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| 弹幕音乐绘 ～风雷幻奏曲～(Barrage Musical ～A Fantasy of Tempest～)(Ultra Mode Added) |
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| rsy_type1:
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| BlueDigitalDragon:
I finally beat Ultra, holy hell the resource management I needed for that and memorizing all the patterns and times to bomb. Frenio and the Mysterious Figure have updated and much more intense final spells. So many times losing to the final spell in its last section because its completely different. I also used so much auto-dodge time >_> Managed to get all the achievements too! Now to wait until they bust out a sequel! I'd love to see a minimal bomb run or minimal auto-dodge time run for it, I don't believe anyone has put up an ultra run on youtube too. |
| williewillus:
I found what appears to be an ultra score run on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZWDG7W67kI as expected, it's mostly spamming bombs, but there was considerable dodging chops too (timing when to finish attacks to skip hard parts, safespots, all that business) |
| Despatche:
Was planning on bumping this myself. Really cool game, most fun I've had with a touhoulike in a long while. I'm not a giant fan of the shot types given, but I almost never am in a touhoulike. Type B is fun enough, but I hate Misty's choice of bomb for it. --- Quote from: TresserT on January 15, 2018, 10:37:25 AM ---So this ultra difficulty isn't like len'en's absurdly extra or the typical touhou ultra patches. While it's insanely hard, it's a legitimate difficulty. It's not just "add more bullets and increase the speed", several patterns have brand new features or segments, some totally reworked altogether. Just thought that was worth pointing out. --- End quote --- Make fun of Tasouken and Reiretsuden ABEX, but leave Mugenri ABEX alone. That stage is legit, and is proof that ABEX was never meant to be a joke. JynX has said at least once that he made the later ABEXs as dumb as they are because playtesters asked, and Flash Bombs allowed him to get away with a lot that he couldn't have gotten away with in Mugenri. It should be noted that those three games got the v1.1 rebalances which take some of the edge off of ABEX, but they make the entire rest of the game jank as a consequence. ABEX is only called an "intentional joke difficulty" because people obsess over the "advertising"; words like "Absurdly" and the descriptions telling you that you aren't human if you can play this. No, really, that is the exact excuse I am always given when I ask. Problem is, every Touhou Lunatic/Extra and this game's Ultra do that too. At some point, people need to realize that the bar is really low for touhoulikes, and most programmers are just throwing whatever on a wall and hoping it sticks. There are very few programmers that are so deeply concerned with putting an actually great game together. It looks like things are getting better, until someone like JynX decides to drop a near-joke game like Teneisenki that becomes beloved for all the wrong reasons. I really hate saying that, because developing that game almost killed him, but it is what it is. I'm still upset about Arcade Mode, damn it. The topic of this thread is a little spotty with certain patterns, but the developer clearly tried really hard to put together something great (despite their protestations), and it shows. Games like this need to be studied intensely. But games like Mugenri and co. also need to be studied intensely, because there are tons of ideas in these "half-baked" games that could be put to better use. |
| TresserT:
--- Quote from: Despatche on April 22, 2018, 05:06:34 PM ---Snip. --- End quote --- You completely missed the point of my post. Regardless of whether len'en ABEX or touhou ultra patches are meant to be taken seriously or not, they're still just "same pattern with more or faster bullets". My whole point was, in this game, that's not the case. Here the difference between Lunatic and Ultra is like the difference between Normal and Hard in typical touhou games. A lot of patterns have brand new additional layers to them, some are even completely different in concept. I'm not making fun of anything. I wasn't trying to imply that this is, like, easier than ABEX either; this is still really freaking hard if you don't abuse autododge. |
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