Touhou Accomplishments V3

[LHCling]

Get to work  :V

[nintendonut888]

Fighting Syou again (I still have no idea how her red lasers in her opener are aimed BTW, and they're the most dangerous part of the attack), I get walled against Aura of Justice with no bombs (god damn her second non-spell), it's closing in, and just for kicks, I see if I can fit through the 100% thick wall.

I did. o_O I ended up timing the card out, but I wasn't expecting that to be possible.

BTW, I think I'm starting to get the hang of Radiant Treasure Gun. It's less scary when you realize the curving laser cannot hit you at the bottom of the screen.

[ebarrett]

Are 49 tries too much for a lunatic Life Spring Infinity capture?
What about 127 for Hourai Jewel?
WHO CARES?  :V

On a side note, now that I know how to switch directions properly on it (took me about 110 tries to figure it out), I'm pretty sure that Hourai Jewel is actually a lot easier than Life Spring Infinity which still feels like luck-based bullshit to me and will remain tagged with "autobomb".

[Azinth]

...Life Spring Infinity which still feels like luck-based bullshit to me and will remain tagged with "autobomb".

-Move between the lasers
-Read the stars and get through them
-Get underneath Kaguya before she sends the halo shot out (avoid the lasers as you do this, but don't worry too much as their spawning speed is slower than the animation makes you think)
-Repeat

I still have no idea how this 'LSI is luckgarbage' myth ever got started.  It's her second easiest boss card and I've had like a 95% capture rate on it ever since I learned how to do it.  I mean, getting through the stars can be tricky at first, but it's nothing that 15-20 minutes of spell practice can't do.  :V

[ebarrett]

-Move between the lasers
-Read the stars and get through them
-Get underneath Kaguya before she sends the halo shot out (avoid the lasers as you do this, but don't worry too much as their spawning speed is slower than the animation makes you think)
-Repeat

That's still three different things to read (Kaguya's position, laser grid, and upwards-moving double-crisscrossing outwards-expanding circular ring of stars), and each of them is changing positions in relation to each other every wave, because the stars are two "cycles" behind Kaguya, and the lasers are one.

I still have no idea how this 'LSI is luckgarbage' myth ever got started.  It's her second easiest boss card and I've had like a 95% capture rate on it ever since I learned how to do it.  I mean, getting through the stars can be tricky at first, but it's nothing that 15-20 minutes of spell practice can't do.  :V

Well, then maybe I just suck at reading it because I just spent these 15-20 minutes and only captured the damn thing out of luck - I'm pretty sure I went through some stars, as in, through the exact middle of their hitboxes - without getting any insight beyond "read, move, pray".

Then again, two weeks ago I hadn't 1cc'ed IN's hard, and last time I checked you were trying fancy stuff like no-bombs lunatic EoSD.  :V

[Azinth]

That's still three different things to read (Kaguya's position, laser grid, and upwards-moving double-crisscrossing outwards-expanding circular ring of stars), and each of them is changing positions in relation to each other every wave, because the stars are two "cycles" behind Kaguya, and the lasers are one.

It's just a matter of knowing what's dangerous and what's not, and when.  If you try to focus on all of those at once, the information overload will probably get you killed, so you have to focus on one at a time.  Remember that even though the lasers and stars appear at the same time, the lasers don't actually become lethal until after the stars have passed, so focus on the stars.  After that, the rest is just quickly ducking into a safespot.

Well, then maybe I just suck at reading it because I just spent these 15-20 minutes and only captured the damn thing out of luck - I'm pretty sure I went through some stars, as in, through the exact middle of their hitboxes - without getting any insight beyond "read, move, pray".

Then again, two weeks ago I hadn't 1cc'ed IN's hard, and last time I checked you were trying fancy stuff like no-bombs lunatic EoSD.  :V

But I was capturing LSI long before I was capable of no-bombing anything. :V   And yeah the 15-20 minute comment was me being my over-exaggerating self, so sorry bout that.  The stars, like I said, can be tricky, but  they never actually wall you.  With a bit more practice you should get a good feel for how the pattern unfolds.

[The Greatest Dog]

Although it's nothing special, this replay shows more of a personal accomplishment.

Why? Star Maelstrom is the single reason I'm happy about it.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5074

[nintendonut888]

Sooooo...You know how you all say UFO lunatic is utter bullshit? Completely impossible?

Well...on a whim, I decided to try my first UFO lunatic 1cc attempt. I knew I wouldn't make it because the very idea of it is lol, and as I thought it took 6 tries to get out of stage 1.

But then...you know, the practice. I've played almost every stage in this game over 50 times, and it kind of substituted all the lunatic grinding I was supposed to be doing.

So when I reached Murasa with max lives...

And Syou with 5...

And Byakuren with 4...

Well...

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=5076

You see...



