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charliebobson:
so uh, my save file disappeared. at the load screen its like it never existed. anything i can do to fix this or am I just fucked, a cautionary tale to always keep multiple save files?
Rinnie:

--- Quote from: charliebobson on July 27, 2018, 07:51:01 PM ---so uh, my save file disappeared. at the load screen its like it never existed. anything i can do to fix this or am I just fucked, a cautionary tale to always keep multiple save files?

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You need recall in your memory everything you did before save file disappeared. Also check your game directory, it should have "save" subdirectory - check it if it has any files in it (and if it is read-only, just in case).

End of July soon, so the final patch is almsot here? My test character (https://i.imgur.com/etMuNvi.png) is ready to discover how deep he can go in the final version of endless corridor :) And ready to test his strength against  Spoiler: WINNER of any level :) Standard Spoiler: WINNER was one-shotted without a fight.

(Of course I have normal party too, I am just messing around while waiting for patch and also testing various stuff)
charliebobson:
i ended up just starting a new game, which is surprising because normally i usually just take a break for a while whenever this happens with other games. This game is some quality shit though so an exception was made.
ZoomyTsugumi:

--- Quote from: charliebobson on July 27, 2018, 04:54:38 PM ---so whats the general consensus on labyrinth of touhou 1? is it better or worse than 2, is it still worth playing after 2?

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LoT 2 has many many quality of life improvements that make the game much less permanent in your choices, which has its benefits if you're the type to under invest if you're worried about regretting your spending down the line. This makes 2 overall easier because you can retweak your characters as much as you want, whereas with 1 for the most optimal party you need to decide from the start where you want to allocate your level up points and hope that you've made the right decision later in the game.

Subclasses and skillsets are a mixed bag for me, I don't mind the variability in playstyles you can attain through using them but as a first time player of 2 it was really stressful and got to a point where i was constantly worrying that i wasn't using the most optimal party and therefore making things much harder on myself unknowingly. I think the sheer level of tweaks available are great if you're the kind of person who loves theorycrafting different parties but that's not me so it wasn't a huge plus in my book.

Aesthetically obviously 2 has the edge but with a charagraph pack 1 isn't that bad either, the music is decent still.

Where I think 1 really shines is in it's boss battles, because 2's boss battles imo are horrendously balanced in some parts, especially in postgame. 1's boss battles also benefited from the lack of a visible health bar I feel, because the desperation phases and health scripted moves came at a surprise unless you were closely counting damage. 1's bosses are definitely much more trial and error and punishing if you don't build your party correctly from the get go, but imo the difficulty isn't a bad thing.

Another huge plus is that 1's character balance overall as mentioned before is much better relative to each other. The worst character is still usable, the best characters aren't groundbreakingly OP and necessary for survival. There's only a few situations where someone in particular is hands down the best bet for a role in a boss, but even then there's always alternatives that work just as well, if needing a little bit of tweaking to get there. 2's got a fairly substansial amount of people where if you're not using them you're going to struggle a looot more (Hina, Nitori etc).  Someone in an earlier thread described it best, LoT1's character balance goes from like 5-9 on a 10 point scale. But LoT2's goes from 7-11. Where the overall roster is better in 2 but there's some that are way too good.

tl;dr really, your first playthrough in 1 will be fairly hard unless you extensively read on how to best prepare your characters. But with experience the game is not nearly as difficult. There's a big lack of quality of life improvements that are present in 2, but it's nothing you can't live without. The game is simpler and most of the strategy comes out in party management for exploring, and boss battles, which are better than 2's boss battles. Characters are all usable and there's no super amazing OP can't live without character. Just use a charagraph to get rid of the ugly portraits and enjoy yourself.

I greatly prefer 1 but the simplicity is much easier to deal with for me and there is more party flexibility because there aren't really any bosses that punish not using certain characters in the same way that 2 can do. I keep returning to 1 to replay it again and again, but I'm in no rush to do so for 2.
Xarizzar:

--- Quote from: ZoomyTsugumi on July 27, 2018, 11:50:41 PM ---2's got a fairly substansial amount of people where if you're not using them you're going to struggle a looot more (Hina, Nitori etc).  Someone in an earlier thread described it best, LoT1's character balance goes from like 5-9 on a 10 point scale. But LoT2's goes from 7-11. Where the overall roster is better in 2 but there's some that are way too good.

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I don't think that's quite the case. Though I'm bad at this game, so I may be wrong here; when it comes to damage, I think if you have a glass cannon or two, characters like Nitori aren't really necessary mandatory. I think it's a "problem" of having enough of each role. Like Tank, Support, Healer, Glass Cannon, etc...
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