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Dreamleaf: --- Quote from: Lunatic_Reimu on May 08, 2019, 11:16:39 AM ---Ahh ok, we play the games differently, I just stick to 1 official game and work my way up from Easy to Lunatic, and switch to the next game once Lunatic and Extra are complete. I find that it helps building up the difficulties like that cause by the time I get to Lunatic I would have gotten used to the stages and spell cards since I went through an easier version of them on Easy/Normal and mostly Hard. Ahh the Fantasy Kaleidoscope anime is brilliant. I saw the first 4 episodes (PCB and EoSD) and they’re done soooo well! So much love went into that project! That’s weird that Touhou 1 and 3 worked fine for you but 2, 4, and 5 gave you trouble :/ What emulator are you using? I used to use Anex on my old laptop but use T-98 Next on my new pc. I highly recommend T-98, has a wider range of instruments and gives more life to the music. Lol haha I completely know what you mean about getting killed by your own weapon in Touhou 1, brings back memories lol. You’ll get used to more control of the Yin Yan g orb though the more you play. Utilize the slide a lot, it really helps to avoid getting killed by your own orb. WOW dood, just wow. That’s some beautiful art you’ve got there. Well done. I saw a couple of them before, but there are definitely new ones which I’ve never seen which are absolutely gorgeous! Thanks for these! I’ll definitely save them when I get home! Ahh yeah, that happens to me too, usually I pair up the Extra with Lunatic to serve as my breaker, and I notice little progress gets done on Lunatic till I actually clear the Extra. I’ve heard of Touhou 15 being very difficult from another user. I haven’t experienced it yet myself though so I can’t judge. Yes Touhou 11 and 12 are known to be some of the hardest games in the series! And Koishi. . . well let’s just say I started playing Touhou once I stumbled upon her boss fight on Youtube over 5 years ago before I even knew what Touhou was. I was simply in awe watching it, and thought to myself ‘that looks ridiculously difficult, I don’t think I could beat that game. . .’ and that’s how I started searching up on Touhou and just fell in love with this marvelous wonderful world xD Well done on the Hard Touhou 15 clear btw ;) Keep it up! Getting some good progress in :) --- End quote --- Originally back when I was just playing PCB I was intending on trying to work my way up through the difficulties but it became clear after originally clearing normal that attempting hard was still above what I was capable of doing. I figured with enough practice I would eventually get it but I decided to start exploring normal mode in the other games just to keep things fresh while I built up my general playing skill. Tbh it wasn't until around December that I first felt confident enough to even seriously attempt a hard mode 1cc. Tbh it wasn't until I beat LoLK normal that I started feeling more comfortable stepping into the more difficulty content. I think doing it your way now would work alright for me since I have improved a fair bit since then. I did something like that with 9 where I beat it in normal, immediately went to hard and then immediately went to Lunatic mode after which did actually work rather well. I've been considering trying that a bit more with the other games lately. For the PC-98 games I was using Anex. I didn't look extensively into the issue though since I was planning on revisiting the PC-98 games at a later date once I had explored the main series games a bit more. I'll definitely check out T-98! As of now 2, 4 and 5 are the only main title games I have yet to play so it would be nice to be able to sit down with them soon :) I had a feeling you'd appreciate some of that art. I have my background image set up to cycle through Touhou images and sometimes it's just fun to put on some music and watch the background slideshow cycle through all this amazing art ^_^ I absolutely love 15. It's my favorite in the entire series and maybe my single favorite game of all time, even if it does make me suffer a lot (or maybe because of that?). Fighting Clownpiece in normal for the first time back when I was still learning the ropes was an experience I won't be forgetting let me tell you. Playing this once in normal mode resulted in the largest increase my skill and confidence levels gained in a short period of time, which is kind of ironic since the game spent long hours doing nothing but utterly destroying me and crushing my ego. I was baffled when I first played it because I had nearly a dozen normal 1ccs under my belt by that point and I couldn't believe how much harder this one was. I'm curious to see how 11 and 12 are going to stack up in terms of difficulty when I finally get around to going through them properly. Your story with Koishi reminds me of my experience in some ways. The first time I heard about this series was when I stumbled on a video of Lunatic Yuyuko from PCB and I remember bursting out laughing and saying "yeah, there's absolutely no way in hell I could or would ever do that". Time sure has a funny way of making fools of us doesn't it?  ;) Although it was actually that thought of "I could never do that" which motivated me to actually try the series.  I had spent nearly a decade dealing with severe depression. I was able to go through the motions in life but I was completely dead inside, I had no motivation whatsoever and waking up every day felt like torture. Things got especially bad last year and I hit a low where I genuinely just felt like nothing I did would ever matter and that trying didn't matter at all, and then the strangest thing happened, for the first time in nearly a decade I felt motivation, I wanted to prove myself wrong, I wanted to show that if I really put my mind to something I could in fact do it, and at that point I suddenly remembered this game I had seen many years ago of the Yuyuko fight which was what I considered one of the most difficult things I had ever seen someone do and I remembered myself seeing it and immediately believing I wasn't capable of doing that and I suddenly wanted nothing more then to show then that I could do it if I tried. That one thought has completely changed my life and I doubt I could ever properly explain to others the drastic impact playing this had on who I am and just how much this series means to me because of that. I know most people would probably think it silly to be so effected by a game, but to be fair I doubt most of them understand just how much depth this series has. One thing that makes me laugh though is showing people videos of gameplay for this series for the first time and always hearing "I couldn't ever do that" every time. It always make me smile. Little do they know.... Opps ended up going on another long somewhat offtopic spiel XD And thank you! I think now I'm going to be focusing on LoLKs extra stage more, and maybe give SA a shot in normal too. It'd be nice to get that and the UFO normal 1cc so I could say I've done all the post PC-98 era main games at least once in normal.

