymns in the game. I remember i preordered AT2 a YEAR before it was released and gotten it earlier this year.
STILL haven't played much of it cause i'v been too into touhou! haha. I bet the same will happen if i get AT3-wait PS3?
nevermind then i don't have a PS3 ahhah.

to be fair i played a little bit of it to get my feet wet on the game. i can't say too much about battle yet but i did find the system in the first one slightly better based on what 40 minutes of gameplay i had in the second one. I dunno i'll have to play more. but the voice acting, graphics everythin definitely reminds me of the first game ^_^ so far i am/did enjoy/ed it.
But...dam Touhou
Remilia won't allow me to fall in love with another game character! (Grown) Misha ftw-*is gungnir'd*
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Re: Ar Tonelico 3
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2009, 10:13:38 AM »
Looking forward to AT3, especially for Hymmnos soundtracks~
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