Author Topic: Shooter games (Read 156906 times)

Aisha · « **Reply #870 on:** November 25, 2009, 08:13:49 AM »

I probably should have Cave'd in (haha see what I did there?) and ordered the standard edition.

I think I will.. soon.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #871 on:** November 25, 2009, 09:18:54 AM »

Quote from: Aisha on November 25, 2009, 08:13:49 AM

I probably should have Cave'd in (haha see what I did there?) and ordered the standard edition.

I think I will.. soon.

I want the special edition too. But really, 30 ( or was it 35?) bucks, AND the chance of it being out of stock/delayed for extended periods just for a music cd that will probably be put on youtube or something isn't really worth it. Not to mention that's more packaging for people to overcharge you with duty.

Of course, I'm probably gonna get the special edition anyway if it's still in stock (yeah right) when I can order this baby, and if I have the funds for it. Hard to tell cuz of random events happening costing cash atm.

Aisha · « **Reply #872 on:** November 25, 2009, 10:16:44 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on November 25, 2009, 09:18:54 AM

I want the special edition too. But really, 30 ( or was it 35?) bucks, AND the chance of it being out of stock/delayed for extended periods just for a music cd that will probably be put on youtube or something isn't really worth it. Not to mention that's more packaging for people to overcharge you with duty.

Of course, I'm probably gonna get the special edition anyway if it's still in stock (yeah right) when I can order this baby, and if I have the funds for it. Hard to tell cuz of random events happening costing cash atm.

I think the only thing you might miss out on by waiting until later and having to settle for the standard edition is the Futari version 1.01 DLC, which as I understand (but don't know for a fact), is included with all first-press releases of the game. I'm not so sure that 1.01 is worth it, though.

lmagus · « **Reply #873 on:** November 25, 2009, 11:33:28 AM »

Quote from: Matsuri on November 25, 2009, 07:04:52 AM

Pretty much. I'm a huge Manabu Namiki fan, so it kind of sold itself in my case. If you want, I'll see if I can get the music to you one way or another.

I'm a huge fan as well, that's very nice of you, thanks!

I ordered from Play-Asia my copy of Mushi Futari Standard Edition before going to sleep yesterday.
If I ever see the Limited Ed selling again, with the faceplate, I'll order it too.
Yes, I read it comes with a faceplate for the X360! :O

Oh, the price went up $6

Glad I bought mine before the price change

EDIT:

Play-Asia is taking pre-orders for the Limited Ed!

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-br-49-en-70-3j1c.html

EDIT2: Damnit I cannot cancel my order of the Standard Ed anymore!
I guess I'll have to buy two copies of the game then :V

Matsuri · « **Reply #874 on:** November 25, 2009, 03:48:28 PM »

That's awesome, but I can safely say that I don't think you'll ever find the Limited Edition with the faceplates for a not-ridiculous price. Those came from CAVE's shop only and sold out pretty much instantly.

And NCSX still hasn't charged or shipped yet. This makes me sad.

Quote from: Aisha on November 25, 2009, 10:16:44 AM

I'm not so sure that 1.01 is worth it, though.

My perspective: seeing that it's pretty hard (and really expensive) to find a ver. 1.01 PCB, a free DLC card is like an early Christmas gift.

lmagus · « **Reply #875 on:** November 25, 2009, 04:53:59 PM »

So all the versions (limited and standard) both come with the 1.01 + Black Label as free DLC?

Matsuri · « **Reply #876 on:** November 25, 2009, 05:10:47 PM »

All of the first-print ones do, as far as I know.

EDIT: Wait, no. Not Black Label. That's paid DLC that will be available on Japanese Xbox Live Arcade eventually. Ver. 1.01 is the free DLC.

lmagus · « **Reply #877 on:** November 25, 2009, 07:36:05 PM »

Ah ok.

Well I have both a Standard and a Limited edition ordered on Play Asia.

I hope they ship tomorrow!

Matsuri · « **Reply #878 on:** November 25, 2009, 07:47:26 PM »

Here's to hoping~

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #879 on:** November 25, 2009, 07:48:54 PM »

I hope 1400 points is enough for the DLC, since that's the amount I got. Ordered the game earlier today. Don't know when I'll get it.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #880 on:** November 25, 2009, 07:51:13 PM »

I just hope they don't run out of stock and/or jack the price up when I can order it by roughly the 10th of december. GAH. Hope you guys get yours soon too though. I always feel like a kid in a candy store every time I get mail hoping for a delivery notice from the post office when I order such things.

Matsuri · « **Reply #881 on:** November 25, 2009, 07:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Enigma on November 25, 2009, 07:48:54 PM

I hope 1400 points is enough for the DLC, since that's the amount I got. Ordered the game earlier today. Don't know when I'll get it.

In case you don't already know: they have to be Japanese XBL points, and you have to order them through a Japanese account, all of which will work on a non-Japanese console.

Just making sure.

Also, the BL DLC won't be available right away, so there's no major hurry.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #882 on:** November 25, 2009, 08:22:23 PM »

Yes, they're Japanese points as 1400 point cards don't exist for the US, and I don't have a Japanese account yet, but I'll make one when the time comes. Ordered the points along with Futari.

lmagus · « **Reply #883 on:** November 25, 2009, 10:00:43 PM »

Hm.. I didn't even know about the XBL thing

Well anyway ever since I got my X360 I never went online with it.

