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EoSD hard advice
CP3:
@Kefit
- Gotta work on how I do at Sellaginella 9 then. Maybe I'm understimating the amount of resources I should arrive at stage 4 with. Or at least stop wasting them where I wouldn't.
- Yeah, I've seen your no focus Lunatic run, your comments on ReimuA on it and in general, and I've been lurking both here and in the old forum, and heard that ReimuB has the one of the toughest Patchouli battles. I'm considering switching to ReimuA, but I was worried about suffering lots at bosses with long healthbars. It appears that it's the exact opposite though, from what you said; the cards with long healthbars that I was very concerned with are ones that move a lot. Even so, I think I'll want to clear with ReimuB eventually, but switching to ReimuA to see how I perform is certainly an option. When I did use her, I have a feeling that I had an easier time at Voile as well (other than obviously Patchouli), somehow.
- I'm a bottom hugger by nature, one of those bad habits I've gotta get rid of. Hopefully the advice you people have given me plus practice will help.
- I've seen Emerald Megalith in Lunatic, in your MarisaA replay. The circling about hollow bullets plus all the crap flying around seem to make it almost impossible.
--- Quote from: Kefit on April 30, 2009, 12:25:22 AM ---As a final, general point, make it a goal to never, EVER die with bombs in stock. Think of the 1cc attempt as if you have 38 misses available to use - 8 deaths + ((9 x 3) + 3) bombs - all of which clear the screen of bullets. Dying with bombs in stock means that you just lost 2-4 of these available misses, rather than only one. This can really add up if you die with bombs in stock a few times.
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Right. This is also something to work on. I've improved, though.
It appears that I've actually chosen to start my Hard runs on one of the toughest Hards, or at least, one of the most unforgiving. I'm not actually sure, but I think IN and PCB give you more leeway to screw up, even if the former seemed to have harder patterns than EoSD in general.
@Drake:
- Bullets coming from different directions do give me trouble, so I guess it's good practice.
- Remilia's second noncard doesn't really give me trouble, though training to achieve a better success rate at them seems like a good idea.
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Thanks everyone for both quick replies and useful advice. Looks like it's time to spam stage practice some.
theshirn:
Remilia's second noncard is actually one of her easiest, I find. I start a bit to the right and stream left around it, then run up and around to shotgun her before she starts firing the two waves, both of which she leaves significant holes for. And her third is wonderfully stupid. Her opener is probably her worst attack; I can only really advise getting to know the bubbles' hitboxes very, very well - it makes it a lot easier.
--- Quote ---Finally, I don't know if Sakuya can stop time in the real world before I press bomb, or those knives have ridiculous hitboxes, but it's one or the other. ;D
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The only bullets I hate more than the knives are MoF lasers and Metal Fatigue Bullets. Unfortunately, Remilia's opener has Metal Fatigue Bullets, as does Young Demon Lord. Grrngh. At least Young Demon Lord gives you huge amounts of space to dodge the actual bullets on Hard; Lunatic screws with my head.
--- Quote ---Yeah, I read the other topic regarding those two. Scarlet Meister I've found relatively okay to handle in the couple of practice runs I've attempted, as long as you start on her right. I've also read that if she decides to give you a hug you're fucked either way, but ah well, that's just EoSD being EoSD.
Scarlet Gensokyo...pray that I have resources there and try to survive.
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Buh? I still can't capture Meister, and I've captured Gensokyo Hard five times or so now. I just always screw up the quick narrow dodges required. Gensokyo Hard, though, is just a pure bulletspam...it's just simple dodging of waves of slow-moving bullets. Crazy waves, but the principle is the same. Practice it a couple times...it's really not all that bad, I find.
Maybe you'd want to try MarisaA to avoid the Patchy fight? I find MarisaA's to be generally doable, even if I'm horrid at all of them, and your damage doesn't suffer horribly.
Azinth:
--- Quote ---- Yeah, I've seen your no focus Lunatic run, your comments on ReimuA on it and in general, and I've been lurking both here and in the old forum, and heard that ReimuB has the one of the toughest Patchouli battles. I'm considering switching to ReimuA, but I was worried about suffering lots at bosses with long healthbars. It appears that it's the exact opposite though, from what you said; the cards with long healthbars that I was very concerned with are ones that move a lot. Even so, I think I'll want to clear with ReimuB eventually, but switching to ReimuA to see how I perform is certainly an option. When I did use here, I have a feeling that I had an easier time at Voile as well (other than obviously Patchouli), somehow.
- I'm a bottom hugger by nature, one of those bad habits I've gotta get rid of. Hopefully the advice you people have given me plus practice will help.
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ReimuB's best asset is shotgunning. When you position yourself close enough to the enemy that all five of her red streams are hitting, she does the most damage in the game, even more than MarisaA. But to take advantage of this, you really have to be familiar with the stages and bosses so you can get up and hit the boss point-blank during the pauses in attacks.
If you spend most of the time at the bottom, and are still getting used to game in general, it might be better to use ReimuA for the reasons that Kefit mentioned.
Schpwuette:
--- Quote from: Drake on April 30, 2009, 12:32:28 AM ---KNIFE BULLETS HAVE CIRCULAR HITBOXES
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WHAAAAAAAAT???
Don't tell me... it's that weird white smudge in the middle of the sprite?
...
Hmm.
I feel... empowered by knowledge.
CP3:
--- Quote from: theshim on April 30, 2009, 12:51:28 AM ---The only bullets I hate more than the knives are MoF lasers and Metal Fatigue Bullets.
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I feel ya. Dropping a life at Nitori's last card used to make me rage, rage, rage.
--- Quote from: theshim on April 30, 2009, 12:51:28 AM ---Buh? I still can't capture Meister, and I've captured Gensokyo Hard five times or so now.
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Eh. Maybe I should clarify. By "relatively okay to handle" I meant "have captured it a couple of times and rarely lose more than one bomb to it", not that I can capture it regularly. On a real run I imagine I'd almost always have to bomb it, but having to bomb it only once is a big improvement on how I did at that damn card before.
I've done decently with MarisaA, getting as far as Remi's third card, but I think I'm more used to Reimu's movement.
@Azinth
I see. I've found ReimuB's biggest weakness is her bomb, so maybe switching to ReimuA is indeed a good idea.