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Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #420 on:** December 07, 2016, 02:04:41 AM »

Assuming you go full trick room (TM available) on Magearna?? It's pretty close to Diancie.
It moves like the clockwork doll it is, it's either be adorable or nightmare fuel.

commandercool · « **Reply #421 on:** December 07, 2016, 05:43:14 AM »

FINALLY got my Regenerator Mareanie. Horrible nature, but two perfect IVs to get me started with breeding. I'll start breeding it tomorrow, so if anyone wants one please let me know.

Bio · « **Reply #422 on:** December 07, 2016, 01:10:32 PM »

Quote from: Think Komachi with a Rifle on December 07, 2016, 02:04:41 AM

Assuming you go full trick room (TM available) on Magearna??

It's got a lot of options. Agility (read: Shift Gear), AV, Specs. It's such a good Pokemon with a good special move pool, a pretty good ability, great stats and great typing.

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #423 on:** December 07, 2016, 02:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Bio on December 07, 2016, 01:10:32 PM

It's got a lot of options. Agility (read: Shift Gear), AV, Specs. It's such a good Pokemon with a good special move pool, a pretty good ability, great stats and great typing.

well managed to get a fairly slow one around it's base, damn you mythicals for always having 3 perfect IVs.
54 speed, the dream...
The single type weakness is very nice indeed, combined with decent bulk and the UB ability (more or less).
Making it always hit first in addition to ramping up on kills just seems so fun, not to mention that counters most UBs, who rely on being quick to make up for being glass cannons.

Edible · « **Reply #424 on:** December 07, 2016, 08:49:32 PM »

Hello catch rate 3 my old friend

I've come to fucking hate you again

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #425 on:** December 07, 2016, 09:32:41 PM »

Quote from: Edible on December 07, 2016, 08:49:32 PM

Hello catch rate 3 my old friend

I've come to fucking hate you again

Beldum?
They also know take down just to make it more painful.

commandercool · « **Reply #426 on:** December 07, 2016, 09:55:47 PM »

So ally chaining increases IVs, right? I need some good Dittos to breed with stuff. How high should I let the chain go before catching one?

Edible · « **Reply #427 on:** December 07, 2016, 10:07:58 PM »

Quote from: Think Komachi with a Rifle on December 07, 2016, 09:32:41 PM

Beldum?
They also know take down just to make it more painful.

Nah, I murdered every beldum I saw because fuck 'em.

I'm trying to catch the guardian deities and it's been a real slog.

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #428 on:** December 07, 2016, 10:11:45 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 07, 2016, 09:55:47 PM

So ally chaining increases IVs, right? I need some good Dittos to breed with stuff. How high should I let the chain go before catching one?

Maximised at four perfect IVs guaranteed around 20.

The ⑨th Zentillion · « **Reply #429 on:** December 07, 2016, 10:13:31 PM »

Quote from: Edible on December 07, 2016, 10:07:58 PM

Nah, I murdered every beldum I saw because fuck 'em.

I'm trying to catch the guardian deities and it's been a real slog.

Get a whole bunch of Dusk Balls, they're all indoor fights. That's how I got them anyway... well most of them. One I used a/the Level Ball for when i ran out.

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #430 on:** December 07, 2016, 10:32:09 PM »

Quote from: The ⑨th Zentillion on December 07, 2016, 10:13:31 PM

Get a whole bunch of Dusk Balls, they're all indoor fights. That's how I got them anyway... well most of them. One I used a/the Level Ball for when i ran out.

turn 1 quickball, looks to be what happened with my koko.
Fini is in a timer ball... *shudders*
Other two were false swipe+ status+ultra ball.

The worst part is having to reset after all that pain if you get a bad one.

Edit:
Just spotted another missed nice feature, all the in game trades feature 1 of each perfect IV, with a corresponding nature.
Also Vs recorder / battle video is a competitive godsend. No better way to check coverage needed vs the meta.

Anyone know how to best deal with porygon-z yet?
It (maybe eevee too?) makes Whirlwind (or something similar) or Haze mandatory on your starter mon, just by being on their team they force you to make a defensive pick.

Drake · « **Reply #431 on:** December 08, 2016, 09:29:22 AM »

Belly Drum Snorlax based god stormed me through E4+Champion. Probably the first time I've become Champion somewhat underleveled, despite this game possibly being the best I've played in terms of counters and decent AI. I love it, really appreciate the final battles.