Maybe I'll need a guide sometime later to make the account and download it

BoLaD · « **Reply #884 on:** November 26, 2009, 12:00:26 AM »

It seems like Futari is selling pretty damn well- a lot better than I hoped it would. Precious gems like Cave shmups should be hidden in the deepest realms of the internet- almost never to see the light of day. (just my opinion)

Matsuri · « **Reply #885 on:** November 26, 2009, 12:57:35 AM »

Why? The general YouTube retard thinks anything by CAVE is Touhou anyway.

Chaotic Phoenixma · « **Reply #886 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:02:10 AM »

I've never seen that. I've seen lots of Touhou is harder comments, but not that.

Matsuri · « **Reply #887 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:02:55 AM »

You have those, and the 'is this touhou? comments.

My general response to anything like that is 'hardly'.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #888 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:03:56 AM »

True, I felt an aneurysm coming on when I read the "true last boss" entry of TVtropes and someone said that Flandre was harder than Hibachi and Larsa.

Aisha · « **Reply #889 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:11:07 AM »

I remember seeing a "cool touhou on the DS" comment for a Ketsui Death Label promo video on Youtube, which I thought was pretty stupid, but in a way, understandable.

Matsuri · « **Reply #890 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:12:49 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on November 26, 2009, 01:03:56 AM

True, I felt an aneurysm coming on when I read the "true last boss" entry of TVtropes and someone said that Flandre was harder than Hibachi and Larsa.

I lose faith in humanity every time I get linked to that site.

Quote from: Aisha on November 26, 2009, 01:11:07 AM

I remember seeing a "cool touhou on the DS" comment for a Ketsui Death Label promo video on Youtube, which I thought was pretty stupid, but in a way, understandable.

Rob doesn't lie when he says it resembles a doujin shooter.

moozooh · « **Reply #891 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:23:29 AM »

Comparing every shmup to Touhou is the first level of stupid. More advanced users usually ask "Is this Ikaruga?" and "Was this game made by company who made Ikaruga?"

Matsuri · « **Reply #892 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:27:53 AM »

And then you've got the Twin Galaxies record-holders who know what shmup is what, but think they're experts when they don't know shit about score mechanics :V

Lishy1 · « **Reply #893 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:30:42 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on November 26, 2009, 01:03:56 AM

True, I felt an aneurysm coming on when I read the "true last boss" entry of TVtropes and someone said that Flandre was harder than Hibachi and Larsa.

She kind of is when you think about the circumstances.
And Hibachi just needs memorization to beat, so Flandre's only true competition is Larsa.

Flandre's battle involves very long and tedious attacks whereas Larsa focuses more on barrage, but if you have enough bombs you can plow through the battle.
With flandre, it is an extra stage, so you don't even have any powerups. And if I must also add: EoSD's shot types suck I'm comparison to Mushihimesama's

It's still under a lot of debate, so don't cringe just yet.

Matsuri · « **Reply #894 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:44:43 AM »

I don't know where you're going with any of that.

Flandre is more memorization than anything, since half of her cards are completely static :V

Hibachi isn't just memorization, it's a lot of sightreading and reflex. Same goes for Larsa.

Also, no, you can't plow through Larsa's battle using bombs, since, much like a Touhou Extra stage boss, she is immune to them.

I don't see what you're trying to say with "With flandre, it is an extra stage, so you don't even have any powerups." You um, do have powerups-- not to mention, to even get to Hibachi or Larsa, you have to play through 2 intense loops of DoDonPachi or through the lunacy that is Mushi Futari ULTRA/God mode. Flandre's 5-minute stage is a joke in comparison.

lmagus · « **Reply #895 on:** November 26, 2009, 02:04:20 AM »

not to mention that if you DO bomb Larsa you're up for another full HP bar worth of pain

shadowbringer · « **Reply #896 on:** November 26, 2009, 02:28:36 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on November 26, 2009, 01:03:56 AM

True, I felt an aneurysm coming on when I read the "true last boss" entry of TVtropes and someone said that Flandre was harder than Hibachi and Larsa.

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(must stop playing Facebook games and play shmups more..)

Lishy1 · « **Reply #897 on:** November 26, 2009, 02:29:52 AM »

Quote from: Matsuri on November 26, 2009, 01:44:43 AM

I don't know where you're going with any of that.

Flandre is more memorization than anything, since half of her cards are completely static :V

Hibachi isn't just memorization, it's a lot of sightreading and reflex. Same goes for Larsa.

Also, no, you can't plow through Larsa's battle using bombs, since, much like a Touhou Extra stage boss, she is immune to them.

I don't see what you're trying to say with "With flandre, it is an extra stage, so you don't even have any powerups." You um, do have powerups-- not to mention, to even get to Hibachi or Larsa, you have to play through 2 intense loops of DoDonPachi or through the lunacy that is Mushi Futari ULTRA/God mode. Flandre's 5-minute stage is a joke in comparison.

moozooh · « **Reply #898 on:** November 26, 2009, 02:37:08 AM »

Hibachi fight may be about proper positioning in certain patterns (first form especially), but there's no memorization involved whatsoever; it's just your ability to dodge shit and bomb per-emptively. I had a really good run today: one-lifed from that savestate posted a few pages back up to his 4th pattern, died second time with two bombs in stock, and started the last attack with full bomb stock. If not for stupid deaths and tough luck with last attack lanes, I'd have 1CC'd it.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #899 on:** November 26, 2009, 02:48:07 AM »

I don't care who thinks what game is harder. I think people are stupid when they bash one game and love another. They're all excellent.

Flandre isn't very hard though IMO, but she's still one of my fave bosses to fight in all time.