The final Touhou game

[JoonK]

Let's face it. Within the next ten years, Mr. ZUN over in Japan is gonna get liver failure, ragequit when he finds endings posted on Pooshlmer, or (for some reason) simply decide that Touhou is not worth making anymore.

He will announce it on his blog, making it clear that his next game will be the last.

What do you think would happen in this FINAL game?  Or rather, what do you WANT to have happen in this swan song from Team Shanghai Alice?

And what the hell would happen to the fanbase?

Personally, I would want the final game to be like Concealed the Conclusion. Incorporate all of the characters, by simply having the different shot types face different bosses. Have a spell practice mode, with Last Word-like cards for the player characters and those who didn't appear in the main game. Have Reimu and Marisa be ONLY playable characters. And for the gimmick, let's just have supernatural borders back, it was an easy to use system. Overall, make sure nobody gets left behind LOL. Also have a satisfying ending (Gensokyo disappears, Marisa turns out to be the mastermind of every incident in the games, something epic along those lines)

For the fanbase, I think that the fancomics will still continue, there's a lot to work with in the universe, but the music circles will run out of songs to mix. I think that the whole series will receive more public attention, for a short time at least. I am actually not so sure about what would happen.

tl;dr- What do you want to see (or what you expect to happen) in THE LAST Touhou game? And what do you think would happen to the fanbase?

INB4 "he said he would continue making games even if there was no fanbase", that's why I'm citing health concerns and such.

[Jana]

ZUN IS A BEER GOD.

TOUHOU WILL NEVER DIE.

If it did though, I'd be satisfied with as many existing characters as possible and the return of Spell Practice.

[Letty Whiterock]

I've said it before, but when ZUN gives up Touhou, Tasofro will pick it up. Calling it now.

[Slaves]

well now i'm sad because of this post ;_;

and i really don't want to make predictions (or even believe that Touhou will end, the whole "I reject your reality and substitute me own" kinda thing) about it.

looking at games like MOTHER, i think the fanbase will continue to strive even if the games end. and i'm sure that plenty of Doujin circles will make top-notch games to keep us occupied.


also, who knows, ZUN might have some secret little minion he trained to continue Touhou after he's done with it.

[JoonK]

I've said it before, but when ZUN gives up Touhou, Tasofro will pick it up. Calling it now.

That is a future I am NOT anticipating...
Unless they remove 8-way flight and weather from future games, bring it back to IaMP  :V

[Bias Bus]

I'd like to see it end just to see how epic the last game will be.

Final game would be great if ZUN used Sariel ala EoE type of deal, imagine a boss fight against what is essentially a planet sized Angel of Death taking in all the souls of the known world. I want the last game to be as dark and mindfuck-y as possible. Let's see if ZUN can actually make something that's creepy enough to keep me up at night.

Also even if it does finish, the fanbase will NOT let it die. Doujin circles will most likely continue making games and I suppose the theory of Tasfro picking up on it is a reasonable outcome as well.

[shinyjam]

How heavy of a drinker is Zun anyway?

[Xelotath]

Official Touhou games are ZUN. I don't think anybody else could make the games like he does, especially the music and characters. Fandom will continue to exist but everyone will be sad except those who don't even play the games. For now I'll live in denial that touhou will ever end.

[Bias Bus]

How heavy of a drinker is Zun anyway?

Not as heavy as people think, I bet.

[G_gglypuff]

I think that the last game won't have anything specially different from the others. It would be simply another game, because ZUN's view would still be the same, and it wouldn't die if he got tired of making games or actually died.

It would be one of those things like Star Wars: there will always be fans. The difference is that there's far more to see in Touhou when compared to Star Wars, so the material couldn't simply die...

[cleartailcat]

Touhou will never die. Never ever EVAR.

That or ZUN puts Gensoukyo on hiatus, and makes another parallel universe that's somehow connected and create another series. But it's gonna be terribly overrated and overestimated because of all the attention he has already.

[Nine West]

Topic

A bit of a copypasta...

I agree on the 'NO NEW CHARACTERS' statement; Touhou already have more than enough cast to work with.

If ZUN is going to make a last Touhou game, these are what I want him to do:

• Include nearly all Touhou game characters to date, including the PC-98 ones (with a bit of update). For characters that have appeared in both (e.g. Alice and Yuka), just use the Windows version of them (ZUN must follow the 'NO NEW CHARACTERS' idea to not make this a bigger pain than it already is). ZUN already had most of the Windows characters all in StB, so I would image that this is possible.
• Include most of the music tracks that he has done for the games (keep individual character themes for the characters), and some tracks from the individual albums that he has made would also be welcome.
• For loads and loads of characters, the tournament plot is the easiest to work with. The 'stages' could be done in Phantasmagoria-style 'episodes' without using the 2-player gameplay itself. Though, if he is creative, he could put Co-op mode somewhere in the game.
• Every character does not need to be playable; I am content enough with just seeing all of them in the game (not just in the credits).
• Multiple (or branching) storylines would be nice; we shouldn't fight everybody in one run, instead, there should be choices (or gimmicks) in the game that affects who we fight in the story. Also, main characters would have different stories than one another; that way, he could incorporate all the characters to the game easier.
• To support the above, there should be more main (playable) characters than Reimu and Marisa as well (he could do what he did in IN for this). For every major factions of the Gensokyo residents, there should be at least one main character (e.g. Hakurei Shrine: Reimu, Forest of Magic: Marisa, Scarlet Devil Mansion: Sakuya, Eientei: Reisen). Main characters could appear as bosses in other main characters' story modes.
• The Spell Card Practice mode should allow any of the playable characters to fight against any of the characters in the game.

