東方天空璋 ～ Hidden Star in Four Seasons

[Karisa]

Submit your Hidden Star in Four Seasons scores here!

Should the categories be split by seasonal subweapon, or only by character? Royalflare splits them by character only.



Rules:
- Only submit scores achieved without continues.
- At most 5% slowdown allowed.
- Including a replay is highly recommended. 1st place submissions without a replay will not be added to the scoreboards.

Please post your scores in this format:

Difficulty - Character
Name - Score - Season - Stage - Slowdown - Replay

Example:
Hard - Cirno
Player113 - 123,456,780 - Spring - C - 0.1% - Replay

Please use C to indicate clears!


Easy[monospace]
-Reimu-
 1. Andrew           - 1,170,241,780 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Jimmy            -   411,415,080 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Mikuru           -   335,330,010 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 4. CyberAngel       -   116,124,210 - Spring - C - 0.0% - Video
 5. Kurzov           -    59,051,600 - Spring - 5 - 0.0% - Replay

-Cirno-
 1. Chip             - 1,525,391,280 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Wish             - 1,124,563,480 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. ARF              - 1,002,835,340 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 4. XIV              -   501,475,440 - Winter - 6 - 0.3% - Video
 5. Mikuru           -   389,266,570 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 6. CyberAngel       -   107,655,380 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Video
 7. kurzov           -    33,273,480 - Summer - 5 - 0.0% - Replay

-Aya-
 1. Crested          -   820,593,590 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   350,668,560 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Phasm            -   184,069,890 - Fall   - C - 0.1% - Replay
 4. CyberAngel       -    86,812,640 - Fall   - C - 0.0% - Video
 5. kurzov           -    17,909,580 - Fall   - 4 - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-
 1. Jimmy            -   608,782,100 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   363,672,430 - Spring - C - 0.0% - Replay
    Mikuru           -   361,355,110 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Agentzap         -   177,304,990 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 4. CyberAngel       -   102,149,340 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Video
 5. kurzov           -    29,366,340 - Winter - 5 - 0.0% - Replay
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Normal[monospace]
-Reimu-
 1. Jimmy            - 1,002,634,180 - Summer - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   757,500,100 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Lollipop         -   664,006,430 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 4. Taizen           -   351,051,110 - Spring - C - 0.0% - Replay
 5. Phasm            -   294,155,260 - Spring - C - 0.1% - Replay
 6. kurzov           -     3,511,250 - Spring - 2 - 0.0% - Replay

-Cirno-
 1. Lollipop         - 1,462,822,030 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           - 1,070,834,730 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. kurzov           -     1,138,710 - Summer - 1 - 0.0% - Replay

-Aya-
 1. KirbyComment     - 2,150,962,990 - Fall   - C - 0.3% - Replay
 2. kurzov           -     2,806,610 - Fall   - 2 - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-
 1. Jimmy            -   828,688,550 - Summer - C - 0.2% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   720,729,780 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. kurzov           -     1,386,980 - Winter - 1 - 0.0% - Replay
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Hard[monospace]
-Reimu-
 1. Mikuru           -   673,564,350 - Winter - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. spaceboy         -   166,774,650 - Spring - C - 0.0% - Replay

-Cirno-
 1. Mikuru           -   265,345,900 - Winter - 5 - 0.0% - Replay

-Aya-
 1.

-Marisa-
 1. Mikuru           -   926,669,110 - Winter - 6 - 0.0% - Replay
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Lunatic[monospace]
-Reimu-
 1.

-Cirno-
 1.

-Aya-
 1.

-Marisa-
 1.
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Extra[monospace]
-Reimu-
 1. Pearl            - 1,063,816,010 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Zigzagwolf       - 1,052,380,050 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay/Video
 3. Mikuru           -   857,837,550 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 4. Karisa           -   352,088,150 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay
 5. Phasm            -   332,661,520 - Full   - C - 0.2% - Replay
 6. Jimmy            -   244,493,210 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 7. spaceboy         -   104,530,990 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay

-Cirno-
 1. ARF              - 1,466,460,200 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   783,844,050 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. Phasm            -   246,307,130 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay
 4. SomeGuy712x      -   227,679,370 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 5. spaceboy         -   116,017,900 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay

-Aya-
 1. ARF              - 1,344,230,000 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Phasm            -   372,559,280 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay
 3. Mikuru           -   324,849,150 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay

-Marisa-
 1. Pearl            -   889,211,190 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 2. Mikuru           -   328,372,000 - Full   - C - 0.0% - Replay
 3. spaceboy         -   102,385,520 - Full   - C - 0.1% - Replay
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[Uruwi]

Normal - Reimu
Uruwi - 27,206,640 - Spring - Trial-C - 0.3% - Replay

(attached below)

[Karisa]

Normal - Aya
Karisa - 106,516,810 - Winter - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

First night experimental scoring. Plenty of room for improvement, but I thought 100m was a decent reference point this early.