Lunatic_Reimu: --- Quote from: Dreamleaf on May 10, 2019, 12:00:46 AM ---Originally back when I was just playing PCB I was intending on trying to work my way up through the difficulties but it became clear after originally clearing normal that attempting hard was still above what I was capable of doing. I figured with enough practice I would eventually get it but I decided to start exploring normal mode in the other games just to keep things fresh while I built up my general playing skill. Tbh it wasn't until around December that I first felt confident enough to even seriously attempt a hard mode 1cc. Tbh it wasn't until I beat LoLK normal that I started feeling more comfortable stepping into the more difficulty content. I think doing it your way now would work alright for me since I have improved a fair bit since then. I did something like that with 9 where I beat it in normal, immediately went to hard and then immediately went to Lunatic mode after which did actually work rather well. I've been considering trying that a bit more with the other games lately. For the PC-98 games I was using Anex. I didn't look extensively into the issue though since I was planning on revisiting the PC-98 games at a later date once I had explored the main series games a bit more. I'll definitely check out T-98! As of now 2, 4 and 5 are the only main title games I have yet to play so it would be nice to be able to sit down with them soon :) I had a feeling you'd appreciate some of that art. I have my background image set up to cycle through Touhou images and sometimes it's just fun to put on some music and watch the background slideshow cycle through all this amazing art ^_^ I absolutely love 15. It's my favorite in the entire series and maybe my single favorite game of all time, even if it does make me suffer a lot (or maybe because of that?). Fighting Clownpiece in normal for the first time back when I was still learning the ropes was an experience I won't be forgetting let me tell you. Playing this once in normal mode resulted in the largest increase my skill and confidence levels gained in a short period of time, which is kind of ironic since the game spent long hours doing nothing but utterly destroying me and crushing my ego. I was baffled when I first played it because I had nearly a dozen normal 1ccs under my belt by that point and I couldn't believe how much harder this one was. I'm curious to see how 11 and 12 are going to stack up in terms of difficulty when I finally get around to going through them properly. Your story with Koishi reminds me of my experience in some ways. The first time I heard about this series was when I stumbled on a video of Lunatic Yuyuko from PCB and I remember bursting out laughing and saying "yeah, there's absolutely no way in hell I could or would ever do that". Time sure has a funny way of making fools of us doesn't it?  ;) Although it was actually that thought of "I could never do that" which motivated me to actually try the series.  I had spent nearly a decade dealing with severe depression. I was able to go through the motions in life but I was completely dead inside, I had no motivation whatsoever and waking up every day felt like torture. Things got especially bad last year and I hit a low where I genuinely just felt like nothing I did would ever matter and that trying didn't matter at all, and then the strangest thing happened, for the first time in nearly a decade I felt motivation, I wanted to prove myself wrong, I wanted to show that if I really put my mind to something I could in fact do it, and at that point I suddenly remembered this game I had seen many years ago of the Yuyuko fight which was what I considered one of the most difficult things I had ever seen someone do and I remembered myself seeing it and immediately believing I wasn't capable of doing that and I suddenly wanted nothing more then to show then that I could do it if I tried. That one thought has completely changed my life and I doubt I could ever properly explain to others the drastic impact playing this had on who I am and just how much this series means to me because of that. I know most people would probably think it silly to be so effected by a game, but to be fair I doubt most of them understand just how much depth this series has. One thing that makes me laugh though is showing people videos of gameplay for this series for the first time and always hearing "I couldn't ever do that" every time. It always make me smile. Little do they know.... Opps ended up going on another long somewhat offtopic spiel XD And thank you! I think now I'm going to be focusing on LoLKs extra stage more, and maybe give SA a shot in normal too. It'd be nice to get that and the UFO normal 1cc so I could say I've done all the post PC-98 era main games at least once in normal. --- End quote --- I think both methods have their own unique advantages. The way I do it will help in learning enemy placement, and how to deal with most of the attacks by the time you get to Lunatic cause you would have experienced them quite a few times by working your way through Easy, Normal and Hard. When I had just started Touhou 6 I was playing mostly on reflex, especially in stages 4 and 5. Now that I've gone through Easy, Normal, and 3 Hards (only 1 left and I go to Lunatic!!!! xD) I know the stages by heart and where to position myself to tackle the next part properly (mostly talking about stage 4 about those spinny things that aim at you and need to get into a stream for them). The way you do it has the advantage of yes, 1. keeping everything fresh, 2. you're facing a multitude of different attacks throughout the course of the whole series, so you're building up your confidence by having faced a huge variety of attacks. Yeah I get what you mean about feeling more comfortable now after facing a hard enemy like Clownpiece. You start feeling like you're capable of achieving more after attempting a more difficult feat than you're used to :) It's like the doors open up to you for more challenges. Check out T98 maybe it will solve your problems, but it's weird cause Anex should be the emulator that is the least resource heavy. Saying that though, my new PC had trouble with Anex, but it's what I used to use on my old laptop, so maybe compatibility varies between systems? You should notice more percussion in the PC98 games if you're using T98 over Anex which is always a bonus, and could play Touhou 2's alternate MIDI soundtrack. Damn right dood, that's quite a beautiful collection you got there, keep it up! I completely understand what you mean, just relaxing with some Touhou arranges while appreciating that marvelous art! While I love the art with attacks in it, I also really appreciate those that make you see what the girls are up to when they're not bullet dodging, like that image you linked with Reimu sitting near Marisa while holding her Hakkero with a beautiful Gensokyo path in the background. Wow, that's saying something dood, 15 must have really hooked you