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| commandercool:
It's really good. My criticisms are minimal. Turns out this plot can be really effective when we, you know, give a shit about the characters. I can't help but feel like there was a superfluous plotline in there somewhere, but I couldn't really point to what it is. Here's my challenge that has yet to be solved: Can anyone think of a single thing, no matter how small, that Superman Vs. Batman did better than Civil War? There have to be things, but I can't think of any and neither could anyone else I've talked to so far. |
| Monarda:
It sucked more than Civil War, wouldn't that count ? But sincerely, i have no idea, from what i could see and hear, DC movies always slipped up (although i do like the animations.). |
| commandercool:
I think the exception that proves that rule is Batman Begins, which to date is still probably my favorite single comic book movie, but mostly yeah. Marvel Studios is better at making movies than Warner Brothers is, and they're better at making Marvel stories than Marvel is. Remember Civil War in comics? The Civil War comic was pretty poor. An adaptation this successful of such weak material is a real kick in the pants to the Marvel comics staff. |
| Mеа:
--- Quote from: commandercool on May 06, 2016, 03:35:41 PM ---The Civil War comic was pretty poor. An adaptation this successful of such weak material is a real kick in the pants to the Marvel comics staff. --- End quote --- Was it? Maybe its my bias since it was the first comic I've read, out of the very few, that a friend suggested and let me borrow, but I liked it. I do remember him saying that people thought it was rather weak, what's your reasoning? If it's that much better than I might take up the invite to go see it tomorrow. |
| commandercool:
I've actually talked to quite a few people who got into comics through Civil War and like it just fine, but it is widely disliked, or at least not loved, by comics people. I don't find it to be a very complete story since it existed primarily as an editorial springboard, and most of the stuff it springboarded into just kind of fizzled out after a while and left no lasting impact on Marvel. It's very little actual content for a ton of bluster, and it was part of the noxious crossover fad that made me stop buying comics for the most part. If you were reading Marvel at the time every single book you read got put on hold for an editorially mandated Civil War crossover book, forcing writers to cut short or alter ongoing arcs to accomodate. And none of those crossovers meant anything unless you so read half a dozen other tie-in books. That in and of itself was bad, but Civil War was such a relative financial success that Marvel started doing that absolutely all of the time until half of the books in every ongoing series became event tie-ins. So maybe some of the ill will I have toward Civil War is reay thanks to that industry trend more than the book itself, but either way it taught Marvel the lesson that mediocrity sold way better than quality storytelling if they yelled loud enough about it and did enough heavily-publicized stunt deaths. |
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