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Z_A:

--- Quote ---Yeah it's an unfortunate side-effect of EQ, though it can actually be used like that intentionally.
I read that apparently it's normal for the instrument to stop sounding good on its own after applying the correct amount of EQ, it's just that it will work better in the mix.
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I've learned about that too when I was studying EQ on the Internet, but the lessons that I was watching were strongly related to the actual "authentic" electronic music, while I prefer my arrangements to sound like they could at least theoretically be performed on real instruments (well, except for the sawtooth synth).

Even so, I started using EQ and compression while I was struggling to properly mix the Headless Hunter - that early =P this stuff really helps in many situations. Even when using only sf2 sounds. Moderation is still the key though.

--- Quote ---That's probably for people who spend days working on the mix though
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Actually, that would be me! yaay

--- Quote ---Actually my resample rate is always abysmally low, which I figured was the cause, though maybe it is the contrary.
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If you get random inconsistencies in your mix after rendering that are impossible to explain otherwise (not clipping etc), then it's probably some hardware or software problem - the soundboard or the driver. In that case, reducing the resample rate would allow your system to handle the rendering more easily, and the probabilty of errors decreases.

...is how I explain it to myself :smokedcheese:

--- Quote ---I've spent the last two hours repeatedly exporting it to make sure it sounded nice for the upload.
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Lucky you, it generally takes about that long to render a track of mine only once.

--- Quote ---That'd be something interesting and fun to do! Never worked on a collaboration before though.
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Neither have I, but I have a feeling that it's worth a shot.
GenericArrangements:

--- Quote from: Z_A on December 21, 2018, 02:31:12 PM ---I've learned about that too when I was studying EQ on the Internet, but the lessons that I was watching were strongly related to the actual "authentic" electronic music, while I prefer my arrangements to sound like they could at least theoretically be performed on real instruments (well, except for the sawtooth synth).

Even so, I started using EQ and compression while I was struggling to properly mix the Headless Hunter - that early =P this stuff really helps in many situations. Even when using only sf2 sounds. Moderation is still the key though.
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As I've found out, messing with EQ is super important for any kind of instrument you're using. Most instruments are high-passed, some instruments sound better low-passed, etc. It all depends on the instrument and how everything works in the mix, to ensure you aren't clogging up certain frequencies.


--- Quote from: Z_A on December 21, 2018, 02:31:12 PM ---If you get random inconsistencies in your mix after rendering that are impossible to explain otherwise (not clipping etc), then it's probably some hardware or software problem - the soundboard or the driver. In that case, reducing the resample rate would allow your system to handle the rendering more easily, and the probabilty of errors decreases.

...is how I explain it to myself :smokedcheese:
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Well, that's one possible explanation!


--- Quote from: Z_A on December 21, 2018, 02:31:12 PM ---Lucky you, it generally takes about that long to render a track of mine only once.
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Ouch. I just use low quality settings to avoid rendering times longer than 2 minutes, haha.


--- Quote from: Z_A on December 21, 2018, 02:31:12 PM ---Neither have I, but I have a feeling that it's worth a shot.
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Would be interesting!
GenericArrangements:
Here we are. The first arrangement of 2019. It's nothing any fancier than normal though lol.

Track 1: Backup Dancers: LINK

Really showing off some EQ stuff in here. You can quite clearly hear the clarinet being high-passed, and the organ low-passed, and I like how that works (though it makes the saxophones in the middle alternate timbre, which is a bit weird). Still happy with how it feels.

Jazz as always been my best genre for arranging, so I'm glad to be showing that off for my first piece of the year. Really messed around with the B-section melody, and decided to compose the C-section for that good (abridged) rondo structure. Had to hold myself back with the drumlines though, after receiving feedback in the past that my drum fills are too complicated for the role the drums are meant to serve. I just really like writing drumlines it seems, haha.

Anyway, this year I'm going to be actually naming the arrangements (sort of). Just nice, simple names, but names that give people a little more reason to (or not to) listen to it (as now they can actually know what it's an arrangement of lol).
Z_A:

--- Quote ---Here we are. The first arrangement of 2019. It's nothing any fancier than normal though lol.
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!!!!!!!!!

This is your best arrangement so far. I love it!

--- Quote ---Jazz as always been my best genre for arranging
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I guess you do need a musical education or something to properly understand what is jazz and what isn't. I, for one, still suck at differentiating those things.

--- Quote ---Really messed around with the B-section melody, and decided to compose the C-section for that good (abridged) rondo structure.
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Can't understand a word there =D

--- Quote ---I just really like writing drumlines it seems, haha.
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You just really do, and that's amazing imo!
GenericArrangements:
Whoops. I did that thing again where I don't respond to anything for a month. Apologies.



--- Quote from: Z_A on January 05, 2019, 07:52:09 PM ---!!!!!!!!!

This is your best arrangement so far. I love it!
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Thanks! Glad you liked it.


--- Quote from: Z_A on January 05, 2019, 07:52:09 PM ---I guess you do need a musical education or something to properly understand what is jazz and what isn't. I, for one, still suck at differentiating those things.
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Often the umbrella term "jazz" works for a lot of things so even if you're not sure it probably has "jazz flavours". "Jazz" itself isn't a single definable genre and "jazzy" doesn't mean anything in a technical sense (well, a musical elitist would probably get annoyed at people saying "jazzy"), but because a lot of tracks tend to have little jazz elements you may as well just call them all as "having jazzy flavours", for example.
That arrangement is just straight big-band jazz though, haha.


--- Quote from: Z_A on January 05, 2019, 07:52:09 PM ---Can't understand a word there =D
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The rondo form is structured as "ABACA", where a particular section may be repeated 3 times throughout the entire work, with the other two sections usually more contrasting.


--- Quote from: Z_A on January 05, 2019, 07:52:09 PM ---You just really do, and that's amazing imo!
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Glad you enjoy them. Maybe I should try for something more drum focused in the near future.


Now for the music, because I feel like putting this all in one post.

Track 2: Strange Techno Discourse: LINK

The second arrangement of 2019 is... a fixed-up arrangement from 2018. whoops
I ran a little out of time and with a certain event coming up I've been saving a few arrangement choices for later (March). That being said, I was mainly distracted by my shift to life on-campus at a university (happening in the very near future), along with my own compositions taking a hold of me for a little while. So what we have here is something I EQ'd up ready to go.

For whatever reason, the Jigoku Route music in HRtP is much more chill than the Makai Route, which led me to make a silly headcanon that non-residential parts of PC98's Hell is actually quite relaxed. So, I made this, despite uh... not knowing anything about this genre of music. That was back then. I still don't know. Sounds groovy though, I think. Maybe someone with more experience in whatever this is could roast me about how bad it is tell me if it's in any right direction.

If I'm able to stick to my plans (unlikely), I'll have something fresh for March.
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