good! Hahaaha I understand that about not forgetting an enemy when you're still learning. Brings back memories of the first time I decided to try a Touhou game, I went for 7, looked really pretty with all the purple and cherry blossoms. Remember, never touched a Touhou game before, but was used to playing on the hardest difficulties on PlayStation games, so I said, screw Easy, let's go for Normal straight away (I wasn't going for Lunatic instantly, I had seen that Koishi fight so I know how difficult this series could get). I got to Stage 4 where you fight the Prismriver sisters, and Jeeeessssuuusss that was exhilarating trying to keep up with the 3 of them. My finger was welded onto the focus button haha I was so scared to move around lol. Ahh nostalgia. Anyway cause I'll sway off topic xD That's really interesting to know about 15, quite a step up in difficulty it seems. Best of luck with 11 and 12! :D Ahhh Yuyuko's fight certainly is beautiful, you had quite a nice introduction to the series with that beautiful theme of hers. Oh yes, the impossible is now possible for us haha! xD Yeah same here, I was always a challenge seeker, and when I saw this series I thought I couldn't beat it, so I wanted to try it. It wasn't just the difficulty that dragged me here though, I just love the concept of magical anime girls flying around shooting bullets at each other (I'm a massive anime fan, especially these superpowered ones like Dragon Ball, and magical girl like Nanoha, Precure and Sailor Moon), Pair that with the soul-saving music this series has, and well, let's just say that ZUN's a damn genius xD Wow, I'm sorry to hear about your depression, I know someone that's going through something like that and it's clearly not a pretty sight :( On the plus side, I'm glad to hear that Touhou was your saving grace! Try to always keep motivated so you don't fall back into that horrible dark place. There's a wonderful world to explore (in Touhou I mean, real life sucks xD), with all the official games and fan games, that you could easily stay motivated with the series as long as you keep striving for more and always keep the series close to your heart. Oh no believe me dood, it's not silly at all, I fully understand what you mean about how this series could change your life, cause it did the same thing to me. It literally is my purpose to live, it's just so wonderful, the characters are amazing, and I feel like there's still so much to see and experience, and finally, achieve! As you said, it may sound silly to others to make your life revolve around a game, but I'm dead serious here, and wouldn't want it any other way either. I'm glad you feel the same way, cause I know what a wonderful feeling it is :) Hahaha yeah, remember we were like these people once :P Haha no worries about going off topic, was an interesting read :) Keep at it as always my friend, good things will come to you with the devotion you've got to this series! Ahh close to having all Normals cleared! Best of luck with the hardest 2, I believe in you ;) Utsuho is a beautiful fight also, and Byakuren's music is to die for.

Dreamleaf: --- Quote from: Lunatic_Reimu on May 10, 2019, 06:09:03 PM ---I think both methods have their own unique advantages. The way I do it will help in learning enemy placement, and how to deal with most of the attacks by the time you get to Lunatic cause you would have experienced them quite a few times by working your way through Easy, Normal and Hard. When I had just started Touhou 6 I was playing mostly on reflex, especially in stages 4 and 5. Now that I've gone through Easy, Normal, and 3 Hards (only 1 left and I go to Lunatic!!!! xD) I know the stages by heart and where to position myself to tackle the next part properly (mostly talking about stage 4 about those spinny things that aim at you and need to get into a stream for them). The way you do it has the advantage of yes, 1. keeping everything fresh, 2. you're facing a multitude of different attacks throughout the course of the whole series, so you're building up your confidence by having faced a huge variety of attacks. Yeah I get what you mean about feeling more comfortable now after facing a hard enemy like Clownpiece. You start feeling like you're capable of achieving more after attempting a more difficult feat than you're used to :) It's like the doors open up to you for more challenges. Check out T98 maybe it will solve your problems, but it's weird cause Anex should be the emulator that is the least resource heavy. Saying that though, my new PC had trouble with Anex, but it's what I used to use on my old laptop, so maybe compatibility varies between systems? You should notice more percussion in the PC98 games if you're using T98 over Anex which is always a bonus, and could play Touhou 2's alternate MIDI soundtrack. Damn right dood, that's quite a beautiful collection you got there, keep it up! I completely understand what you mean, just relaxing with some Touhou arranges while appreciating that marvelous art! While I love the art with attacks in it, I also really appreciate those that make you see what the girls are up to when they're not bullet dodging, like that image you linked with Reimu sitting near Marisa while holding her Hakkero with a beautiful Gensokyo path in the background. Wow, that's saying something dood, 15 must have really hooked you good! Hahaaha I understand that about not forgetting an enemy when you're still learning. Brings back memories of the first time I decided to try a Touhou game, I went for 7, looked really pretty with all the purple and cherry blossoms. Remember, never touched a Touhou game before, but was used to playing on the hardest difficulties on PlayStation games, so I said, screw Easy, let's go for Normal straight away (I wasn't going for Lunatic instantly, I had seen that Koishi fight so I know how difficult this series could get). I got to Stage 4 where you fight the Prismriver sisters, and Jeeeessssuuusss that was exhilarating trying to keep up with the 3 of them. My finger was welded onto the focus button haha I was so scared to move around lol. Ahh nostalgia. Anyway cause I'll sway off topic xD That's really interesting to know about 15, quite a step up in difficulty it seems. Best of luck with 11 and 12! :D Ahhh Yuyuko's fight certainly is beautiful, you had quite a nice introduction to the series with that beautiful theme of hers. Oh yes, the impossible is now possible for us haha! xD Yeah same here, I was always a challenge seeker, and when I saw this series I thought I couldn't beat it, so I wanted to try it. It wasn't just the difficulty that dragged me here though, I just love the concept of magical anime girls flying around shooting bullets at each other (I'm a massive anime fan, especially these superpowered ones like Dragon Ball, and magical girl like Nanoha, Precure and Sailor Moon), Pair that with the soul-saving music this series has, and well, let's just say that ZUN's a damn genius xD Wow, I'm sorry to hear about your