Fire Emblem Heroes: Like Fire Emblem But It's Chibi And It Lives In Your Phone

[hyorinryu]

Have a featured character on your team, get double the points of not.

Higher level opponents yield higher point payouts so in order to maximize you'd need to face the horrors of peoples' Lv. 40(or higher, via plusses gained by eating equal-or-higher-rarity dupes) teams in Advanced battles.

Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one?  I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.

My Tiki seems to be underperforming. Feels like she gets 1-shot when she runs into anyone notable.

[OverlordChirei]

*Gasp* Posted PAD shit in Fire Emblem board. Disregard.

ewwwwww shun him

[commandercool]

Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one?  I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.

Honestly... No? I have a team with three level 40s and a level 38, I have a win streak of seven wins on the highest difficulty, and I'm still pretty far down in the lowest possible rank. I think the ranking system just isn't built to handle the number of people playing the game since it's numerical and not proportional, so you pretty much have to be a whale or exploiting the scoring mechanic in a pretty specific way to even get close to a decent rank. Having a low-level team unfortunately probably won't get you there.

That said, you should still definitely play PVP no matter where you are in the game. It's free experience and you get stuff for any ranking level. And it's not hard to max out on points in every category except actual ranking, so getting reasonable numbers of feathers is still attainable.

My Tiki seems to be underperforming. Feels like she gets 1-shot when she runs into anyone notable.

Is she underleveled? Maybe she just has weird level up results. I've been noticing lately that my Takumi has a solid 15 HP less than like any enemy Takumi I ever see. It's honestly not a huge problem since enemies generally can't double him or one-shot him so it's not worth much in a practical sense, but it seems to highlight just how swingy stat growths can be. I would expect there might be a mechanic eventually to even that out (maybe the aforementioned additional use for excess skill points?), but for now as far as I know it is possible to just get bad level ups unfortunately.

[OverlordChirei]

I'm still pretty far down in the lowest possible rank.

what does it give you for adv wins, I get anywhere from 598 to 612 as my cap

also not dying helps a lot with score

[Mеа]

also not dying helps a lot with score

eh really? it factors in your remaining units? gotta change up my game plan

[OverlordChirei]

eh really? it factors in your remaining units? gotta change up my game plan

I lose about 50 points or so for every unit that died so yeah

[BT]

I lose about 50 points or so for every unit that died so yeah

Accurate

The three things that matter:
-bonus characters (at least one)
-stat total (so: five stars, level 40, armor knights)
-number of lost units

Since I'm sitting at one five star unit, I'm content with staying in the 50,000 - 100,000 range. 80,000th right now, hope I survive for twelve hours...

EDIT:


Yay

My strategy, btw, was to put Fluffmaster Lissa as team figurehead. Arena players have a tendency to go for the defenseless healers just as much as the AI does

[Conqueror]

I've been noticing lately that my Takumi has a solid 15 HP less than like any enemy Takumi I ever see.

Apparently units have IVs(?) like in Pokemon with a lvl 40 variation of about 6 (+3/-3) stat points for any one stat, so your Takumi might be -HP compared to the average (mine is -Atk/+Res).

[Garlyle]

Does it matter whether you have more than one featured person once you have one?  I'm starting to wonder how feasible it is for me to hit the highest tiers. My highest is my lvl 30 Marth atm. Next highest is around early 20s.

I'm to understand you get the biggest boost from the first featured character (estimated +100% score); each additional featured character still gives about +30% more score (additive).  So one featured character is 2x the standard value; but all four is around 3x.

Apparently units have IVs(?) like in Pokemon with a lvl 40 variation of about 6 (+3/-3) stat points for any one stat, so your Takumi might be -HP compared to the average (mine is -Atk/+Res).

Our current understanding is largely that units have a standard set of level 1 and level 40 stats.  Each unit will have one enhanced stat (+1 at level 1; +3 at level 40), and one reduced stat from that.  However, while the growths head towards the same endpoint, when units get those stat points can vary quite a bit, it seems.

[OverlordChirei]

Can confirm, my Felicia is apparently +3 ATK/-3SPD... unsure if that's actually a good thing.

also rip my fuggin arena rank, too many 40/40/40/40 people now

[commandercool]

Hmm, that makes sense. I generally get a little over 550 points for a win, but my arena strategy generally has two of my characters die. That makes ranged characters much better than I thought and healers and fliers much worse. Hmm.

That honestly sucks in a lot of ways, it legitimately makes anything that flies crazy underpowered in Takumi meta, but I guess I can't reeeeally fault the game for rewarding what should theoretically be good plays. Rewarding risky plays is interesting even if the game isn't really balanced enough for that to be ideal.

How are people determining what their "IVs" are? I imagine it has to do with comparison to other similar units, but is there an easy database to compare to? I don't mind that that system a ton since unlike in Pokemon there are no useless stats in Heroes (since no physical/ special or magic split on offense in this game). Although getting +speed on an armor knight sucks.



Yeah, I don't buy it champ. I've played your games.

[OverlordChirei]

How are people determining what their "IVs" are? I imagine it has to do with comparison to other similar units, but is there an easy database to compare to?

