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| Helepolis:
--- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 09, 2018, 06:47:50 AM ---Okay, I'll spell out my main message then. I think that your (as in site staff in general) avoidance of any potential conflict to the point of paranoia is unnecessary. Conflicts and arguments, even on touchy subjects, can have positive results, even if not immediately obvious. I'm not denying that sometimes you do need to put your foot down, like when it devolves into personal insults or arguing the same point ad nauseam. But just because a topic CAN go that way doesn't mean it should be prevented from going anywhere at all. That's it. --- End quote --- This seems to be a mix of messages making no sense. How did you conclude we're moderating out of paranoia? The thread was reported in the first place. Please explain. --- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 09, 2018, 06:47:50 AM ---But eh, this argument has shown that the idea that any other point of view except one already accepted around here can have a right to exist without someone fighting tooth and nail for it is alien to the local bigwigs. Completely expected, unfortunately. --- End quote --- This doesn't make any sense, what do you mean? |
| CyberAngel:
--- Quote from: Helepolis on August 09, 2018, 07:36:02 AM ---How did you conclude we're moderating out of paranoia? The thread was reported in the first place. Please explain. --- End quote --- From explanations in the past, reports are supposed to be just a flag for mod attention. Any further actions are up to mod's discretion. Is that correct? If so, then that thread lock felt like an avoidable preemptive action. Like, what's the worst that could happen with it? Some more arguing that COULD make a lock necessary later, but that's it. Or maybe it could flourish into people digging into ZUN's interviews to sum up information about views on social topics. Or maybe someone would calmly convince OP to agree with ZUN's views. But nope, all that nipped in the bud. And I don't see a good reason to choose doing that short of your salary being cut for every argument that happens on the forum. If not, then what, are you obligated to act on each and every report? If so then hoo boy, this approach is so exploitable that I can't believe you just follow through with it. |
| Helepolis:
I have explained why I locked the thread in this post. And that is honestly all of it. All these assumptions you're making don't reflect on the reasons provided above. This is why others have concluded that you're blowing things out of proportion. |
| CyberAngel:
--- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 06, 2018, 09:27:56 AM ---Locking the topic did nothing but prevent OP or someone like them from understanding the other side better and possibly changing their opinion. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 07, 2018, 08:24:13 AM ---I just ask the staff to consider the weight of their decisions a bit better. Unnecessary actions like that might result in even more work for you to take care of later for no good reason. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 09, 2018, 06:47:50 AM ---Conflicts and arguments, even on touchy subjects, can have positive results, even if not immediately obvious. I'm not denying that sometimes you do need to put your foot down, like when it devolves into personal insults or arguing the same point ad nauseam. But just because a topic CAN go that way doesn't mean it should be prevented from going anywhere at all. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CyberAngel on August 09, 2018, 08:10:35 AM ---Like, what's the worst that could happen with it? Some more arguing that COULD make a lock necessary later, but that's it. Or maybe it could flourish into people digging into ZUN's interviews to sum up information about views on social topics. Or maybe someone would calmly convince OP to agree with ZUN's views. But nope, all that nipped in the bud. --- End quote --- |
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--- Quote from: Helepolis on August 09, 2018, 08:35:27 AM ---I have explained why I locked the thread in this post. And that is honestly all of it. All these assumptions you're making don't reflect on the reasons provided above. This is why others have concluded that you're blowing things out of proportion. --- End quote --- That post says you didn't know what to do about the thread and locked it out of confusion. Basically, you decided to follow the "out of sight, out of mind" rule. No wonder people don't like the decision. You know, this thread is painful to watch, so I would like to suggest a compromise. Your early thought was to move the thread to Shrinemaiden Cafe. Shrinemaiden Cafe is where all the political threads end up anyway. It also has threads that touch upon the topic of ZUN and Touhou, and no one seems to mind those. Thus I believe it's an acceptable course of action to reopen the thread, move it to Shrinemaiden Cafe and let it develop. |
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