This trial version gives quite the life count-- 6 extends (5m, 10m, 20m, 40m, 70m, Lily White), probably 7 (also 100m) on a more polished run. Enough that I still cleared despite various accidental deaths.

I wonder which season is best for score? Winter's given me some pretty nice spawn-point cancels against bosses, but it's kind of useless on stage portions, and I haven't tested the others for very long...

Edit: collett has already reached 362m on Hard, using Cirno/Winter. It's available on Royalflare's temporary uploader for now. Releases seem to chain much more easily with Hard's higher bullet counts; this replay reached 400k PIV already. Here's hoping PIV doesn't cap at 500k like in the last few games?

This raises the question of whether Cirno's or Aya's bomb is better for grazing. Cirno's ice flower seems to last longer(?) but needs to be placed farther away from the boss; Aya can place a bomb on the left/right edge of the screen. It's possible Aya's speed may make a difference grazing some patterns, as well.

[Chill Observer]

A demo 505m lunatic replay exists with Aya/Autumn.

[Uruwi]

A demo 505m lunatic replay exists with Aya/Autumn.

Boom. He got 734m.

So the PIV caps at 500k.

[Lollipop]

Easy - Aya
Lollipop - 59,139,620 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay (attached below)

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""world record"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Obviously it goes without saying that this run is literal trash but whatever. Let's see how long it takes before it gets beaten  :V

EDIT:

Easy - Aya
Lollipop - 78,627,670 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Beat my pb my almost 20m, and the wr by over 16m lmao

This can still be vastly improved btw

[CrestedPeak9]

Easy - Aya
Crested - 62,668,370 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay (attached below)

Lollipop really wanted someone to beat his record. So I did  :V
Since I don't have the attach option, here's a dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tj9im7cmw7f71l7/th16_udcrst.rpy?dl=0

[Karisa]

Boom. He got 734m.

So the PIV caps at 500k.

OK, Fall is clearly much better for canceling than Winter. Feels more like GFW's freezes than a standard game, even. I wonder how abusable it is on lower difficulties?

Since I don't have the attach option, here's a dropbox link

Attachment option should show up at 10 posts. In the meantime, I've attached that for you.

[CrestedPeak9]

Thanks for the help. However, after we discovered a crucial part of scoring this game, both of us have new high scores to present.

Easy - Aya
Crested - 79,463,550 - Summer - Trial-c - 0.0% - Replay: https://www.dropbox.com/s/isr37enw0qh633g/th16_udcrs2.rpy?dl=0

Turns out that the amount of PiV gotten from bullets cancels depends how many options you had.
This makes summer release spam better than fall release spam at high levels.
Hence, we've stopped releasing on stages unless it's guaranteed we can make it into the boss with 6 options.
Also, release works fantastic with curvy lasers - further optimization will improve the score.

As for why we're scoring Easy modo, it's the only mode we can score without gameovering :V

[CrestedPeak9]

OK, Fall is clearly much better for canceling than Winter. Feels more like GFW's freezes than a standard game, even. I wonder how abusable it is on lower difficulties?

There's like no bullets to cancel. Summer shines the most here.

Sorry for posting three times in a row, but I just love this game too much.
Turns out, cirno's spread shots can kill fairies pretty quickly, which generates more season items.
Her bomb is also amazing to graze for releases.
As a result of a good run,

Easy - Cirno
Crested - 81,968,620 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1v0b7iiz5il5bd/th16_udcrs3.rpy?dl=0

Easy - Cirno
Crested - 83,855,180 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ufyqyjzw0y3h61/th16_udcrs5.rpy?dl=0

Probably going to try normal scoring now.

Edit:
Normal - Cirno
Crested - 114,882,540 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpwaxwqjq62yb88/th16_udcrs4.rpy?dl=0
Improvable, but overall pretty good.
Better grazing on aunn's final can raise the score even further.

[Karisa]

Now collett's broken the billion mark in the demo. 1.12b with Aya/Autumn. This is getting ridiculous, and it's not even two full days since release.