depression, I know someone that's going through something like that and it's clearly not a pretty sight :( On the plus side, I'm glad to hear that Touhou was your saving grace! Try to always keep motivated so you don't fall back into that horrible dark place. There's a wonderful world to explore (in Touhou I mean, real life sucks xD), with all the official games and fan games, that you could easily stay motivated with the series as long as you keep striving for more and always keep the series close to your heart. Oh no believe me dood, it's not silly at all, I fully understand what you mean about how this series could change your life, cause it did the same thing to me. It literally is my purpose to live, it's just so wonderful, the characters are amazing, and I feel like there's still so much to see and experience, and finally, achieve! As you said, it may sound silly to others to make your life revolve around a game, but I'm dead serious here, and wouldn't want it any other way either. I'm glad you feel the same way, cause I know what a wonderful feeling it is :) Hahaha yeah, remember we were like these people once :P Haha no worries about going off topic, was an interesting read :) Keep at it as always my friend, good things will come to you with the devotion you've got to this series! Ahh close to having all Normals cleared! Best of luck with the hardest 2, I believe in you ;) Utsuho is a beautiful fight also, and Byakuren's music is to die for. --- End quote --- The nice thing about having tried all the post PC-98 main games is I can kind of pick and choose which sort of ones I want to work on as I go now based on what I'm looking for at the time, although I do want to experience them all fully eventually regardless. The other thing was this way I could explore the characters/story a bit more as well. it definitely does feel like more doors keep opening as I play! Even just working on LoLK so much lately has left me feeling like I can accomplish even more then a few weeks ago. I think focusing on some of the extra stages more was a good idea for my current skill level to help sharpen my skills which will really come into play in some of the various games' lunatic modes. Oh that definitely sounds like it could be a plus to get more of the percussion! It might be a compatibility issue. I know when trying to run really old games in the past it sometimes requires a bit of tinkering to get working. It might be a case where it's a super easy fix but I just haven't checked into it. I'll try the T98 first though and see if that works :) I love the variety of the art! I wanted to include some different kind of ones which is why I made sure to throw in the one you mentioned as well as ones like the psychedelic one and the black and white one in the store. Thanks for indulging me and letting me share! ^_^ PCB was the first game I started with as well! I still remember the first time I stepped into stage 4 in that game which was a rude awakening XD I mean it was already tough enough for me before that but stage 4 really scared me and could really make or break my attempts when I first started going for my normal 1cc credit. Even when attempting it in hard mode a while back there was a couple moments that really felt like a brick wall to me back then. I'm curious to see how it is once I step back to it and give it a try now that I've improved so much. The Prismriver sisters were pretty brutal but I got to say normal Clownpiece in point device mode for the first time was something else entirely. 15 is one of the first games I skipped easy mode and went straight to normal and it was quite the shock. I'm glad I did it but I admit I still get slight PTSD from my original time fighting that monster :D Funny enough some of her attacks legitimately felt easier in hard mode then it did normal. Doremy in hard mode was a bit scary for a stage 3 boss though. I've always enjoyed a good challenge but I didn't use to go out of my way to look for them. I will a bit more nowadays. I like a lot of the old style arcade games like Super Ghouls and Ghosts, Battletoads or even newer ones like Cuphead, Hollow Knight or Undertale (all fantastic games btw) which are challenging and can be punishing but rewarding if you know what you're doing. Although these days it's hard to break away from anything that isn't Touhou :) Big anime fan here too! Have you by chance ever seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica? Easily my favorite anime and arguably my favorite series in general before I found Touhou. I can't help but feel it would be right up the alley of a lot of Touhou fans. It's a bit darker than most mohou shoujo animes but it has an extremely good story, animation and music! I also recently watched one called Flip Flappers which was quite wonderful. Definitely agreed on ZUN being a genius too! It's actually kind of scary how intelligent he can be. Thank you for letting me share all that! I don't normally get too personal online but I don't really get to talk to others about this series who can understand why I love it so much so it's nice to get to open up a bit about it. Looking back now I don't really regret any of it because tbh I doubt I would have discovered this series otherwise. I could have easily gone my whole life without even knowing what I was missing out on which is a scary thought indeed! :ohdear: Byakuren has such a wonderful theme. Her theme, Shinmyoumaru's, Kanako's and Junko's are my favorites out of the final stage bosses. The Utsuho fight just stressed me out a ton even in easy mode XD It's definitely a cool fight though and I think the final spellcard she uses is a pretty neat one. I'm scared of Shou from 12, curvy lasers are not particularly my forte but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it >.> Small update on 15, so I've been working a bit more on the extra stage the last couple days and I'm having a blast with it. I've gone from being able to barely get to the mid stage boss to being able to get to even being able to make it around 13 minutes or so in before I lose my first life if I'm doing well and don't make a dumb mistake (this can admittedly still happen a fair bit). This extra stage seems significantly longer then the others I've done/attempted so I'm finding I really can't rely on my limited resources all that much. It's almost like a whole other game within the game. It's kind of cool how I've done the earlier parts so many times that I can actually beat them relatively consistently now even though just a few days ago some of these still felt ridiculously hard. It's still a slow crawl but it's nice seeing your progress over time, like the first time you get past the mid boss with all your lives and bombs still, or the first time you get to the extra stage boss with all your resources and whatnot. I still got like 6 of the bosses spellcards I haven't even seen yet but I'm getting there. Doing this really has me wanting to check out some of the other games extra stages afterwords too.

