This thread started out as halloween then BDSM then gendertalk then states

[helvetica]

Tights are superior to stockings but equal in my eyes to thighhighs.  I will admit Zettai Ryouki is indeed wonderful, but garter belts ruin it and make you look like a slut more than anything.

I don't like knee socks though or just over the knee.  Just looks too goofy.  Thighhighs at least tease you by flirting with the skirt edge for skin exposure while knee socks just bare the rather boring half of the leg.

[Nobu]

Tights are superior to stockings but equal in my eyes to thighhighs.  I will admit Zettai Ryouki is indeed wonderful, but garter belts ruin it and make you look like a slut more than anything.

Garter belts ruin Zettai Ryouiki like string bikinis ruin breasts. :\

[dustyjo]

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

[UncertainJakutten]

I think Jan is confusing physical gender with psychological gender. It's not something to get mad at the guy about, he's probably just uninformed as opposed to outright bigoted.

Well, it's my job to yell at him about it . Well, TSO's as well, but mine since I actually seem to have the backbone to argue it. Damn you college education making me a conscientious citizen!

To begin with, I shunned every single pr0n-related manga/anime thing that appeared in front of me, and yeah, that even included the lightest of fanservices.

YOU!? That's...HIGHLY IMPROBABLE!

(though, now that I think of it I rather avoided the stuff myself)

I suppose I should go back to addressing TSO as her/she then. :X

Like the candy?

I feel really bad about it, though... Like I shouldn't be uninformed. I'm in the process of questioning myself too, so to slip up like this feels more than a little humiliating... Even if it's just online.

I was a bit rough, I apologize. I see a lot of assholery on the intarnets

You should give yourself credit for actually wanting to get informed. I know plenty of people who'd be like "Don't gimme that pseudo-science mumbo jumbo". The fact that you were like "My bad" and asked questions is commendable.

This. Let it be known I don't include you in that assholery

I bet Nobu wants to nibble on goat cock

Well, I know I myself would try it at least once if it weren't illegal...

Goddammit, every American who tries this is DOING THIS WRONG.  They're supposed to be SOCKS, not STOCKINGS.  GET IT THE FUCK RIGHT

STOCKINGS = WITH A GARTER
SOCKS = ZETTAI RYOUIKI.  NO FUCKING GARTER.  BECAUSE THEY ARE SOCKS AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.

Thank you for the edumacational lesson...I will recall this

So yeah

[Nobu]

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

Maybe we could arrange something? Kinda like NForza's service, but kinkier. Hehe. :3

[dustyjo]

I bet Nobu wants to nibble on goat cock

Well, I know I myself would try it at least once if it weren't illegal...

I don't think it's illegal around here :V

Spoiler:

I've done things like this before oh godsfdgsdfhgfh

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

Maybe we could arrange something? Kinda like NForza's service, but kinkier. Hehe. :3

Maybe, but I've already found a place to order thighhigh socks from :V

[helvetica]

Sock Dreams or something like that is where I got all my tights and thighhighs.

[Greyn]

Sock Dreams or something like that is where I got all my tights and thighhighs.

You know...  For a moment there.....  I thought you meant you were literally getting your footwear from your dreams.  :V

I bet Nobu wants to nibble on goat cock

Well, I know I myself would try it at least once if it weren't illegal...

I don't think it's illegal around here :V

Oh UK.... The things I would do to you in bed... 

[Pesco]

Lame. Don't use a bed. Soft surfaces aren't good enough.

[♛ Apher-Forte]

I always wonder how it feels to perform sex on a tree.

[Menorah Jams, Pham]

OK fine.  Stockings = sheer-esque non-socks worn with or without garters.

Don't get me wrong, garters are hawt, but zettai ryouiki is something wonderful that should never, ever be trifled with, and it's sad that it is to such extent.

If elected ID, I will immediately put forth a bill before Congress to declare that all leg coverings worn over the knee and below the hem of the skirt be made of cotton or cotton/poly blends used for socks only! 

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

Oh hey, so I'm not the only one down here.

(And also, TSO is right, Sock Dreams = <3)

[Greyn]

Lame. Don't use a bed. Soft surfaces aren't good enough.

I actually meant bed in a more.... Figurative manner of speaking....

[Nobu]

OK fine.  Stockings = sheer-esque non-socks worn with or without garters.

Don't get me wrong, garters are hawt, but zettai ryouiki is something wonderful that should never, ever be trifled with, and it's sad that it is to such extent.

If elected ID, I will immediately put forth a bill before Congress to declare that all leg coverings worn over the knee and below the hem of the skirt be made of cotton or cotton/poly blends used for socks only!

In that case, i'll double my efforts to rise up the ladder and block you. Because I like cotton and cotton/poly blend leg coverings too, but I can't allow the taking away of leg covering diversity. Grr.

[Tengukami]

OK fine.  Stockings = sheer-esque non-socks worn with or without garters.

Don't get me wrong, garters are hawt, but zettai ryouiki is something wonderful that should never, ever be trifled with, and it's sad that it is to such extent.

If elected ID, I will immediately put forth a bill before Congress to declare that all leg coverings worn over the knee and below the hem of the skirt be made of cotton or cotton/poly blends used for socks only!

In that case, i'll double my efforts to rise up the ladder and block you. Because I like cotton and cotton/poly blend leg coverings too, but I can't allow the taking away of leg covering diversity. Grr.

Seconded.

[UncertainJakutten]

Oh UK.... The things I would do to you in bed... 

O rry ?

I actually meant bed in a more.... Figurative manner of speaking....

That's two. You are obligated to describe a bit of this situation to properly stimulate the imagination

[dustyjo]

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

Oh hey, so I'm not the only one down here.