[Aeteas]

Normal - Aya
Aeteas - 212,337,710 - Winter - Trial-C - 1.1% - Replay

I got 200m on Normal without Autumn options. I imagine Aunn's fight is improvable, since I don't really know what I'm doing. Another improvement would be to find a use for my unused resources. I end with 0 lives, but I have a few accidental deaths along the way. I also have 6 options at certain parts, so it might be possible to do a few extra releases.

Also, in case people don't already know, PIV items actually give points in proportion to your PIV. I think the value is like PIV / 10, rounded to the nearest 10. And it does not scale with your option count, so spamming low level releases might give more direct points. Though I think Autumn is the only one that can clear a good amount of bullets at a low level. With the others, the area is too small. This is part of why Aunn's fight is tricky, since you're building PIV and cashing in at the same time. For stages 1 and 2, PIV is a bit low, so it's probably not worth canceling just for points.

I should try experimenting with Spring. It seems like it plays quite differently.

[WishMakers]

Normal ? Marisa
Wish ? 43,343,110 ? Summer ? Trial-C ? 0.2% - Replay

This probably pales compared to other runs here, but for my first attempt in scoring I'd say it's pretty solid.
Summer has some real untapped potential as a subweapon.  Having up to 6 flash bombs can lead to a lot of bullet cancelling despite how small the radius is.  Using Aya is probably better for this purpose (as she can get in and out of danger quickly) but Marisa scores are underdone :V
The shot itself with Summer is good for picking off small enemies.
This is nowhere near optimal play...failed spell bonuses, unnecessary deaths, and Stage 1 is the only one I routed prior to doing this run.  But I hope some of the strats I used can be used in later scoring, either by myself or someone who is better than I am.

[Aeteas]

Normal - Cirno
Aeteas - 191,024,960 - Spring - Trial-C - 0.8% - Replay

Not especially clean nor optimal, but hopefully it's interesting. Spring is a bit lackluster in the first two stages, but it's pretty good for stage 3. High power releases cover huge areas, so it's perfect for the dense screen-filling patterns in stage 3. It's quite satisfying to cancel out all the bullet lines that the big fairies shoot. Too bad I can't quite recharge to 6 options for all of them on Normal.

One interesting thing about Spring is that releases give you a brief moment of invincibility, so you can use a release and then go up to the spawn point for a bit of graze. You can even chain low level releases on some patterns. To be honest, I'm not sure how useful it is. I didn't bother trying to take advantage of that in this run since Cirno is slow and her bombs already get quite a lot of graze.

[Karisa]

I wonder if Spring might be the better season for Marisa, considering Master Spark's lack of bomb-grazing? Unless the mechanics have changed since the last few games, but much like DDC MarisaA, it seems to be the same old Master Spark with a different coloration.

Edit: collett is up to 1.58 billion.

[SomeGuy712x]

Edit: collett is up to 1.58 billion.

Okay, I just watched it, and wowsers... Imagine if the PIV wasn't capped at 500,000...

[Chill Observer]

I tried scoring for a bit. Turns out I used pretty much the worst option for score and even then I wasn't able to execute any of the major routes correctly. I got pretty mad at all the small things like Eternity Larva ramming me and accidentally dealing too much damage to an attack with a release.

If anyone else wants to score hard mode, particularly with winter, be my guest. I'm not doing this anymore.

Hard - Cirno
Martin - 159,273,680 - Winter - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay (attached)

[Zigzagwolf]

Hard - Marisa
Zigzagwolf - 229,229,590 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

Silly game, run was somewhat fine but definitely not near optimal, still somewhat enjoyable. I should still watch collett's 1.58b run since I've only seen the run that got over 1 billion.

[TresserT]

Lunatic - Cirno
Tres - 495,656,550 - Autumn - Trial - 0.3% - Replay attached

I want to break the 500 million mark but I keep losing all my lives before I can beat Aunn *sob*.

Also, I feel like the scores should be separated by season rather than player, maybe? Autumn Cirno vs Winter Cirno is going to have a much bigger score difference than Autumn Cirno vs Autumn Aya, I think...