Lunatic_Reimu: --- Quote from: Dreamleaf on May 14, 2019, 06:33:38 AM --- The nice thing about having tried all the post PC-98 main games is I can kind of pick and choose which sort of ones I want to work on as I go now based on what I'm looking for at the time, although I do want to experience them all fully eventually regardless. The other thing was this way I could explore the characters/story a bit more as well. it definitely does feel like more doors keep opening as I play! Even just working on LoLK so much lately has left me feeling like I can accomplish even more then a few weeks ago. I think focusing on some of the extra stages more was a good idea for my current skill level to help sharpen my skills which will really come into play in some of the various games' lunatic modes. Oh that definitely sounds like it could be a plus to get more of the percussion! It might be a compatibility issue. I know when trying to run really old games in the past it sometimes requires a bit of tinkering to get working. It might be a case where it's a super easy fix but I just haven't checked into it. I'll try the T98 first though and see if that works :) I love the variety of the art! I wanted to include some different kind of ones which is why I made sure to throw in the one you mentioned as well as ones like the psychedelic one and the black and white one in the store. Thanks for indulging me and letting me share! ^_^ PCB was the first game I started with as well! I still remember the first time I stepped into stage 4 in that game which was a rude awakening XD I mean it was already tough enough for me before that but stage 4 really scared me and could really make or break my attempts when I first started going for my normal 1cc credit. Even when attempting it in hard mode a while back there was a couple moments that really felt like a brick wall to me back then. I'm curious to see how it is once I step back to it and give it a try now that I've improved so much. The Prismriver sisters were pretty brutal but I got to say normal Clownpiece in point device mode for the first time was something else entirely. 15 is one of the first games I skipped easy mode and went straight to normal and it was quite the shock. I'm glad I did it but I admit I still get slight PTSD from my original time fighting that monster :D Funny enough some of her attacks legitimately felt easier in hard mode then it did normal. Doremy in hard mode was a bit scary for a stage 3 boss though. I've always enjoyed a good challenge but I didn't use to go out of my way to look for them. I will a bit more nowadays. I like a lot of the old style arcade games like Super Ghouls and Ghosts, Battletoads or even newer ones like Cuphead, Hollow Knight or Undertale (all fantastic games btw) which are challenging and can be punishing but rewarding if you know what you're doing. Although these days it's hard to break away from anything that isn't Touhou :) Big anime fan here too! Have you by chance ever seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica? Easily my favorite anime and arguably my favorite series in general before I found Touhou. I can't help but feel it would be right up the alley of a lot of Touhou fans. It's a bit darker than most mohou shoujo animes but it has an extremely good story, animation and music! I also recently watched one called Flip Flappers which was quite wonderful. Definitely agreed on ZUN being a genius too! It's actually kind of scary how intelligent he can be. Thank you for letting me share all that! I don't normally get too personal online but I don't really get to talk to others about this series who can understand why I love it so much so it's nice to get to open up a bit about it. Looking back now I don't really regret any of it because tbh I doubt I would have discovered this series otherwise. I could have easily gone my whole life without even knowing what I was missing out on which is a scary thought indeed! :ohdear: Byakuren has such a wonderful theme. Her theme, Shinmyoumaru's, Kanako's and Junko's are my favorites out of the final stage bosses. The Utsuho fight just stressed me out a ton even in easy mode XD It's definitely a cool fight though and I think the final spellcard she uses is a pretty neat one. I'm scared of Shou from 12, curvy lasers are not particularly my forte but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it >.> Small update on 15, so I've been working a bit more on the extra stage the last couple days and I'm having a blast with it. I've gone from being able to barely get to the mid stage boss to being able to get to even being able to make it around 13 minutes or so in before I lose my first life if I'm doing well and don't make a dumb mistake (this can admittedly still happen a fair bit). This extra stage seems significantly longer then the others I've done/attempted so I'm finding I really can't rely on my limited resources all that much. It's almost like a whole other game within the game. It's kind of cool how I've done the earlier parts so many times that I can actually beat them relatively consistently now even though just a few days ago some of these still felt ridiculously hard. It's still a slow crawl but it's nice seeing your progress over time, like the first time you get past the mid boss with all your lives and bombs still, or the first time you get to the extra stage boss with all your resources and whatnot. I still got like 6 of the bosses spellcards I haven't even seen yet but I'm getting there. Doing this really has me wanting to check out some of the other games extra stages afterwords too. --- End quote --- Yes it definitely has it?s advantages playing the games the way you did it, it opened up the Touhou world more to you, and you met a huge variety of characters. This also makes it easier to relate when reading ZUN?s print works, there are some characters in those which I haven?t faced yet in the games, so you?ll bond / feel more immersed with them than I would. Looking forward to meeting them all though :D Yep, I also agree with you being able to pick and choose which to go for since you experienced them all. Similar thought I have in my mind for the future, I currently keep a checklist of each No Bomb run I hit, my main goal is No Bombing Easy, Normal, Hard and Extra with all characters, then No Bombing Lunatic with Reimu, and I?ll pick and choose other characters to Lunatic No Bomb with while I?m on that game (depends how long it will take me, Touhou 6 only has 4 characters so I?ll do it with all 4, but then Touhou 3 has 9 characters, Touhou 8 has 12 characters, and Touhou 9 has more than that!! That will take me too long on one game and I want to experience the other games also). When I would have beaten all the games, I could look back at that checklist and see which ones are empty, and then decide which I feel like working on at that moment, to check something else off that list :) Yes I agree with you on experiencing LoLK will open up your skill level since it?s tough, my skill level took a massive boost when I played Seihou 1 (No Bombing that was insane, you only get 5 lives for the whole game, and the Stage 4 boss is terrifying, and final boss Vivit has 3 forms), and also Touhou 3 really helped since it?s all randomly generated and requires more reflexes than memorization. Extras will definitely help your skill level if you?re playing on Normal / Hard mostly, IIRC Extra difficulty is rated somewhere between Hard and Lunatic. Definitely, I used to use Anex before cause my old laptop couldn?t run T98, and the difference in percussion is clearly visible, makes the music feel more