Author Topic: Shooter games (Read 156919 times)

Matsuri · « **Reply #330 on:** October 09, 2009, 04:53:35 AM »

After my one class tomorrow, I'm totally free until Wednesday! I'm really gonna crack down on Mushihimesama. I just read up on scoring strategies and shot frequencies, so I think that if I practice enough, I can make it into the 9-digit score area. I'm kind of excited

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #331 on:** October 09, 2009, 05:05:29 AM »

o_O

I just opened Dodonpachi for the first time all day (as expected, it's getting boring now that I've 1cc'd.

) and suddenly I could chain in stage 1. I got a 160-something chain by the time I reached the midboss. Shame I can't do the same for stage 2.

Matsuri · « **Reply #332 on:** October 09, 2009, 05:08:24 AM »

Could it be that Donut is actually trying to play for score? Astounding!

You're playing home run derby now.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #333 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:05:29 AM »

This savestate abuse run went amazing (surprising, huh? :V). I unlocked the second loop, but not through only dying twice (I died three times and let it go because I already succeeded in a requirement). I will never know how, but I got a 330 chain on stage 5 just by surviving a part I normally bomb. o_O Now with a savestate (with sound this time) at the beginning of the second loop I just need to suck it up and power forward to Hibachi! I just hope he doesn't have a requirement to TLB...

Aisha · « **Reply #334 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:23:46 AM »

Once you get to the second loop, you're facing Hibachi no matter how many credits you put into the machine. Although if you want to have a chance at beating Hibachi legitimately (i.e., not credit-feeding/save-stating your way through the fight), you really need to be prepared with as many lives and bombs as possible. Pretty much every Cave TLB takes you down to the wire, unless you aren't human, like HFD.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #335 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:31:37 AM »

So what about that one guy who perfected Hibachi? :V

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm83312

But that's a relief. If after all this I only faced the big bee I'd be really disappointed.

Aisha · « **Reply #336 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:33:58 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on October 09, 2009, 06:31:37 AM

So what about that one guy who perfected Hibachi? :V

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm83312

Youkai.

(Nice run though; haven't seen that one before.)

Azinth · « **Reply #337 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:36:19 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on October 09, 2009, 06:05:29 AM

This savestate abuse run went amazing (surprising, huh? :V). I unlocked the second loop, but not through only dying twice (I died three times and let it go because I already succeeded in a requirement). I will never know how, but I got a 330 chain on stage 5 just by surviving a part I normally bomb. o_O Now with a savestate (with sound this time) at the beginning of the second loop I just need to suck it up and power forward to Hibachi! I just hope he doesn't have a requirement to TLB...

Cool but now you have to loop it legitimately. Look deep down inside your soul Donut, you know that you must.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #338 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:41:43 AM »

You think I would want to Azinth, you really would. But I don't feel.

Spoiler:

Matsuri · « **Reply #339 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:44:12 AM »

You know you want to.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #340 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:35:32 AM »

Oooooh~ That was AMAZING!

I knew Hibachi would be tough, but never did I imagine something of this calibur~ Even with the ludicrous amount of slowdown (I'm placing the blame on the emulator here, becuase I've seen videos with a lot less slowdown), I was simply no match~ It took about 11 continues to bring him down at last, of which at least 5 were used on that final attack. It's baffling how an attack actually looks MORE dense on a full screen than a tiny poor quality Youtube video~ I tried a second try and used five continues or so~ I think I'm in love. *gushes*

Oh, and I accidentally saved over my savestate entering the second loop. :V I made a copy of my savestate just before Donpachi (the epilogue FINALLY told me his name) goes melodramatic OH NO U DIN'T and put it in a different place though (it's bound to "h", for Hibachi. <3)

lmagus · « **Reply #341 on:** October 09, 2009, 12:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Aisha on October 09, 2009, 06:23:46 AM

Once you get to the second loop, you're facing Hibachi no matter how many credits you put into the machine. Although if you want to have a chance at beating Hibachi legitimately (i.e., not credit-feeding/save-stating your way through the fight), you really need to be prepared with as many lives and bombs as possible. Pretty much every Cave TLB takes you down to the wire, unless you aren't human, like HFD.

wow it's hard to believe this video is legitimate

some parts are just impossible, even more so than Mushihime's TLB o.o

LtC · « **Reply #342 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:43:37 PM »

Quote from: lmagus on October 09, 2009, 12:48:40 PM

wow it's hard to believe this video is legitimate

some parts are just impossible, even more so than Mushihime's TLB o.o

That's an official DVD Recorded from the actual hardware, how could it be a fake? Btw that's Black Label which is noticably easier than the original version.

DOJ's Hibachi is usually considered the hardest CAVE boss, if not the hardest shmup boss

moozooh · « **Reply #343 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:45:43 PM »

The fun part is that he has almost no-missed it: one more second of survival would have filled his hyper gauge and canceled the bullets, providing him with what seems to be enough of a breathing space. Actually, that DVD is still the most impressive one I've seen to date. It's filled with awesomeness to the brim, including the nice intro clip.

LtC:
Black Label is easier when played for survival, but it has a higher rank cap. In HFD's case, it's essentially harder.

