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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #150 on: October 31, 2009, 09:23:25 AM »
Depends. Also you're OrangeCrush? Didn't know that xd
Yeah, I was mostly playing with my friend (who's named RegitNori) since I convinced him to get the game so that we could play together.

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Some classes are better off maxing a certain skill right off v. quickly (Spirit Sword for Knights, etc.) but others may need to spread. Stats are of your choosing. Usually your primary stat is your damage stat. For Summoners:

CHR > LUK = INT > DEX > STR
I was going to go largely charm with a bit of luck for various reasons. I guess I had the right idea, then.

For skills I got swarm and crow for backup skills, but I think I'll try to max out Puma as soon as I possibly can. Because I have no control over what my familiar decides to attack it tends to go after the toughest enemies first, leaving the small fry shooting at me and making things overall annoying whenever I try to solo dungeons. Puma tends to clear the plenty of small fry rather easily and can really rack up damage against bosses, so there's not much reason to get anything else aside from grant me cover fire while I'm waiting for Puma to charge up again.

On another note, my friend was having a lot of trouble as a swordfighter because he had to be point-blank range and would often die instantly if his timing was ever off, so he'll probably go Magician (where he's hoping for us to become an IN Reimu/Yukari-esque team) before deciding whether to stay or not.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #151 on: October 31, 2009, 01:15:38 PM »
Swordsmen [sic] actually have it easy for PvE since they deflect bullets, you don't NEED to be point blank range, and you'll be using your skills to kill enemies rather than your normal attack, since that's for deflect bullets (Defender unique passive: Brandish) and you only use normal attack to proc Blade Flash (Knight unique passive). Spirit Sword, Thrust, Leap Smash, Throw Sword and the like are all good for swordsmen [sic] DPS.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #152 on: October 31, 2009, 01:23:16 PM »
I bring to you: More Gems from the guy I talked about last night:

Quote from: Whimpy Bowmen
They should Nerf Swordsmen so that they don't solo as often and join parties with us.

Quote from: He's a Ranger, too.
Is Arrow Orb really that good? What if it only hits two monsters?

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I'm kind of scared of trying Archer. All of their attacks look weak

I responded with, in order "I've been soloing all of my quests and passed you in level while doing so." "Then there were only two monsters on the screen." and "Dude, Seriously, Almost every Archer skill literally doubles your normal attack."

It's sort of fun talking to him~ I also got him to try going with me to the Swamp alone and trying that out.

He mainly uses the Phoenix/Dragon spam combo when things get hairy, and likes to use Whirlwind shot. He says he's also saving up JP to switch to hunter so he can get Arbalest, which is how the Arrow Orb discussion came up.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #153 on: October 31, 2009, 02:36:29 PM »
SHINE BRIDGE SUCKS OH MY GOD

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #154 on: October 31, 2009, 03:40:18 PM »
Yay, I started playing last night.
 
I'm a mage named KanakoYasaka. Level 3 =P

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #155 on: October 31, 2009, 04:48:54 PM »
The only skill I think that doesn't suck in PvP is Arbalest, because you can aim it. Maybe Dragon/Pheonix Shot as well, but i dunno.

I'd say Chasing Shot, since Chasing/Rapid makes for a very nice back up if you run out of Arrow Orbs. Plus, Chasing allows you to focus on dodging Boss attacks.

Also, can anyone tell me if maxing out all of the skills on the skill table unlocks anything special? I'm still two and a sixteenth levels away from being able to, so I'm curious.

Having maxed all the skills on my grid. I can say... no.  :V

I should invite you to tour royal town sometime; or anyone on bran for that matter  :V :V :V

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #156 on: October 31, 2009, 05:21:52 PM »
Starting playing this yesterday, and I'm level 5. Stamina is pretty annoying, so far. I always have to go fishing throughout the whole night so I don't lose double stamina. Summoners are pretty damn awesome.

But where's teh loli?

Anyway, my IGN is Kitsu (I fawcking hate whoever took 'Kitsumi'), so feel free to add me if anyone wants to play with a complete newb. =O

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #157 on: October 31, 2009, 06:26:56 PM »
just discovered this, tried to register. Sorry if someone posted a similar problem, I gotta bail my computer for the day in like 5 seocnds, don't have time to read the whole thread. But I e-mailed my registration and got:
Thank you for registering at Gamekiss.com.

Please click on the address given below as the verification key to complete your membership registration. By clicking on the address below, you will be directed to the Gamekiss homepage.
Thank you for using Gamekiss.com..

Notice the lack of address, I just got this blank gray bar. I tried right clicking and having "show picture", but there is no such option, I also right-clicked and hit "copy".. but it pastes into absolutely nothing. EEEK. Anybody know what gives?