alive! :D Good luck on getting T98 working, I imagine you found the set up guide for it on the forums? Here it is incase: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6549.0 The English patch pack for the PC-98 games also has the same information but done as screenshots instead. Really hope you could get this working mate, Touhou 2 and 5 were wondrous, especially meeting Marisa for the first time! (She had short red hair back then!) Oh definitely, the art is magical, and so immersive, I feel like it really breathes life into the characters. Thank you for sharing haha, not me for indulging you :P Ahhh great minds think alike then ;) Haha, yeah Touhou 7 really has something that drew me in, everything about it is awesome, the music is to die for, the story with Yuyuko trying to revive herself, lots of colourful attacks, it?s just brilliant. Well I reckon after the experiences you had with Touhou 15 and the Extra, I think you?ll break through that brick wall now ;) Lol @ the PTSD from fighting Clownpiece before, and also referring to her as ?fighting that monster? haha. Hahaha I wonder if I?ll get the same symptoms with the Prismriver sisters. . . Ahh, regarding Doremy being a tough Stage 3 boss, that isn?t the first time it happened, I?ve read people saying that Keine in Touhou 8 feels more like a Stage 4 boss than a Stage 3 one. Those are quite some good games you mentioned. I didn?t play them, cause as you said ?it?s hard to break away from anything that isn?t Touhou?, but I did play one of the Ghosts and Goblins in the past, and a friend of mine owns Hollow Knight, looks like a really good game, so I know what it?s like, and everyone knows what Undertale is at this point. Yes I?ve definitely heard of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, my sister?s boyfriend says it?s one of the best anime he?s seen, and also stated as you said, that it?s a dark version of magical girl. I definitely have to check it out at some point (got a HUGE anime list to watch). Thanks for also mentioning Flip Flappers, never heard of that one, just googled it and it?s magical girl so that?s always good :) I just finished Little Witch Academia yesterday, was brilliant, really enjoyed it, main character is such a klutz, so loud and so lovable! xD Highly recommended if you haven? watched it, and got quite a plot twist/surprise at the final episodes. Haha definitely agree with you about it being scary about how much of a genius ZUN actually is, he really is a marvelous person to have created such a wonderful world mostly on his own, with the programming of the games, that soul-saving music, and even his art took quite a step up now too! (Reimu in the character select screen for Touhou 17 is just tooooo cute xD) Sure mate, talk all you want about it, I don?t mind at all. It?s actually nice for me to read and share as well, all of my friends don?t play Touhou, while they watch me play it sometimes, and listen to me talk about it, it?s not the same as talking to someone that knows the heartache and toil that goes into hitting that 1cc, and the adrenaline rush you feel being surrounded by all those bullets xD Oh yes, definitely a scary thought indeed not discovering Touhou, my life literally changed when I discovered it, I can?t ever imagine going back to a time when I didn?t know what it was. My only regret is that I didn?t discover it sooner, I had to be 25 years old to find it :?( That really would be a sad and scary thought ?going your whole life without it and not knowing what you?re missing?, and I feel sorry for those that don?t find it :( This series is so wonderful, it really feels like it brought back that magic and spark in my life. I?ve never felt so immersed in something before, even after 5 years of basically being Touhou-exclusive, if anything, I got even more addicted / obsessed as time went by, rather than losing interest in it. Oh yes definitely about Byakuren?s theme, check out dBu?s arrange of it called White Lotus if you haven?t already, simply wow. My eyes misted up and tears almost rolled off my cheeks the first time I heard it, it?s just so beautiful and heavenly, it really is the definition of soul-saving music in my opinion. Quite a good line up of final boss theme?s you got there :) I also love Yuyuko?s theme as a final boss theme, both the theme for her main fight, and also when she?s doing her final spell card are just simply beautiful. Hahaha yes, Utsuho is very scary, and her final card really is cool with the way it draws you in. Ahh curvy lasers, I don?t think anyone enjoys those xD And lasers are more annoying than a bullet cause they?re usually longer, so it?s not just that initial tap and it passed you, need to be careful that you don?t need to tap back cause you?ll crash into it xD You?ll get it more with practice don?t worry :D 13 mins and the Extra isn?t complete yet? Must be a longer Extra then as you?re saying, the ones I?ve faced are around 11 ? 14 mins in total. Well done though getting so far in without losing a life! Uhhh I hate those ?dumb mistakes? as you called them, you just take it for granted sometimes and *boom*, clip-death. Happens to the best of us mate, don?t worry about it too much, especially when you?re having an off day. Yeah that?s what makes the learning process fun in Touhou, you just keep attempting something, eventually you?ll find your way of doing it, and something which was taking a life for you more times than not suddenly becomes easy/trivial/manageable :) Keep pushing, you?ll get to experience the other 6 spell cards don?t worry :) I?m currently working on Touhou 6 Hard No Bombs Marisa B, and Extra No Bombs with Reimu A, and yeah so far I?m getting to Flandre?s 7th spell, so there are another 3 cards which I haven?t experienced yet, looking forward to them!! Getting there for the first time, facing a spell card and not knowing what to fully expect / how to deal with it!! Ahhh such a wonderful feeling :) Oh yes definitely play the other games? Extras, they?re usually a brutal but fun fight with their quirks and gimmicks :) First time facing midboss Patchouli?s 2nd spell in the Touhou 6 Extra with bullets circling around me and closing in like a noose was awesome: 'Aaaaaa panic!! Where do I go?? Wtf is going on?!?!!?! Bullets usually go down and off-screen!!' xD

Dreamleaf: --- Quote from: Lunatic_Reimu on May 18, 2019, 10:05:26 AM ---Yes it definitely has it’s advantages playing the games the way you did it, it opened up the Touhou world more to you, and you met a huge variety of characters. This also makes it easier to relate when reading ZUN’s print works, there are some characters in those which I haven’t faced yet in the games, so you’ll bond / feel more immersed with them than I would. Looking forward to meeting them all though :D Yep, I also agree with you being able to pick and choose which to go for since you experienced them all. Similar thought I have in my mind for the future, I currently keep a checklist of each No Bomb run I hit, my main goal is No Bombing Easy, Normal, Hard and Extra with all characters, then No Bombing Lunatic with Reimu, and I’ll pick and choose other characters to Lunatic No Bomb with while I’m on that game (depends how long it will take me, Touhou 6 only has 4 characters so I’ll do it with all 4, but then Touhou 3 has 9 characters, Touhou 8 has 12 characters, and Touhou 9 has more than that!! That will take me too long on one game and I want to experience the other games also). When I would have beaten all the games, I could look back at that checklist and see which ones are empty, and then decide which I feel like working on at that