Try to actually draw the characters decently Lastly, he should do all of this the best he can. The list above is pretty demanding, but if the 'official' Touhou series is going to end, at least let it go out with a bang (no pun intended).

... Scratch all that, ZUN can do whatever he wants...

[shinyjam]

It would be epic if the last game connect everything about pc-98 and bring Mima and everyone else back as bosses.

[Chainsaw Guitar]

I've said it before, but when ZUN gives up Touhou, Tasofro will pick it up. Calling it now.

Or, he could just give it to his school buddies at Amusement Makers.

[Apotheosis]

Three words:

First

Person

Shooter

[nintendonut888]

I'd hate it if the series ended like CtC, because that'd mean that everything in the series would have to come to an end. I honestly believe that the end to Touhou will be sudden and/or not have any sort of climax at all.

And that Mima will still not ever appear. :V

[Caber Knight Etch-A-Sketch]

Final game should be massive

many levels, each one with one of the older characters. near the end, you face off against two final lolies in boss battles.

Extra Stage, you face off against Mima

Phantasm stage, you face off against the big guy himself, ZUN.

[shadowbringer]

following the example of Trouble Shooter, just make it another episode; it doesn't tell the fans that the game is really the last one, and allows the creator to change his/her mind later and resume the series.

If I were ZUN, and were to troll the fans, I'd make every of the former episodes be a mere dream or sort of fiction from Maribel. Or follow the Valis example

[wailofthebanshee]

The whole cast of EoSD except for koakuma to be executed in the most brutal way possible.

[Cadmas]

I've said it before, but when ZUN gives up Touhou, Tasofro will pick it up. Calling it now.

Or, he could just give it to his school buddies at Amusement Makers.

I'm pretty sure he hates those guys.  :V
Anyways aren't topics like these forbidden for something?

[Patorikku]

If anything, the final game would go like this:

Reimu and Marisa decide it's time for the biggest festival at the Hakurei Shrine ever. They invite everyone they've ever fought, excluding one-shots like Rumia, Daiyou, Koa, Letty (not like she could come in the summer anyways), etc., and make the Hakurei shrine become a HUGE hit. The problem? No sake, beer, etc. So they fly off to go ask all the guest uninvited which have grown significantly in power, and the final boss will be none other than the remaining two Devas of the Mountain! Actually, scratch that, they're the penultimates. The REAL final boss is none other than ZUN! Extra boss is actually an extra boss runthrough, as in you face ALL the extra bosses. That's right, you face Mugetu (forgive me if I'm wrong on that one), Yuka, Alice, Flandre, Ran and Yukari together, her awesomeness Mokou, Suwako, her mindscrewing Koishi, Nue, and whatever other memorable extra bosses follow. Final extra boss is none other than the GIANT CATFISH. I'm kidding, he's the penultimate extra boss. Once again, final extra is ZUN when he's TRULY wasted, because not even Suika got as drunk as he is at that moment. And we all know in the Touhouverse, your power is based on either the size of your chest or how much you drink!

In other words, one giant kickass party to finish it all off.  :V

[Mima]

Mima kills everyone.

edit: including those already dead

[Letty Whiterock]

Mima kills everyone.

edit: including those already dead

This.

[Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie]

ZUN will sell Touhou.
And the person who buys it sells it to another person when the person quits.
And the person who buys it sells it to another person when the person quits.
And this keeps on going forever.

Touhou will never die. Until some other lolidanmakushooter will come and wipe touhou.

[Suikama]

Mima kills everyone.

edit: including those already dead

:V

[Slowpoke]

The series will probably end anticlimactically. Maybe a puzzle game.

[Doomsday]

as for predicting whats gonna happen in the last Touhou game, im not gonna think up any theories and im gonna let ZUN surprise me, whenever it comes

[Blackraptor]

The Final Boss of the Final Touhou game will be...Rumia!


Cirno will be EX-Boss...

[Tengukami]

Mr. ZUN over in Japan is gonna get liver failure, ragequit when he finds endings posted on Pooshlmer

HAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha Jesus Christ what? Oh yes, not only has ZUN heard of Pooshlmer, he would become so angry at endings posted there that he would stop making Touhou games, forever. It's just that important. What an impact it would have on his life. And I'm running out of sarcasm.

[Mounting Jaggis]

ZUN has already mentioned when Touhou will end