....nm figure it out, for some reason the link is visible if I quote it. go figure.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #158 on: October 31, 2009, 07:34:58 PM »
Just downloaded this game and I must say it was better than I expected. I made a Bran Mage and it's quite a fun class. For a free game like this I really like how they balanced the skills out, cause in 9 out of 10 games you'll get skills you don't need but I feel like all of them are really useful. Also I love the space bar attack -> MASTER SPARK!!!!

BTW is there some kind of guild everyone is in? Or are most of you on the other faction?

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #159 on: October 31, 2009, 09:22:17 PM »
Swordsmen [sic] actually have it easy for PvE since they deflect bullets, you don't NEED to be point blank range, and you'll be using your skills to kill enemies rather than your normal attack, since that's for deflect bullets (Defender unique passive: Brandish) and you only use normal attack to proc Blade Flash (Knight unique passive). Spirit Sword, Thrust, Leap Smash, Throw Sword and the like are all good for swordsmen [sic] DPS.
He has to be point-blank range to deal damage because he doesn't have the skill to deflect bullets back at the enemy and he only does decent damage when hitting with his sword directly (and his special skills are only stuff like spins and rushes, all of which require him to charge straight into the enemy's face).

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Also I love the space bar attack -> MASTER SPARK!!!!
I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #160 on: October 31, 2009, 09:38:39 PM »
I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.

Agreed. Summoner's bomb really sucks.

I actually wanted to be a fighter or w/e it's called, but they can deflect bullets, and that's obviously easy modo.

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #161 on: October 31, 2009, 09:42:02 PM »
I actually wanted to be a fighter or w/e it's called, but they can deflect bullets, and that's obviously easy modo.
Tell that to my friend, who keeps getting himself killed and forcing me to solo the bosses. =p

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #162 on: October 31, 2009, 09:54:58 PM »
He has to be point-blank range to deal damage because he doesn't have the skill to deflect bullets back at the enemy and he only does decent damage when hitting with his sword directly (and his special skills are only stuff like spins and rushes, all of which require him to charge straight into the enemy's face).
I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.

Some of the Swordsman's skills has temporary invincibility; so using them isn't a problem. In fact, that's what they spam in PvP essentially ; leap smash, leap smash, leap smash, leap smash. so.. yea...

I have to be point blank myself to hit small bosses anyway XD while dodging bullets.

And the Summoner 's bomb eats bullets during the bomb, plus your main stat "charm" lets you use bombs more.

Swordsman's bomb only does damage,
Mage bomb only clears on activation, you can get killed by bullets that the laser is obscuring in the mean time.
Bowman bomb clears on activation only I think, or it doesn't at all.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #163 on: October 31, 2009, 10:26:16 PM »
Bowman bomb clears on activation only I think, or it doesn't at all.

Bowman bomb stops you in place and gives invincibility until a bit after you can move again. Doesn't clear bullets as far as I can tell.


Also FFFFFFFFF INPUT LAG. Bosses who shoot bursts of fast random bullets in your general direction = death, despite making the "correct" moves. It's hard even to bomb or X out of the way in time - I have time to mash the buttons desperately but often it's not enough.

By the way, how do I know when and how many times I can use the X-boost?

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #164 on: October 31, 2009, 11:08:05 PM »
By the way, how do I know when and how many times I can use the X-boost?

The circle around you indicates the status of your boost-mode. Empty, it's a tiny red little thing that circles around you. It charges as you're not holding the attack button down, and as it does it gets longer and turn white, then blue. When fully charged it turns into a solid circle. Obviously, it discharges as you use it, but I don't know the specifics of how much, since I rarely use it. (Summoners don't really get the chance to lay off the attack button very much.)

The summoner's bomb is sort of like an un-summoning circle. It cancels all bullets within the area of activation, yeah, but also, any enemy close enough to the center will start to turn sideways; once they're fully turned, they take damage - enough damage to instagib most enemies, and even makes pretty short work of heavies. Unfortunately, it doesn't really last long enough to work on more than one grouping of enemies per activation. I've confirmed it does work on bosses, but the numbers looked to be about half my basic attack (though I don't know how the DPS stacks up).

Also, wtf @ Annex Palace bosses?

ebarrett

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #165 on: October 31, 2009, 11:53:52 PM »
Thanks Wolf, that thing is a lifesaver but I could never use it reliably because I wasn't letting go of the Z button except for charging bomb gauge.  :V


Also, I just noticed that while the Hunter/Hunter passive is SWEET (% chance for each arrow to become a bullet-cancelling snare), only Arrow Orb is really good. Arbalest is a fixed-in-place, weirder IN Myon, and Volley Shot seems to be underwhelming. And Pain Shot is just horrible in all aspects.

Will probably go with Volley Shot for the half-spammable, fire-and-forget auto-aim, though. Plenty of time to make up my mind.

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #166 on: November 01, 2009, 12:03:53 AM »
Arbalest is good in that with a level 5 charge, it places 5 launchers on the screen at once. Great for clearing out mobs easily, but I don't know how effective it would be for bosses since you can't really choose where to place the launchers and they all end up firing in different directions.