moment, to check something else off that list :) Yes I agree with you on experiencing LoLK will open up your skill level since it’s tough, my skill level took a massive boost when I played Seihou 1 (No Bombing that was insane, you only get 5 lives for the whole game, and the Stage 4 boss is terrifying, and final boss Vivit has 3 forms), and also Touhou 3 really helped since it’s all randomly generated and requires more reflexes than memorization. Extras will definitely help your skill level if you’re playing on Normal / Hard mostly, IIRC Extra difficulty is rated somewhere between Hard and Lunatic. Definitely, I used to use Anex before cause my old laptop couldn’t run T98, and the difference in percussion is clearly visible, makes the music feel more alive! :D Good luck on getting T98 working, I imagine you found the set up guide for it on the forums? Here it is incase: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6549.0 The English patch pack for the PC-98 games also has the same information but done as screenshots instead. Really hope you could get this working mate, Touhou 2 and 5 were wondrous, especially meeting Marisa for the first time! (She had short red hair back then!) Oh definitely, the art is magical, and so immersive, I feel like it really breathes life into the characters. Thank you for sharing haha, not me for indulging you :P Ahhh great minds think alike then ;) Haha, yeah Touhou 7 really has something that drew me in, everything about it is awesome, the music is to die for, the story with Yuyuko trying to revive herself, lots of colourful attacks, it’s just brilliant. Well I reckon after the experiences you had with Touhou 15 and the Extra, I think you’ll break through that brick wall now ;) Lol @ the PTSD from fighting Clownpiece before, and also referring to her as ‘fighting that monster’ haha. Hahaha I wonder if I’ll get the same symptoms with the Prismriver sisters. . . Ahh, regarding Doremy being a tough Stage 3 boss, that isn’t the first time it happened, I’ve read people saying that Keine in Touhou 8 feels more like a Stage 4 boss than a Stage 3 one. Those are quite some good games you mentioned. I didn’t play them, cause as you said ‘it’s hard to break away from anything that isn’t Touhou’, but I did play one of the Ghosts and Goblins in the past, and a friend of mine owns Hollow Knight, looks like a really good game, so I know what it’s like, and everyone knows what Undertale is at this point. Yes I’ve definitely heard of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, my sister’s boyfriend says it’s one of the best anime he’s seen, and also stated as you said, that it’s a dark version of magical girl. I definitely have to check it out at some point (got a HUGE anime list to watch). Thanks for also mentioning Flip Flappers, never heard of that one, just googled it and it’s magical girl so that’s always good :) I just finished Little Witch Academia yesterday, was brilliant, really enjoyed it, main character is such a klutz, so loud and so lovable! xD Highly recommended if you haven’ watched it, and got quite a plot twist/surprise at the final episodes. Haha definitely agree with you about it being scary about how much of a genius ZUN actually is, he really is a marvelous person to have created such a wonderful world mostly on his own, with the programming of the games, that soul-saving music, and even his art took quite a step up now too! (Reimu in the character select screen for Touhou 17 is just tooooo cute xD) Sure mate, talk all you want about it, I don’t mind at all. It’s actually nice for me to read and share as well, all of my friends don’t play Touhou, while they watch me play it sometimes, and listen to me talk about it, it’s not the same as talking to someone that knows the heartache and toil that goes into hitting that 1cc, and the adrenaline rush you feel being surrounded by all those bullets xD Oh yes, definitely a scary thought indeed not discovering Touhou, my life literally changed when I discovered it, I can’t ever imagine going back to a time when I didn’t know what it was. My only regret is that I didn’t discover it sooner, I had to be 25 years old to find it :’( That really would be a sad and scary thought ‘going your whole life without it and not knowing what you’re missing’, and I feel sorry for those that don’t find it :( This series is so wonderful, it really feels like it brought back that magic and spark in my life. I’ve never felt so immersed in something before, even after 5 years of basically being Touhou-exclusive, if anything, I got even more addicted / obsessed as time went by, rather than losing interest in it. Oh yes definitely about Byakuren’s theme, check out dBu’s arrange of it called White Lotus if you haven’t already, simply wow. My eyes misted up and tears almost rolled off my cheeks the first time I heard it, it’s just so beautiful and heavenly, it really is the definition of soul-saving music in my opinion. Quite a good line up of final boss theme’s you got there :) I also love Yuyuko’s theme as a final boss theme, both the theme for her main fight, and also when she’s doing her final spell card are just simply beautiful. Hahaha yes, Utsuho is very scary, and her final card really is cool with the way it draws you in. Ahh curvy lasers, I don’t think anyone enjoys those xD And lasers are more annoying than a bullet cause they’re usually longer, so it’s not just that initial tap and it passed you, need to be careful that you don’t need to tap back cause you’ll crash into it xD You’ll get it more with practice don’t worry :D 13 mins and the Extra isn’t complete yet? Must be a longer Extra then as you’re saying, the ones I’ve faced are around 11 – 14 mins in total. Well done though getting so far in without losing a life! Uhhh I hate those ‘dumb mistakes’ as you called them, you just take it for granted sometimes and *boom*, clip-death. Happens to the best of us mate, don’t worry about it too much, especially when you’re having an off day. Yeah that’s what makes the learning process fun in Touhou, you just keep attempting something, eventually you’ll find your way of doing it, and something which was taking a life for you more times than not suddenly becomes easy/trivial/manageable :) Keep pushing, you’ll get to experience the other 6 spell cards don’t worry :) I’m currently working on Touhou 6 Hard No Bombs Marisa B, and Extra No Bombs with Reimu A, and yeah so far I’m getting to Flandre’s 7th spell, so there are another 3 cards which I haven’t experienced yet, looking forward to them!! Getting there for the first time, facing a spell card and not knowing what to fully expect / how to deal with it!! Ahhh such a wonderful feeling :) Oh yes definitely play the other games’ Extras, they’re usually a brutal but fun fight with their quirks and gimmicks :) First time facing midboss Patchouli’s 2nd spell in the Touhou 6 Extra with bullets circling around me and closing in like a noose was awesome: 'Aaaaaa panic!! Where do I go?? Wtf is going on?!?!!?! Bullets usually go down and off-screen!!' xD --- End quote --- Even if you look at the story content we have I think 27 games with a 28th coming out, multiple printed works and whatnot so I did kind of just want to jump into some of the story content a bit, at least when it came to the main games. When it comes to the printed works and spinoff games I'm willing to take things a bit slower and meet the characters as they show up (like I haven't met Kokoro properly ingame but I have seen her in Forbidden Scrollery and fanart and whatnot). I can see why you go about the no bomb runs like you do with going through the