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #432 on:** December 11, 2016, 09:25:59 PM »

So this happened

And then my daughter turned off my game when I wasn't paying attention. I hadn't saved.

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #433 on:** December 11, 2016, 09:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Moogs Parfait on December 11, 2016, 09:25:59 PM

So this happened

And then my daughter turned off my game when I wasn't paying attention. I hadn't saved.

If you need to farm bottle caps mine for shards, then trade in;
but yeah, ouch

I see why Celesteela is so rare on GTS now... you get two and actually want two due to wanting beast boost on different stats.

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #434 on:** December 12, 2016, 12:17:14 AM »

It seems mining rewards are determined when you start! (ofc to prevent save scumming)

commandercool · « **Reply #435 on:** December 12, 2016, 12:22:14 AM »

Oooh congrats then! That's gotta be a 1% drop rate, right?

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #436 on:** December 12, 2016, 01:37:02 AM »

I have no idea, Serebii doesn't even list it?

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #437 on:** December 12, 2016, 03:23:35 AM »

Quote from: Moogs Parfait on December 12, 2016, 01:37:02 AM

I have no idea, Serebii doesn't even list it?

We don't know specifics of current gen RNG right??
Would take a lot to get a decent sample for the mining, gives many things at once, so how it then interprets RNG might be complex and knowing f your guess is anywhere near right may take 10000s of data points.

commandercool · « **Reply #438 on:** December 12, 2016, 04:12:55 AM »

If anybody else, like me, is struggling with easy farming Battle Tree points to get breeding items because they can't breed yet, then maybe you, like me, also didn't know that Ultra Beasts are allowed in the Battle Tree. SubSalac Xurkitree seems like it should be a huge help in blasting through the lower levels for some quick points to buy Destiny Knot and evolution items.

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #439 on:** December 12, 2016, 03:22:19 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 12, 2016, 04:12:55 AM

If anybody else, like me, is struggling with easy farming Battle Tree points to get breeding items because they can't breed yet, then maybe you, like me, also didn't know that Ultra Beasts are allowed in the Battle Tree. SubSalac Xurkitree seems like it should be a huge help in blasting through the lower levels for some quick points to buy Destiny Knot and evolution items.

you get 50 BP per run on basic battle tower (20 battles), you then unlock real battle tower, for that ruleset.
Battle royal can net you 5 per battle.

UBs and Tapu are not legendary or mythic, no restrictions!!

top VGC teams have all included a Tapu (lele or koko, some bulu) and at least one UB; kartana (focus sash) or celesteela(leftovers/leach seed)
Other newer OU picks would be Ninetales (hidden ability, then aurora veil), Marowak (lightningrod, trick room use), Megalith(Sand stream), Peliper (drizzle, tailwind), Muk (knock off), Araquanid (there is a hidden secondary effect on its ability, bonus water damage)

Muk, kartana, incineroar, toxapex, and decidueye have the battle tree ribbon for me...
still own 0 destiny knots, have done pleanty of relatively successful breeding (am relying a bit on my bottle cap supply)

commandercool · « **Reply #440 on:** December 12, 2016, 04:09:30 PM »

I've mostly been focusing on filling out my Pokedex (which I'm making more complicated than it needs to be by collecting one of everything, even pre-evolved forms), but yeah, I've been watching a lot of OU. The big winner as far as I'm concerned has been Z-Parting Shot Persian.

Teewee · « **Reply #441 on:** December 12, 2016, 04:18:29 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 12, 2016, 04:12:55 AM

If anybody else, like me, is struggling with easy farming Battle Tree points to get breeding items because they can't breed yet, then maybe you, like me, also didn't know that Ultra Beasts are allowed in the Battle Tree. SubSalac Xurkitree seems like it should be a huge help in blasting through the lower levels for some quick points to buy Destiny Knot and evolution items.

I see. Now I got an excuse to stop putting off that whole sidestory.

I unlocked the IV judge just yesterday, and I was surprised to find this:

Gotta get those IV-passing items soon xD

Think Komachi with a Rifle · « **Reply #442 on:** December 12, 2016, 07:20:40 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 12, 2016, 04:09:30 PM

I've mostly been focusing on filling out my Pokedex (which I'm making more complicated than it needs to be by collecting one of everything, even pre-evolved forms), but yeah, I've been watching a lot of OU. The big winner as far as I'm concerned has been Z-Parting Shot Persian.