(And also, TSO is right, Sock Dreams = <3)

So I'm not alone? 

[Jana]

I feel really bad about it, though... Like I shouldn't be uninformed. I'm in the process of questioning myself too, so to slip up like this feels more than a little humiliating... Even if it's just online.

I was a bit rough, I apologize. I see a lot of assholery on the intarnets

You should give yourself credit for actually wanting to get informed. I know plenty of people who'd be like "Don't gimme that pseudo-science mumbo jumbo". The fact that you were like "My bad" and asked questions is commendable.

This. Let it be known I don't include you in that assholery

It's all good, UK. I didn't really see it as assholery so much as putting me in my place, which is good. I do need to figure out my place anyway, so the help is appreciated.

Don't get me wrong, garters are hawt, but zettai ryouiki is something wonderful that should never, ever be trifled with, and it's sad that it is to such extent.

I agree with this statement 100%. I can't say more on it that hasn't already been said, I think.

[Menorah Jams, Pham]

In that case, i'll double my efforts to rise up the ladder and block you. Because I like cotton and cotton/poly blend leg coverings too, but I can't allow the taking away of leg covering diversity. Grr.

There is something wrong with you.  Clearly you missed the part where I said "under the hem of the skirt."  Zettai ryouiki exists in this fashion.  Garters are different, they're worn UNDER the clothing, that's what makes them hawt. 

You fail.

Clarification: I'm not here to take away leg covering diversity.  I like socks, I like stockings, I like garters, leg coverings for all!  But zettai ryouiki with anything other than socks, made from sock fabric, is not zettai ryouiki and cannot be claimed as such.  It's like how the name "champagne" is now restricted to sparkling wine made in the Champagne region of France, or how the town of Cheddar in England is moving to trademark Cheddar cheese. 

If you're wearing stockings they should be gartered, because goddammit, it's not zettai ryouiki if anything can be seen.  It's the fucking gap that does it, people, the GAP, and failing to sock properly means that you're depriving the rest of us.  It is unfair and should not be.

I'll put in an addendum to the bill that states garters are acceptable when worn with stockings in the zettai ryouiki style, but they must be worn together when worn.  Fair?

[Tengukami]

But what do you have against fabrics aside from cotton?

EDIT: Clarified, I see. K.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Halloween USA has all kinds of thigh highs on sale for under 5 dollars each. I'm raiding the place on my next paycheck.

They also have the perfect witches brooms in case I ever need to whip up a Marisa cosplay.

Sorry, there are no locations for ALABAMA.

 

Oh hey, so I'm not the only one down here.

(And also, TSO is right, Sock Dreams = <3)

So I'm not alone? 

Nope, at least not until I finish up this master's degree, heh.

[Menorah Jams, Pham]

But what do you have against fabrics aside from cotton?

I have an objection to when stockings are worn without garters.  See the above post.  They are trying, and thus failing, to bring forth zettai ryouiki.  That's my only objection. 

[UncertainJakutten]

It's all good, UK. I didn't really see it as assholery so much as putting me in my place, which is good. I do need to figure out my place anyway, so the help is appreciated.

But it's not my place to do that. Nor do I mean to "put you in your place".

[Tengukami]

But what do you have against fabrics aside from cotton?

I have an objection to when stockings are worn without garters.  See the above post.  They are trying, and thus failing, to bring forth zettai ryouiki.  That's my only objection. 

See, I don't see what the big deal about garters are, to be honest. And "zettai ryouiki" does not necessarily need to have garters involved. It sounds like the same argument people get into about the TRUE MEANING of tsundere or whatever. To each their own, you know?

[helvetica]

Hey, all of my thighhighs are satin or lycra/poly.  I have a pair of cotton knitted ones but I far prefer the lycra/poly ones.  I don't like sheer stuff though, opaque colors and textures are much better.

Zettai Ryouiki has nothing to do with the type of socks or stockings and everything to do with the gap between it and skirt.  Only reason garters fail is because they break the gap :<.

[dustyjo]

Sock Dreams or something like that is where I got all my tights and thighhighs.

Yeah that's the site.

[Menorah Jams, Pham]

Zettai Ryouiki has nothing to do with the type of socks or stockings and everything to do with the gap between it and skirt.  Only reason garters fail is because they break the gap :<.

That's exactly my point.  I couldn't have said it better.

Garters and zettai ryouiki are apples and oranges, they are different.  If you like zettai ryouiki, you don't have to like garters, and vice versa.  They share commonalities but they are not the same. 

It sounds like the same argument people get into about the TRUE MEANING of tsundere or whatever. To each their own, you know?

Wrong.  Zettai ryouiki have long since been codified, organized, and graded, the same way that food and drugs are. 

Arm yourself with knowledge

[Jana]

But it's not my place to do that. Nor do I mean to "put you in your place".

If you say so. Still, the help is appreciated, you know? It's harder than I thought, trying to figure this all out on my own, I mean.

[Greyn]

Oh UK.... The things I would do to you in bed... 

O rry ?

I actually meant bed in a more.... Figurative manner of speaking....

That's two. You are obligated to describe a bit of this situation to properly stimulate the imagination

How would you like to be my Thanksgiving Turkey basting in your own juices and receiving regular checkups that include probing with a rectal thermometer? 

[UncertainJakutten]

Oh UK.... The things I would do to you in bed... 

O rry ?

I actually meant bed in a more.... Figurative manner of speaking....

That's two. You are obligated to describe a bit of this situation to properly stimulate the imagination

How would you like to be my Thanksgiving Turkey basting in your own juices and receiving regular checkups that include probing with a rectal thermometer? 

That...could be fun actually.