lower difficulties/characters/shot types and just kind of building up to and finishing with that Lunatic Reimu no bomb run and then just whatever other characters you might find interesting. I'd definitely want to pick and choose a bit with games like 8 or 9 too with how many different ones there is XD I wouldn't want to do all the singles in 8 with a no bomb run, although it could be interesting too try a few of them since the singles gameplay really does change up how you need to deal with a lot of the attacks in 8. And jeeze, I can imagine the games with more limited lives must be scary on a no bomb run! I believe 3 and 9 are similar in that sense where there's far more emphasis on reflexes over memorization. It's one reason I focused on 9 for my first lunatic/extra 1cc since I felt like only needing to rely on my reflexes and intuition made things a bit simpler for me. It still requires me to constantly doing quick plans but it's a lot less worrying about certain spellcards and more trying to control the flow of the fight. I did check out the T98 and I was having the same issue with 2, 4 and 5 so I figured it might be a case where the game files themselves were corrupted. I tried finding another package for the games and tried that and it seems to work, only thing is these ones aren't translated, but at least now I know it was the games themselves and not the anex or T98. Now I just need to sit down and figure out how to patch the games to English. I found a guide for it but I haven't sat down and tried it yet, but at least I know the issue was with the games and not the emulator. And yes! I think 7 is a fantastic intro the series and I really need to give it credit for being able to initially hook me onto a genre I never thought I'd be able to get into. The gimmick is very noobie friendly and in general it's just an all around really solid Touhou game and it also has some of the more iconic characters within the series. Plus it lets me play as Sakuya so big plus there :)  If you ever do decide to check out Madoka Magica just prepare to strap yourself in because it's a little bit more of a ride than most shows within the genre. Completely worth it though! It's one of those stories that just has so much love and care put into it at every angle from the animation to the music and the story. And yes! I have seen Little Witch Academia :) I enjoyed it a lot! I watched another anime by the same studio called Kill la Kill many years ago and really liked it so when LWA first was announced I was excited and watched it as it aired. Just like in Touhou that's one of those series where all the characters are so likeable. Even the side characters are great :D and ditto on the huge anime list to watch... More then I could ever possibly finish in fact. It's why usually I prefer the shorter but sweet kind of animes rather than the ones that span hundreds of episodes and take forever to watch. Also as a side note I've always liked ZUNs art, even when it was admittedly kind of bad it still had a lot of charm to it :) He has gotten a lot better over the years though. I still need to try 17 myself! I noticed when the demo was released but I figured I'd wait until I could play it translated. If it makes you feel any better I was 29 when I first found it so I feel your pain! On the one hand it's kind of exciting because there's just soooo much I haven't experienced yet which means there's equal amounts of stuff to look forward to but I still can't help but wonder how much further I'd be along if I had started this series 5 or 10 years ago. When you're pushing yourself to your limits and trying to see how far you can go it sucks to think of all the potential time and practice you could have had to refine your skills if you discovered it earlier. I totally get what you mean about this series bringing back that magic and spark, I've had series that have really meant a lot to me in the past, but this series is truly something special that I don't think can be replaced or even surpassed for me at least. I checked out the dBU white lotuc track you mentioned and it was absolutely fantastic. There's such a range to this piece that makes it special. Yuyuko's theme is really beautiful which I feel fits her fight perfectly, in general I think it's one of the most pretty fights in the series. Oh and the other piece I feel has so much range to it similarly to Emotional Skyscraper is Necrofantasia, absolutely love that piece. I also recently listened to a haunting remix for Kagome Kagome ~ Cinderella Cage I thought was great too that I'd recommend if you're interested! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkML_4j586Q If I had to guess I'd say this Extra stage is going to go on for about 20 minutes from the looks of it :o It's almost like a whole game within a game! Ah yes, many clip deaths, also sometimes you misjudge when an enemy is going to die and starting moving away too quickly, or sometimes you get trapped and squished ect. I just try and always look at it as practice regardless. Over time my general odds of capturing a spellcard seems to rise so I try not to get too caught up in stressing over individual attempts although I'm sure everyone knows what it's like to have those deaths that make you yell "what?! That's complete bullshit!" at their screen from time to time lol and those off days where you just can't seem to get a good attempt can certainly be frustrating. I think the worst is when you start off amazingly, conserve most your resources quite far into the stage and then have things go horribly wrong later on. It's painful to make it really far into the stage without using a bomb only to suddenly get 2 misses back to back in a single attack. I am at the point where I think this is probably the most I've ever attempted a single thing in a game before. I can really see the effects of refining the muscle memory over the countless times I've slammed Reimu face first into a bullet :V I can't say I'm feeling burnt out though, I'm actually enjoying this a lot and I'm not necessarily in a rush to finish it and I feel like this is really effecting my overall skill with the series. Doremy has a few spellcards like the one you mentioned with Patchouli. I really like her extra stage fight one like that even if you have to be pretty careful not to get trapped in it which can happen very quickly. It wasn't that long ago that I usually would just sit myself on the bottom of the screen and try to play it safe. I've long since come to realize that mentality simply just won't fly at all in the higher difficulties. The series really pushes you to be willing to use the entire screen. I've become much more comfortable doing that over time but initially it was really tough. Hell, even using the top of the screen to collect items use to terrify me. You really need to be able to adapt in this series, as there's a lot of parts that will punish you for trying to approach everything with the same mentality.  I'm excited to get eventually try out 6's extra stage, it seems like it's one of the most iconic in the series. I know Flandre's theme is probably the single most well known Touhou track and probably the first from the series I ever heard myself. I'm also kind of curious about the no bomb runs. What made you decide to focus on those over normal 1ccs? I'm guessing being able to experience each game a bit deeper probably has something to do with it? Also how much practice does that usually involve to complete a game like that? Also good luck on getting through Flandre's last 3 spells, you can do it! :)

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