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| the old guy:
ZUN's bad at writing stories. Just saying. I've read fan fics better written than FS/WaHH. Of course even then those reviews are clearly poorly written. Literally any touhou fan will recognize who Sakuya is and why she's there. Same for Letty. The reviewers are just looking for a excuse to shit on the manga. Also they dissed Moe's art. Screw that, her art is great. |
| CyberAngel:
--- Quote from: the old guy on November 13, 2017, 08:45:41 AM ---ZUN's bad at writing stories. Just saying. I've read fan fics better written than FS/WaHH. --- End quote --- Tomatoes are not as sweet as oranges. That doesn't make them bad vegetables. It just means you're expecting the wrong thing from them. Just saying. --- Quote from: the old guy on November 13, 2017, 08:45:41 AM ---Of course even then those reviews are clearly poorly written. Literally any touhou fan will recognize who Sakuya is and why she's there. Same for Letty. The reviewers are just looking for a excuse to shit on the manga. --- End quote --- Touhou fans - yes. But they looked at it as complete newcomers that they are - which will be true for most of their readers as well. And frankly, Touhou mangas aren't that great as an entry point into the series, as people have said here already. |
| ToyoRai:
I guess one if biggest problems with the mangas when it comes to being read alone is when they specific reference the other games. For example in FS, chapters 10 and 11 requires to know what happened in HM to not be really lost on what characters are talking about, or who Kokoro really is. One of latest examples overall would be WaHH, where 40 and 41 set up so to speak the plot for HSiFS, and then 42 skips after the events of the game has concluded. |
| TresserT:
--- Quote from: nyttyn on November 13, 2017, 07:55:13 AM ---For the most part Forbidden Scrollery kind of works around Motoori instead of with her - especially in the later half, which while stronger definitely shoves Motoori really hard out of the spotlight. Honestly speaking Forbidden Scrollery is really weak as a series even past volume 1, as is mostly just cameos/cute art/hype moments/world building. That's not to say I dislike it - in fact, I regard it highly, with context, but as its own independent entity it's extremely weak, even once it gets rolling. I wouldn't be surprised if later volumes review just as poorly. But as its own plot - it's basically a series of pointless build ups towards payoffs that never, and cannot (due to how the series is set up), happen. Wild and Horned Hermit gets a little bit more leniency in this regard in my eyes since it does explore Kasen's character and give us a few surprise moments here and there, even if the pacing is still extremely awful. There's at least an attempt at a story (Kasen herself, namely) being told there, and Kasen's almost always at least involved. Forbidden Scrollery, on the other hand, seems even more obsessed with cameos and exploring world building than with trying to explore Motoori's story or even trying to involve her as time goes on, to the point where the conclusion to her personal story is very right field and anti-climactic. Again, I must stress this doesn't make it bad as a work with context, but without that context and on its own merits Forbidden Scrollery is very, very weak, even in later volumes. --- End quote --- Tbh I agree with this. For what it is, I very much love and appreciate Forbidden Scrollery, and all the mangas for that matter. But aside from maybe the fairy ones, they clearly aren't meant to be read by themselves. They're supplemental to the games. ZUN uses them as a means of showcasing characters that otherwise wouldn't get much focus. He kind of has to do it this way. But if you're reading the mangas by themselves then they're kind of all over the place. And you can't really expect a manga reviewer to get into the games. They have to review the book for the book, not for its place in the series. So I can understand why it might get a bad review. |
| Lt Colonel Summers:
Well, at least Yen Press left "Youkai Books" and "Enenra" as is in their translations, at least in the panels shown in Anime News Network's review page. Though I was kind of irked that their translation gives Marisa the exact same accent as everyone else (save Mamizou?). Speaking of translation, how did Yen Press deal with the organ/organic farming pun that turned up in the first chapter? |
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