Yeah. Now you guys have no excuse. I freaking beat UFO lunatic my FIRST TRY, not counting the effort to unlock it for stage practice. I guess this means I've regained my title of all shooters cleared.

[LHCling]

First try; but that's because you had plenty more advice / practice than me. Reaching Murasa with max lives just set you up for it, really.

Now get working on those Perfect Stages.

[nintendonut888]

First try; but that's because you had plenty more advice / practice than me. Reaching Murasa with max lives just set you up for it, really.

Now get working on those Perfect Stages.

;_;

* Donut cries in the corner, having felt the sting of BaitySMMS

Frankly, I hardly feel I deserve this 1cc, even if it was merely the result of hours of stage practice rather than full run grinding.

[LHCling]

Well, considering the sheer amount of frustration I went through...  >_>

...actually, I feel like watching through your 1cc now.

Done. Did an evaluation overall as you already know  :V

[Sapz]

UFO Lunatic 1cc on my first attempt

jhasdkhkadhaagjdadjhafjafdgkl;jhc ;_;

Congrats, man. That's insane.

[Zengeku]

Not all that surprising. I think the difficulty of UFO is overrated. Its the nature of the spellcards that make the game appear harder than it is. A lot of things can be solved through bombing after all.

No, the real deal is perfecting stages in it.

Seriously, the game gives you lives like nothing else. On my Hard 1CC, i died twice to Ichirin, died once to Murasa and once to Shou but still managed to reach Byakuren with 6 lives.

[nintendonut888]

In that case, stop bitching about it people, it's really not as hard as you all make it out to be. Personally I think SA lunatic is harder.

[LHCling]

UFO Lunatic No Focus attempt.

Forgot to tag it as such.

[Zengeku]

In that case, stop bitching about it people, it's really not as hard as you all make it out to be. Personally I think SA lunatic is harder.

The only thing i'm bitching about is the spellcards. Its the easiest Hard clear i've done but the most frustration i've had from spell capturing and i haven't even got started on Stage 4 Lunatic yet mainly because of a lurking feeling of dread for the spellcards. Capturing cards are much more fun in earlier games. At least those didn't spam super-bright animated bullets and curving lasers.

[Zengeku]

Double posting in order to be epic.

I just started grinding UFO Stage 4 Lunatic. To be fair, the stage is much better than Stage 3. A billion times better music and much more doable danmaku. The boss is hard but seemingly managable for the most part so all in all, a better stage than number 3. That's a new one.

So i captured Murasa's first spellcard which is lol-easy as well as her time-out card in just 3 tries. The only part about it is the final seconds. Kind of like QED.

I'm off to spam the spellcard help topic!

[Krimmydoodle]

Sooooo...You know how you all say UFO lunatic is utter bullshit? Completely impossible?

Not impossible, but still hard as shit.  Even when I do 1cc it (I'm going to say "when" and not "if" there as a form of self-motivation), I'm still going to think it's the hardest game, and will likely maintain the belief that it requires above and beyond the par level of skill required in previous games.  You can say all you want how the game gives you fucktons of lives, but that's fucktons of lives -if you can chain the UFOs- (remind me to watch some replays to learn how to do this better).  Every other game gives you reasonable amounts of lives, and you don't have to do much more than dash to the PoC once in a while (or, in SA, don't have to do much more than "don't die").

In any case, I'm falling horribly out of practice in Touhou, between starting school/flu/strep throat/forcing myself out of my room to interact with my apartmentmates/top secret work.  It's not impossible, and I want to get it done, but it'll be a while until I can actually put in the proper time to get this shit down.

[Zengeku]

There is a lot of questions about UFO to which No is the answer.

Is it impossible?, Are the spellcards fun? and "Are the stages well designed?" for example.

1CC'ing might not be the biggest trouble but its most likely going to be through bomb-spamming impossible sections and doing the managable sections without fail. The margin for error is small while at all other difficulties, enormous.

[nintendonut888]

The stages are just fine, god! If you can accept stage 4 midboss Orin and the later half of PCB stage 3 and the books of EoSD, why can't you accept anything else? I personally like this game MUCH more than SA.

EDIT: Also, if you're worried about chaining UFOs, watch my replay. I developed a bit of a strategy from stage practices, but all that chaining I did was all impromptu without any deeper thought, and I still got about 11 lives or so (I honestly don't know how many I got). And this was with Reimu A, the one that moves slowly while bombing and is handicapped collecting UFOs.

EDIT 2: As for the BS spell cards, Baity said it last night best: UFO places a much larger emphasis on patterns and micromemorization than previous games. Many many attacks appear to be impossible, but if you play them enough you'll realize that they're not as random as you thought they were.

Also, I realize reluctantly that there is nothing left. TIME TO QUIT I wonder what I should do next? That isn't perfecting EoSD extra?