Matsuri · « **Reply #344 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:47:55 PM »

Isn't the superplay DVD that comes with the DoDonPachi DOJ PS2 port a no-miss? I don't remember.

moozooh · « **Reply #345 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:54:29 PM »

Nope, 2-miss if I remember right. By the way, wasn't that perfect DDP Hibachi from a few posts ago from Takuro's TAS? Basically it was played by a very experienced player using slowdown, and I think it was himself who announced that.

lmagus · « **Reply #346 on:** October 09, 2009, 02:04:07 PM »

Quote from: LtC on October 09, 2009, 01:43:37 PM

That's an official DVD Recorded from the actual hardware, how could it be a fake? Btw that's Black Label which is noticably easier than the original version.

DOJ's Hibachi is usually considered the hardest CAVE boss, if not the hardest shmup boss

I didn't call it fake. I said it's hard to believe.

That's a very fast attack he was dodging when he died and it impressed me. That's all

Bananamatic · « **Reply #347 on:** October 09, 2009, 07:01:57 PM »

Tried Dodonpachi again.
19CC CLEAR, HELL YES

self note: stop dying with full bombs, this isn't touhou idiot

Matsuri · « **Reply #348 on:** October 09, 2009, 07:59:30 PM »

So I was playing Uwabami Breakers, and finally broke 3,000,000 points. I get to the final spell card, and my computer dies on me. So not only did I not get to save my score or replay, if I would have captured the last card (couldn't bomb, no more booze left in me), I would have broken Kaorin's 3.4mil high score, which is the highest score I've seen so far (unless there's a higher one somewhere that I haven't seen, anyone know?)

Argh...

moozooh · « **Reply #349 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:42:55 PM »

http://score.royalflare.net/alco/scorealco.html
Help yourself.

Matsuri · « **Reply #350 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:47:26 PM »

Meh. Still, I was so close to beating the damn thing =<

EDIT: Watching the top replay, I noticed that I use almost the exact same methods as that guy, I just die a lot more. That, and I never considered using a bomb right as a spell card was starting to finish it faster without voiding the bonus. Interesting.

He also milked the stage 3 boss's last nonspell for all it was worth, too. No wonder his score was so crazy high.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #351 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:16:17 PM »

Say, does anyone know what to use to record gameplay on MAME? I just discovered that Fraps doesn't like MAME any more than it likes Anex86.

Shame, I think I only used 6 or so continues on Hibachi this time.

LtC · « **Reply #352 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:00:57 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on October 09, 2009, 10:16:17 PM

Say, does anyone know what to use to record gameplay on MAME? I just discovered that Fraps doesn't like MAME any more than it likes Anex86. Shame, I think I only used 6 or so continues on Hibachi this time.

Hypercam

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #353 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »

...

Dammit. And I was lucky enough to find the full version of Fraps. Why does Fraps not work when Hypercam does? That's just silly.

Also oh wow I took Hibachi out with only 4 continues this time. It seems to correct way to destroy his last attack is to take advantage of your death invincibility and use it to deal point blank damage for a second.

Matsuri · « **Reply #354 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:31:10 PM »

Bleh, I came closer to getting a Mushihimesama Arrange mode 1CC. Got the final boss halfway down, but there would be no way I could have defeated the TLB after that. I need to stop making stupid mistakes.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #355 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:52:24 PM »

Oh Matsuri~ Guess which game my care-o-meter is down to nearly zero on now.

I TOLD you once I reached Hibachi my interest for the rest of the game would dwindle. I haven't even touched the second loop (I made another loop 2 savestate because I had another that was just before the stage 6 boss) since the first time. And my Touhou addiction has returned full force as well! \o/ So in conclusion, thanks for putting up with me and my complaints all. o/

Matsuri · « **Reply #356 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:09:17 PM »

You still love it. You aren't fooling anyone.

shadowbringer · « **Reply #357 on:** October 11, 2009, 12:54:37 AM »

convince Donut to play Raizing games for survival (I wanted him to play Garegga and Batrider :p)

[ ] convince Donut to play Varth and/or Thunder Dragon 2, which are pretty straightforward in their scoring systems, and are intense games, especially Varth (RFJ is intense when playing for score; when it's not being played for score -- I mean, after you enter the Special Medal mode and work towards quickshotting enemies/destroying them or parts of them at the same time, finding Micluses/Fairies, chaining medals, or doing everything in succession to gradually increase your temporary bonus multiplier, all of this while still playing for survival -- , it may lose some of its flavor).

[ ] kill me if Donut manages to legitimately 1cc Garegga and Batrider (the rank-controlled way, of course

) and still insists in playing for survival only

moozooh · « **Reply #358 on:** October 11, 2009, 01:04:39 AM »

Quote from: shadowbringer on October 11, 2009, 12:54:37 AM

[ ] kill me if Donut manages to legitimately 1cc Garegga and Batrider (the rank-controlled way, of course ) and still insists in playing for survival only

Um, well, there really isn't more than one way either of them can be 1CC'd, because if you just do everything to aggravate the rank you'll just won't make it.

To be completely honest, though, there is a way to do extremely low-score playthrough on either (there are videos on YouTube) that makes it possible to no-miss (or close to that), but it's so much harder, more unforgiving, and ungratifying, it can be as well dismised altogether.

Matsuri · « **Reply #359 on:** October 11, 2009, 01:08:11 AM »

I gave Donut RFJ, though. Batrider too. I don't remember if I put Garegga in the .rar or not.

I just don't think we can get him to appreciate arcade shmups, even if he's a totally obvious tsundere for them :V

Author Topic: Shooter games (Read 156919 times)

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