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| Karisa:
--- Quote from: Aya Reiko on February 14, 2020, 01:08:00 AM ---In addition to that, who owns the domain name? And about when does it expire? --- End quote --- Seventh Holy Scripture, April 22. 7HS is here again, and as the first post mentioned, tried to contact Linode. Edit: By the way, you can view the forum on a simpler theme by adding [monospace]?theme=16;[/monospace] to the end of a url. For example: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,29584.0.html?theme=16; To switch back, use [monospace]?theme=14;[/monospace] instead. It hides signatures, profile sidebars, and other data that's not necessary to the post. It might help if anyone's trying to archive posts automatically. |
| WishMakers:
Some of us in the Land of Codes and Apertures server are getting a scrape of as much content in RaNGE that we can. Hopefully we can scrape the attachments too. I want to extend my personal thanks to all the staff who kept the forum alive for so long - it's honestly a miracle that the site has stayed alive as long as it has, especially with the SSL cert stuff. Here's to the next Touhou haven. |
| Lebon14:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Please find a way to save the website. Please please please please. Why can't the host be able to make a copy of what's on the server if they are hosting it? Is it encrypted? Please there must be a way to keep the website alive. Somebody contact archive.org if they could run a crawler to save everything, scripts included. There MUST be a way to save the forum. The stories... the patches... the role playing... the secret santas... the help provided and solutions found... all... everything... no... a website that I love disappearing is my preservation needs' biggest fear. Please somebody... find a way to backup the forum database... At least... somebody... tell me there's a Discord server at least where we'll all be... |
| HTFCirno2000:
--- Quote from: Lebon14 on February 14, 2020, 05:06:18 AM ---NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Please find a way to save the website. Please please please please. Why can't the host be able to make a copy of what's on the server if they are hosting it? Is it encrypted? Please there must be a way to keep the website alive. Somebody contact archive.org if they could run a crawler to save everything, scripts included. There MUST be a way to save the forum. The stories... the patches... the role playing... the secret santas... the help provided and solutions found... all... everything... no... a website that I love disappearing is my preservation needs' biggest fear. Please somebody... find a way to backup the forum database... At least... somebody... tell me there's a Discord server at least where we'll all be... --- End quote --- The forum software is running on a virtual machine hosted in the cloud on a provider called Linode. This virtual machine is like a virtual computer inside another computer. All Linode does is provide said virtual computers and hosts it on their network. Meanwhile, the operating system inside of it is completely self-managed by whoever has actual console access and root login to the OS running inside the virtual machine. If the admins don't have any login credentials to the OS inside the virtual machine, then there isn't a way to actually get to the internal file system to get to the website. Even then, last i remembered reading, the website is hosted using 2 virtual machines, one having the forum software, and the other housing the actual database with all the posts. So it's not just sufficient to get to the server running the website, but also the database behind the website. Only thing us outsiders can really do is either: Manually download posts of interest using the browser's built in save function (takes forever) Setup a script to download the website verbatim (would be a MASSIVE task that could very well exceed hundreds of gigabytes with a large percentage of floof while the actual content would be a smaller portion of that). Make a web crawler that can parse what and where the actual posts and content are, and store that into a new database. (Hard, would take a lot of coding and algorithms, but theoretically doable) (EDIT 2/17/2020: Someone ACTUALLY did the last option. Thank you Infy♫ for proving it is actually doable. He has provides a .CSV database of the entire MoTK Corpus later in this thread.) Either way, it's a monumental task. IF anyone has the hardware, software and time to do it, there's a good chance they might very well archive it. |
| Lebon14:
--- Quote from: HTFCirno2000 on February 14, 2020, 05:17:50 AM ---The forum software is running on a virtual machine hosted in the cloud on a provider called Linode. This virtual machine is like a virtual computer inside another computer. All Linode does is provide said virtual computers and hosts it on their network. Meanwhile, the operating system inside of it is completely self-managed by whoever has actual console access and root login to the OS running inside the virtual machine. If the admins don't have any login credentials to the OS inside the virtual machine, then there isn't a way to actually get to the internal file system to get to the website. Even then, last i remembered reading, the website is hosted using 2 virtual machines, one having the forum software, and the other housing the actual database with all the posts. So it's not just sufficient to get to the server running the website, but also the database behind the website. Only thing us outsiders can really do is either: Manually download posts of interest using the browser's built in save function (takes forever) Setup a script to download the website verbatim (would be a MASSIVE task that could very well exceed hundreds of gigabytes with a large percentage of floof while the actual content would be a smaller portion of that). Make a web crawler that can parse what and where the actual posts and content are, and store that into a new database. (Hard, would take a lot of coding and algorithms, but theoretically doable) Either way, it's a monumental task. IF anyone has the hardware, software and time to do it, there's a good chance they might very well archive it. --- End quote --- I know what's a VM - I just didn't know the website was running using them, let alone 2. I know that saving a forum is a long and arduous process. I just hope that multiple people will be able to archive what's most important. Is there an official MotK Discord or will there be one? |
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