Parting shot is still disabled in game, so will have to wait for that, alongside memento.
Does sound fun, and utility is great, but Persian has a relatively weak typing (fairies will not fear it at all), and low overall stats (although abilities make up for this somewhat).

commandercool · « **Reply #443 on:** December 12, 2016, 07:41:19 PM »

Quote from: Think Komachi with a Rifle on December 12, 2016, 07:20:40 PM

Parting shot is still disabled in game, so will have to wait for that, alongside memento.
Does sound fun, and utility is great, but Persian has a relatively weak typing (fairies will not fear it at all), and low overall stats (although abilities make up for this somewhat).

Oh is Parting Shot bugged or something?

The thing about Persian is that its stats don't really matter. It's extremely fast, doesn't even need an attack stat because it deals damage with Foul Play and maybe Toxic, and is physically bulky despite bad defenses thanks to Fur Coat and the fact that you have no reason not to give it max HP.

So no, fairies don't fear it, but they do fear the fact that it can bring your Mega Scizor or whatever back up to full while giving it a virtually free switch in. And it shreds Alolan Marowaks like paper, which are everywhere. Might be a good partner for Xurkitree for that reason. Maybe the aforementioned Substitute Xurkitree.

ふねん1 · « **Reply #444 on:** December 12, 2016, 10:09:48 PM »

I've actually been paying more attention to Ubers lately than OU. Helps that it's largely the same as in ORAS, so it's much more stable, though there have still been some notable tweaks to mix things up. Heart Swap Magearna just trolls Xerneas so hard. :V

commandercool · « **Reply #445 on:** December 13, 2016, 03:57:11 AM »

Can anyone confirm that Alomomola is actually in the Brooklet Hill totem den? Serebii and Bulbapedia both claim that it's a 20% drop in the bubbling fishing spot but I just finished 20 fishes there and didn't see a single one. Is it maybe day only and nobody's reporting that or something?

ふねん1 · « **Reply #446 on:** December 13, 2016, 04:26:45 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 13, 2016, 03:57:11 AM

Can anyone confirm that Alomomola is actually in the Brooklet Hill totem den? Serebii and Bulbapedia both claim that it's a 20% drop in the bubbling fishing spot but I just finished 20 fishes there and didn't see a single one. Is it maybe day only and nobody's reporting that or something?

Fishing shouldn't have a distinction between day or night. Is there something else you might be missing? No Alomomola in 20 tries seems a little iffy to be just bad luck, but then again, this is Pokemon we're talking about.

commandercool · « **Reply #447 on:** December 13, 2016, 04:40:18 AM »

I mean, it's possible I'm not in the right spot, but I'm pretty sure I am. As far as I know there's only one bubbling spot in the Brooklet Hill totem den. And I'm resetting it between each attempt. I'm seeing the other stuff on the spawn table (Magikarp, Wishiwashi, items). This is the most trouble I've had finding anything except maybe Pichu so far and it's on a fucking 20% spawn rate Pokemon, so it's definitely striking me as odd.

Edit: Found one after 34 runs. :V

Janitor Morgan · « **Reply #448 on:** December 13, 2016, 08:13:07 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on December 12, 2016, 07:41:19 PM

Oh is Parting Shot bugged or something?

Shouldn't be as far as I know, Pancham/Pangoro can learn it and are in the same egg group as Persian is (and Persian also can't learn Memento at all so I'm not sure why that was brought up).

Fulisha of Light · « **Reply #449 on:** December 13, 2016, 08:58:12 AM »

So I caught all the UBs in Sun, and started looking for Necrozma. Wasn't sure if it was a random encounter in the grass or whatever, so after searching around I decided to make an attempt at SOS chaining Rockruff.

Apparently SOS chaining only goes up to 255 encounters according to some sources, and past that it resets the IVs, shininess, etc. I unfortunately don't keep very good count of the chain number though...

But I do seem to have pretty good luck when I'm very laid back while doing this :V

I named her Pupper. I have no idea which Lycanroc forme I should evolve it to. If I were to trade/Bank Rockruff to my Moon version, will it evolve into Midnight or will it stick with Midday since it was caught in Sun?