There's something on gamewith complete with an english translation button that has some vanilla stats of 5* units, but it's incomplete or may be inaccurate. As far as I can tell, it's at least accurate for all the pre-5* and Felicia.

[Mеа]

Six more stones from the launch special missions so go get those now guys >>>>>
I'm at 44 stones so whenever you want to release those new units Nintendo

[commandercool]

Finally pulled another 5*, but it's Jakob. Can't help but be underwhelmed. He doesn't really seem like he does much. He's basically a filler 4* that I happened to pull at 5*. Unless his stats end up being really interesting once leveled, which is possible I guess.

Eyeing him suspiciously considering throwing him in the husbando dumpster to get female Corrin to 5* faster... We'll see I guess.

[OverlordChirei]

Finally pulled another 5*, but it's Jakob. Can't help but be underwhelmed. He doesn't really seem like he does much. He's basically a filler 4* that I happened to pull at 5*. Unless his stats end up being really interesting once leveled, which is possible I guess.

Eyeing him suspiciously considering throwing him in the husbando dumpster to get female Corrin to 5* faster... We'll see I guess.

jakob in fates had better str/def than felicia and that seems to be true here, but the problem is that he is locked to being a butler, which ideally no one kept him as because he was a terrible butler and also possibly a terrible person

[commandercool]

Yeah I remember him in Fates. And I remember that he was really mediocre. When I say "interesting" what I actually mean is "freakishly, Takumi-tanking levels of high defense". Probably not, but maybe..?

[OverlordChirei]

Yeah I remember him in Fates. And I remember that he was really mediocre. When I say "interesting" what I actually mean is "freakishly, Takumi-tanking levels of high defense". Probably not, but maybe..?

like, if you invert felicia's stats that does translate into pretty good def

but why do that when you can just tank with xander and use felicia anyway because she doesn't heal for like 2

[commandercool]

Wait, are we talking about Fates now? Use neither because Elise is the best possible healer, Bifrost proficiency be damned. Just never die.

[OverlordChirei]

Wait, are we talking about Fates now? Use neither because Elise is the best possible healer, Bifrost proficiency be damned. Just never die.

there is no universal fire emblem thread so why not

you gotta debuff all the dudes tho

same case for heroes just debuff all the dudes

[Edible]

After much cogitation, I have determined that this game is suffering from a criminal lack of L'Arachel.

[Garlyle]

After much cogitation, I have determined that this game is suffering from a criminal lack of L'Arachel.

Well, we're expecting Sacred Stones character very soon, and being how early in the game she shows up I imagine it's possible.

[commandercool]

I really like how the starter characters always seem to be featured arena characters. Makes upgrading them theoretically a great investment. They're bad, but they shouldn't be so bad you can't win with them at all on offense with an otherwise good team.

Now if they would just stop featuring Takumi we could shake up the meta a bit, although I see the benefit of repeatedly featuring the five-stars from the special event to include more people.

I've been realizing that the main thing I have trouble against is, fairly unsurprisingly, Azura. Given that she's my absolute top-ranked, number one character for Fates lunatic and if anything she's even more powerful in Heroes, that's gotta be expected. Now I guess I just need to focus on figuring out how to consistently bait her into making bad plays. It should be possible on most maps at least. 

Meanwhile I've got enough feathers that I can take my four-star female Corrin (upgraded fron a three-star) up to five stars next week. Maybe not the most optimal use of feathers, but I love how well she and Camilla work together.

[BT]

I really like how the starter characters always seem to be featured arena characters. Makes upgrading them theoretically a great investment. They're bad, but they shouldn't be so bad you can't win with them at all on offense with an otherwise good team.

Now if they would just stop featuring Takumi we could shake up the meta a bit, although I see the benefit of repeatedly featuring the five-stars from the special event to include more people.

Well, they haven't changed the featured guys since launch, right? It's just the focus group and Alphonse & Shareena.

[commandercool]

Have they not changed at all? Maybe the order has at least changed. I thought they had changed a bit but I'm probably wrong I guess.

[Chaore]

Have they not changed at all? Maybe the order has at least changed. I thought they had changed a bit but I'm probably wrong I guess.

They probably won't until the next focii are up.

And guess what they'll be then, if I had any guess.

[Mеа]

Four new characters! And all fairly lackluster seeming skill wise

[OverlordChirei]

ok boys equip those weak weapons all you want to level up lowbies

[BT]

ok boys equip those weak weapons all you want to level up lowbies

All we really need is EXP Share, get on that shit pls

[commandercool]

Oh dang, new characters so soon? Not bad. Hopefully we get some more characters from these games later along, but I'm impressed by how quick this was. Not necessarily that impressed by the stats on any of them, but they're definitely not awful.

And of course the five-stars remain weighted toward swords. Which is fine by me I guess since my blue character is also a dragon, so the more diluted the pool gets the fewer Falchion users we should see. Not great news for Camilla, but is reasonably good news for Corrin.

[commandercool]

Most tier lists seem to have Lin ranked on the low end of the sword lords, but I've been really happy with her so far. Gale Force is surprisingly practical and it's not hard to get her into +7 attack double hit mode since virtually nothing can double her and nothing short of a very strong hit with weapon advantage can one-shot her. Brave weapons are a bit of an issue, but as long as you play around those she's very dangerous.