[Sapz]

Just tried MS Lunatic for the first time. Wasted nine bombs due to dying with them in stock and still got to Shinki's cheeto lasers before getting a game over. This shouldn't take that long to 1cc.

@Donut: Much as I'd like to say that EoSD Extra is the only available option, you could always try learning to play for score. I know how reluctant you are to try that; I was at first, too, but Matsuri's managed to convince me the other way, and it's actually really fun, PCB in particular. You might as well give it a go. :V

[Matsuri]

Do it  :V

[c l e a r]

I took a little break from UFO and decided to finally unlock Stage 4 Practice for MarisaC (Nitori), I think I know how to do Trauma now.  Now it's just Great Whirlwind for ReimuC I need to figure out.

I went all the way to Stage 6 and got the bad ending.  Man, that bomb is so freaking ass to use on Nuclear Fusion.  But after that, it proved very useful in Meltdown and Last Card.  Bad Shot type/Bomb is still bad etc.

[Zengeku]

The stages are just fine, god! If you can accept stage 4 midboss Orin and the later half of PCB stage 3 and the books of EoSD, why can't you accept anything else? I personally like this game MUCH more than SA.

EDIT: Also, if you're worried about chaining UFOs, watch my replay. I developed a bit of a strategy from stage practices, but all that chaining I did was all impromptu without any deeper thought, and I still got about 11 lives or so (I honestly don't know how many I got). And this was with Reimu A, the one that moves slowly while bombing and is handicapped collecting UFOs.

EDIT 2: As for the BS spell cards, Baity said it last night best: UFO places a much larger emphasis on patterns and micromemorization than previous games. Many many attacks appear to be impossible, but if you play them enough you'll realize that they're not as random as you thought they were.

Also, I realize reluctantly that there is nothing left. TIME TO QUIT I wonder what I should do next? That isn't perfecting EoSD extra?

Patterns that require micromemorization = bad.

Stage 4 midboss Orin is easy (except for when the spirits blow up) and the game allows bombspam because of the power system. I have done PCB Stage 3 no-focus no-deaths no-bombs. And the books of EoSD seems to be managable with a bomb as the only problem.

[Slaves]

so, uh

Donut wins, i guess.

[Serela]

Also, I realize reluctantly that there is nothing left. TIME TO QUIT I wonder what I should do next? That isn't perfecting EoSD extra?

Get the "All Clear" stamp for all difficulties and shot types in PoFV, MoF, SA, and UFO. Its good practice, and the suckier shot types make it a new challenge. Then again, doing it with the really sucky shot types is just masochistic.

IaMP normal 1cc all characters
IN lunatic 1cc, extra clear all shot types no deaths, all spell cards captured
PoFV lunatic 1cc, Aya, extra clear
MoF lunatic 1cc, extra clear no deaths, all spell cards captured

Using Aya/Medicine and saying you 1cced PoFV Lunatic is cheating cheap! 

Which is why I've been doing Hard on the other characters and practicing for Lunatic, which seems doable now. Which brings me to an actual accomplishment in this post of trolling suggestions; 1cced PoFV Hard with Reimu and Shikieiki. With Reimu the first 8 stages took half as long, but fighting Shikieiki... AUGHHITBOXES. At least fighting Aya is just constant streaming with unfocused jumps now and then.

[Zengeku]

Captured Sinkable Vortex. Now the only thing remaining is the horrible "Eternally Anchored Ghost Ship" card. I don't want to attempt it any further today though. I want to have some fun now.

[nintendonut888]

Frankly, I just don't care about PoFV. Aya may be cheap, but she's not cheating and for that game that's good enough for me. 'sides, I still beat extra.

And no thanks for all shot types. =_= My experiences capturing all of Satori's cards was quite enough thanks.

And god I would be so terrible if I actually tried to play for score. For kicks I occasionally try to grazewhore and just end up dying. I find that when I try to hit bullets to suicide, I miss them, and when I just try to graze them, I die miserably. >_>

Hmm, maybe I'll try clearing SA extra with all characters to see their dialogue...that sounds like it'd be a good waste of time. Or maybe I could actually pay attention to the workload from school in danger of overflowing...nah...

[Sapz]

And god I would be so terrible if I actually tried to play for score. For kicks I occasionally try to grazewhore and just end up dying. I find that when I try to hit bullets to suicide, I miss them, and when I just try to graze them, I die miserably. >_>

That still happens to me all the time. <_< I'm slowly getting better at it, though; all it requires is some practice, just like playing for survival.

[Sodium]

Zengeku: If Hourai Jewel is not your least favourite card ever, you lie about disliking micromemorization.

Is it impossible?, Are the spellcards fun? and "Are the stages well designed?" for example.

Actually, the proper answer for those is "your opinion here". Good job getting the answer to that wrong.