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Visionary Fairies in Shrine latest chapter discussion
Suspicious person:
So much cynicism and indifference inside the latest Chapter 11. I see that although the land may bear the color of fantasy, it's denizens' hearts still be made of stone ... THIS is what happens when you let your children play too much danmaku games ...
Anyway, it seems that a lot of things may potentially go wrong, and oh so TERRIBLY wrong. In any case, it has been quite a while since I last read the older three fairies manga so I do not quite remember the circumstances that lead them to live where they are now, but I still kinda remember that their home tree(?) plays some sort of important-ish role when it comes to supporting the barrier.
Incidentally, if - big assumption here - Spoiler: Clownpiece letting the flame part of her torch rest on the tree of the three fairies end up burning the tree (like I said big assumption here), could that have some sort of unintended big effect and weaken the barrier ? Or we just get a minor Spoiler: fire incident that get resolved in a jiffy. Like, maybe the Spoiler: Kappa are going to get dragged into the possible fire issue and solve it for everyone in the next chapter or something ; and something happens with Clownpiece cuz she seems to have a bit of consciousness and decency unlike some other people (cue possible character developement ? Or nah, cuz she's a fairy ? Eh, we'll see)
Also this comes a bit late, but regarding the thing about the Spoiler: Hell power struggle introduced in Chapter 10 ... AFiEU Hecatia gives off this impression that she is not particularly interested in power but is more than glad to make use of it. Maybe this really is still about giving a good time to Clownpiece, but some sort of super big reason was needed to keep Clownpiece motivated, and the thing about the Spoiler: Hell power struggle kinda popped up as a convenient explanation ? Or she was serious all around, but c'mon, it's Hecatia. Like, maybe since Spoiler: Hell is a meritocracy, introducing a Super buff Fairy familiarised with powers that people down there don't exactly understand AND get said Fairy (who is on her side btw) to snatch some kind of important position amidst the Spoiler: power struggle could be a power play that basically gives Hecatia more power and control over Spoiler: Hell without having to do much of her own.
Personally, the way I view the reason why Hecatia puts Clownpiece in Gensokyo goes pretty much along the lines of how Shiiekeieeiek views things : primarily to give Clownpiece a good time. The rest, however seemingly important they may be, are actually secondary.
Also let's see if ZUN still remembers that Kishin chief Suiki dude is a thing, if he decides to give him some manner of relevance
Lebon14:
--- Quote from: Suspicious person on June 26, 2018, 05:44:46 PM ---Anyway, it seems that a lot of things may potentially go wrong, and oh so TERRIBLY wrong. In any case, it has been quite a while since I last read the older three fairies manga so I do not quite remember the circumstances that lead them to live where they are now, but I still kinda remember that their home tree(?) plays some sort of important-ish role when it comes to supporting the barrier.
Incidentally, if - big assumption here - Spoiler: Clownpiece letting the flame part of her torch rest on the tree of the three fairies end up burning the tree (like I said big assumption here), could that have some sort of unintended big effect and weaken the barrier ? Or we just get a minor Spoiler: fire incident that get resolved in a jiffy. Like, maybe the Spoiler: Kappa are going to get dragged into the possible fire issue and solve it for everyone in the next chapter or something ; and something happens with Clownpiece cuz she seems to have a bit of consciousness and decency unlike some other people (cue possible character developement ? Or nah, cuz she's a fairy ? Eh, we'll see)
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You're reading waaaaaaaay too much into this. Spoiler: Clowpiece is known to have control over the flame. In VFiS chapter 5, it's implied that Spoiler: Clownpiece is in control of its hellfire. So, her putting her stick next to the tree means nothing unless SHE decides that the fire starts burning the tree. So, that renders the point moot.
As for the Kappa side of things, Spoiler: they're just taking advantage of the amount of water of the ravine. They caught the fairies laughing at them and will take them as immortal scapegoats for their "ride". As for the title of the chapter, it might just reference the noise rapids does to a dragon, hence "pseudo-dragon".
The Hell portion of things is not relevent yet. Until proven otherwise of course.
Suspicious person:
--- Quote from: Lebon14 on June 26, 2018, 10:17:00 PM ---Spoiler: Clowpiece is known to have control over the flame. In VFiS chapter 5, it's implied that Spoiler: Clownpiece is in control of its hellfire. So, her putting her stick next to the tree means nothing unless SHE decides that the fire starts burning the tree. So, that renders the point moot.
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? I don't believe there is an instance where it was mentioned that Clownpiece got the power to dictate her fire to selectively burn such or such thing in particular. Also fires are not necessarily stuff that can come only from the use of an ability. I don't also recall there being a moment where it was said that Clownpiece has some kind of fire regulating ability, her powers have always been that of insanity inducement by means of lifeforce disruption for those who stare too much into her fire.
Regarding the flame on Clownpiece's torch, Chapter 9 part 2 pretty much explain how it works : Spoiler: going by the remarks of Clownpiece, who's NEVER seen the torch be put off, it's pretty much safe to say it's a nigh inextinguishable fire ; and going by what the omniscient narrator says at the very end, the torch burns with the lifeforce of those who fell to Hell : however special that sounds like, a flame is still a flame : it burns. Incidentally, that same chapter make it clear that Spoiler: Clownpiece herself does not exactly understand how her torch works and does not have complete and perfect control over it.
The thing that made me give the argument - which, like I mentionned up there, makes the supposition Spoiler: that the tree house burns - does not only take all of the above into account, but is also related to the unnatural and unarguably unnecessary close up of Spoiler: the flame part of Clownpiece's torch leaning against the three fairies home tree(?) : as far as I'm concerned, there would be no reason to put an emphasis on that if there is literally no sort of implication that could be derived from it : getting to see something that you can already clearly see in the PREVIOUS panel is redundant and awkward.
So, if you put together Spoiler: a nigh inextinguishable fire, and the fact that Clownpiece don't have complete control over the fire, and the fact that Clownpiece is pretty much falling asleep, and the fact that the fire part of the torch is leaning on the tree house, and the fact that trees figures in the list of combustible things, then you pretty much get the formula for a disaster, Spoiler: a disaster that could potentially be circumvented by Kappas, who are water specialists, who got themselves involved with the three fairies who own the house that might possibly be put on fire. Anyway, that's my take on what could possibly come in the next chapter.
The thing about the barrier and the tree house might be reading a little bit too much, but eh, I'd still put it there purely for the reasons I listed previously. Likewise for the Spoiler: Hell related speculation, that one in relation to another previous chapter that I didn't get to put my input on due to reasons.
CyberAngel:
Plot twist: Spoiler: she just sets her clothes on fire by accident and runs towards the ravine to douse them. Fun water ride ensues. Also, she blames the trio for that just because.
Also, that last panel looks like it will definitely serve as a setup for an R-18 doujin.
Lebon14:
I actually missed the fact that Spoiler: she fell asleep next to the 3 fairies tree. I dunno how I miseed that tbh.
--- Quote from: CyberAngel on June 27, 2018, 07:02:29 AM ---Plot twist: Spoiler: she just sets her clothes on fire by accident and runs towards the ravine to douse them. Fun water ride ensues. Also, she blames the trio for that just because.
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That's probably the most probable outcome tbh.