[Hurst]

Lunatic - Reimu
Hurst - 254,568,660 - Spring - Trial-C - 0.0% - Screenshot

Lunatic - Aya
Hurst - 518,627,310 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.0% - Screenshot

Lunatic - Cirno
Hurst - 210,193,100 - Summer - Trial-C - 0.0% - Screenshot

Edit:
Lunatic - Aya
Hurst - 717,980,220 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.0% - Screenshot

[WishMakers]

Currently making strides to improve my score in the Marisa category.  Normal is hard enough to get a decent amount of graze, but with no bombgrazing it's certainly ridiculous.  I'm pretty sure I made the correct choice with Summer, however.  Getting the PIV up to 30k-35k on the first stage on Normal isn't too shabby.  (This is completely from Eternity, the enemies don't fire nearly enough bullets to make the releases even worth using)  Combining Summer's small release radius and the optimal method of grazing for Marisa, which is pointblank, it works well for my play style.  That said, I have yet to see any of the Normal replays on this thread, and I'm sure Autumn has a lot more general use.  Room for improvement is always there after all!

Will post another replay in a couple days if I have time to work on my score further this weekend.

[Hakken]

hey first post
Hakken - 196.688.110 - Fall - Trial-C - 0.8% - Replay

Something I made 3 days ago and I'm quite proud of. My goal was 200k but I'm happy enough to do this much without using continues, considering I usually get Game Over on stage 2 (because of stupid deaths)
I don't know if I'll try harder to get 200k or not :<

Also, not related to my run but I stumbled upon this : https://twitter.com/kopiapoa_029/status/862039282734596096

[TresserT]

New one.

Lunatic - Aya
Tres - 563,073,680 - Autumn - (Not Cleared) - 0.4% - Replay attached

[Hurst]

Sorry, I was too lazy to upload replays. Here's the Aya replay atleast!

Lunatic - Aya
Hurst - 717,980,220 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay

[KirbyComment]

Lunatic - Aya
KirbyComment - 1,172,272,450 - Fall - Trial-C -  0.3% - Replay

What a funny game this is for score, considering scoring can give about 30 times the score that an LNNN would get. Couple of days of effort went into it. Run still has many mistakes, most notably Stage 3 where I made some big panic moves. Probably won't score the full game so I'll leave it at this. I don't see myself clearing if I dash into bosses all the time, but it was fun to attempt scoring it as a little side project.

Meanwhile Collett raised his score to 1.837b! Thanks for his newer strategies so I was able to score more than I was expected to get at first.

[Aeteas]

Lunatic - Aya
Aeteas - 1,070,376,260 - Spring - Trial-C - 0.4% - Replay

Spring is fun. It's noticeably better on Lunatic since there's actually bullets in the stage portions. Too bad it deals no damage, and it can crash the game if you cancel too well. There's a couple mistakes and suboptimal stuff in this run, and I imagine there's some parts where my route can be improved. Maybe 1.2 billion is possible?

At this point, I'm fairly certain Aya is the best scoring character. Her bomb and speed is just too good for grazing. For the trial, it might be worth squeezing out a few more bombs, but I think I'd probably have to save some more resources for the full game. I end this run with 2 spare lives after getting all the score extends. If you add the Lily White extend I missed and the life that presumably gets dropped by the stage 5 midboss, that's only 4 lives for the latter half game. I don't think that's enough unless you're playing Autumn or ZUN decides to increase the number of lives. And if it turns out lives actually add a decent amount to the clear bonus, finding reduced bomb strats will be even more important.

Meanwhile Collett raised his score to 1.837b! Thanks for his newer strategies so I was able to score more than I was expected to get at first.

I think the comment on his submission says that the true last boss of the trial version is the stage 1 sunflower fairies. I haven't scored Autumn, but looking at his replay, that's looks pretty true. I wonder how many times he reset over those.

[Jimmy]

Spring at level 5-6 literally skyrockets the PIV if detonated in dense patterns, particularly in stage 3. Still died a bunch of silly deaths, gotta go fix these.

Hard - Reimu
Jimmy - 114,551,230 - Spring - Trial-C - 0.0% - Replay attached

[Kurzov]

Easy - Aya
kurzov - 1,968,130 - Spring - Trial-2 - 0.1% - [attach=1]

Easy - Marisa
kurzov - 2,736,560 - Winter - Trial-2 - 0.1% - [attach=2]

Easy - Reimu
kurzov - 12,758,550 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.1% - Download through RoyalFlare OR Direct Download: [attach=3]

[Kurzov]

Update to the last post:

Improved my score by about 200,000 points.

Easy - Reimu
kurzov - 12,933,580 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.5% - Direct Download: [attach=1]

Spoiler:

Edit 1:

Easy - Cirno
kurzov - 11,521,830 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.62% - Download from RoyalFlare

[Kurzov]

Spoiler:

Props to me for forgetting this one, how does different sub-season entries from the same person work?

Easy - Marisa
kurzov - 10,858,220 - Autumn - Trial-C - 0.77% - Download from RoyalFlare