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #167 on: November 01, 2009, 12:46:16 AM »
Arbalest is good in that with a level 5 charge, it places 5 launchers on the screen at once. Great for clearing out mobs easily, but I don't know how effective it would be for bosses since you can't really choose where to place the launchers and they all end up firing in different directions.

Arbalest imo, only works once per boss fight and only if the boss is huge and doesn't move. You basically drop it 3/4 up on the screen and move down as the boss comes in and takes lotsa damage. Completely situational; boss too small ? boss comes from behind on the sides? likes to move a lot? you're screwed.

I can confirm, Painshot sucks - it has a damage limit, Arrow Orb does 2x more damage lol.

Chaser shot; you need it, but it still sucks  :V Considering the kind of crap the game throws at you later on, you will die using this. But better died once than losing all your lives because you can't kill 6 meaty mobs coming from behind you shooting aimed spreads RIGHT WHEN THE STAGE STARTS.

Leading shot - garbage.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #168 on: November 01, 2009, 01:03:23 AM »
Ex-Difficulty: attempting to solo stages while dealing with trick-or-treaters.

Almost got myself the "Loser" title trying that.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #169 on: November 01, 2009, 03:37:04 AM »
I got a few newbie questions that I cannot seem to find the answer to on the guide or here. sorry.

1: So I have to fish to get my stamina back...for the meat of course. Problem is where on earth do I fish? I looked around the entire town and couldn't find a dock or whatever.

2:upon killing mimics, they tend to drop blue crystal thingies, and icons depicting my class. What do each do?

3: Does level score do anything other than..well, give you a number for some sort of bragging right?

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #170 on: November 01, 2009, 03:46:09 AM »
Fishing is done in a different town... I don't remember the name, but it's pretty far north. If it isn't obvious enough when you search, just look for wherever everyone else is flying at night.

The blue gem things dropped by mimics restore some gauge to the skill icon they display. This is essential later on.

Level score determines the amount of money and exp. you earn after every stage. It's kind of sad that dodging everything can give a lower score... You need to both kill monsters and keep your lives at max to maximize your score, and therefore your money and exp. gain.

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #171 on: November 01, 2009, 03:49:27 AM »
Kirrdora for fishing.


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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #172 on: November 01, 2009, 04:06:19 AM »
thanks a bunch >=)

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #173 on: November 01, 2009, 05:07:30 AM »
I tried some fishing and ran out of bait, at which point I was unable to get out of "fish" mode and was stuck. I restarted.

I just best stage 2 of the 3rd world (I had part 3 unlocked, but decided to grind part 2 for some quest stuff), and at "Mission Completed" the game froze.

Is something going on, or is it all on my end?

EDIT: Also, the game closed itself after alt-tabbing away while it was stuck at the "Mission Completed" message.

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #174 on: November 01, 2009, 05:09:56 AM »
not just you, server just went BOOM.  :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #175 on: November 01, 2009, 05:12:09 AM »
you'll get use to this after a while.

Server crashed again.

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #176 on: November 01, 2009, 05:50:09 AM »
it was awesome, everyone crashed at once.  :V

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #177 on: November 01, 2009, 05:52:16 AM »
Some of the Swordsman's skills has temporary invincibility; so using them isn't a problem. In fact, that's what they spam in PvP essentially ; leap smash, leap smash, leap smash, leap smash. so.. yea...

Sorry, Leap Smash sucks in PvP because IT NEVER HITS. The only swordsman skill worth its fucking salt in PvP is Spirit Sword, and you must melee attack to even get them to connect. Many fellow PvPers and I have bitched about Leap Smash not connecting but other attacks from opposition WILL connect =_=

Also, wtf @ Annex Palace bosses?

It's strange because Final stg boss of Annex Palace is a billion times easier than Stg 3 boss. :3

it was awesome, everyone crashed at once.  :V

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Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #178 on: November 01, 2009, 06:20:24 AM »
I noticed leap smash's tendency to connect depends on movement; but course, most I've end up fighting with people who spams it to no end and it eventually does connect - eventually.  :V Used with spirit sword of course.

To the fair; the only people I've manged to kill in PvP are swordsman, but one because he thought valkyrie mode was crap and decided to just move up to me and swing lol. The other was laughing at me how when I use dual shot he doesn't have to move at all and promptly got pinned by pain shot and died in a gas cloud. That was before they all got smart though...

Compare to me; NOTHING HITS. lol so you've got it made. Like Mages NEVER HITS with homing balls when I'm dodging :P

The only people who NEVER MISSES are Summoners anyway.  :V :V :V

Re: Valkyrie Sky in non-moonspeak world. Finally.
« Reply #179 on: November 01, 2009, 06:29:47 AM »
The only people who NEVER MISSES are Summoners anyway.  :V :V :V

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