Author Topic: RNG And Dragons Thread XXIX: NA is actually good now?!?!?!?! (Read 113498 times)

Monarda · « **Reply #360 on:** April 16, 2016, 08:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Hikari on April 16, 2016, 07:56:47 PM

It's the weekend again, so I'm going at the Legend tier Weekend Dungeon, but I can't seem to replicate that near-success run from last weekend. I've evolved I&I, gotten Australis (lead) to Awakening 4, and died on the first floor. This is my Tricolor team:

Quite frankly, it's bad, but while it was weaker it got me almost through the whole thing.

Who will you use as a Helper ? Australis runs on Rows, maybe you should take another Australis ? I dunno, your team is pretty irregular, it`s hard to find something effective.

Hikarin · « **Reply #361 on:** April 16, 2016, 08:47:32 PM »

I took Echidna, I think. The New Years Echidna. I think.
It enhanced Healer HP by 2.5x and ATK by 1.5(ish)x, which seemed good because those are both lacking.

EDIT: It was Christmas Echidna.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #362 on:** April 16, 2016, 08:51:11 PM »

The problem is that pretty much none of your monsters are affected by the leader skill. Unless I'm reading Australis' leader skill wrongly, it only affects machine types, which is to say, only herself. Meanwhile taking christmas echidna only affects herself and I&I.

Out of curiosity, what was your starter dragon? You can probably make a much more solid team out of them and just about any RGB cards.

Monarda · « **Reply #363 on:** April 16, 2016, 08:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Sacchimon on April 16, 2016, 08:51:11 PM

Unless I'm reading Australis' leader skill wrongly, it only affects machine types, which is to say, only herself.

Hold on, i thought Australis was a guy, is this another Tsukuyomi case ?

Espadas · « **Reply #364 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:04:19 PM »

Yoloroll for day 1: my second Liu Bei

Uhhhh, technically i could use him, since my Verdandi team is one of the very few that survived The Purge.
But i use her only for some farming, and for that my current team is more than ok..... and i could use that wood exp + tamadras for dark monsters!
And his AS is basically useless as inheritance for dark teams......

i'll sleep over it but 90% he will become MP

EDIT: lol, despite maining dark i actually have a good use for Shynpy: keep Fagan unevoed, maxskill him with shynpy, then evolve into DFagan :V

Hikarin · « **Reply #365 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:06:50 PM »

Quote from: Sacchimon on April 16, 2016, 08:51:11 PM

Out of curiosity, what was your starter dragon? You can probably make a much more solid team out of them and just about any RGB cards.

I started with Plessie, but now I have a Firedragon Tyrannos, too.
Neither are Uevo'd

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #366 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:17:29 PM »

Quote from: Espadas on April 16, 2016, 09:04:19 PM

Yoloroll for day 1: my second Liu Bei

Uhhhh, technically i could use him, since my Verdandi team is one of the very few that survived The Purge.
But i use her only for some farming, and for that my current team is more than ok..... and i could use that wood exp + tamadras for dark monsters!
And his AS is basically useless as inheritance for dark teams......

i'll sleep over it but 90% he will become MP

EDIT: lol, despite maining dark i actually have a good use for Shynpy: keep Fagan unevoed, maxskill him with shynpy, then evolve into DFagan :V

It still amazes me that you can go all in dark. Even I made some questionable decisions like selling Bonia and Ra but I still have some diversity.

Hikarin · « **Reply #367 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:47:22 PM »

Oh, actually, instead of running a starter dragon as a lead, should I lead with Leilan? That gives me 3.5x ATK to two types instead of 2x to just one.

Not to mention that I think it applies to all types, it just occurs when any of the three listed types are erased.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #368 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Starlighthawk on April 16, 2016, 08:58:53 PM

Hold on, i thought Australis was a guy, is this another Tsukuyomi case ?

Honestly I have absolutely no freaking idea, Australis could be male for all I know, after Noah and Starling I have absolutely no fucking idea.

Next up GungHo will come out and say that the Numbered Dragons are all actually female.

Quote from: Hikari on April 16, 2016, 09:06:50 PM

I started with Plessie, but now I have a Firedragon Tyrannos, too.
Neither are Uevo'd

The evo requirement for Tyrannos' first uvo isn't that bad. You can make a relatively solid team out of farmables - since you already have Laila, you can pick up a Rowdy Red Samurai Goblin (or gigas if you're lucky) and probably have more than enough firepower already to deal with the weekend dungeon. If you have any other red cards you can put them in too.

Basically, just make a monocolor team with a simple leader and go to town, you should be fine so long as said color is RGB.

@EDIT

Quote from: Hikari on April 16, 2016, 09:47:22 PM

Oh, actually, instead of running a starter dragon as a lead, should I lead with Leilan? That gives me 3.5x ATK to two types instead of 2x to just one.

That depends - R/G or Awoken Leilan? Cause if not you won't be able to activate since Leilan needs Light orbs to activate as well.

(Also, I'm pretty sure the Chinese Girls affect all attributes.)

Hikarin · « **Reply #369 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:52:06 PM »

I have R/G, but it specifically says,

"3.5x ATK when erasing any of the following Orb types: Fire, Wood, Light, or Heal"

I just tested it in EC and it was working, so long as Leilan was attacking, too.

Jq1790 · « **Reply #370 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:54:14 PM »

Yeah, R/G Leilan can play Tricolor dungeons because of hearts, same with Awoken. That is part of what makes those two forms so good, same with the other non-Sakuya Chinese girls. Just need fire and wood along with hearts, which R/G fills on her own.

commandercool · « **Reply #371 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:55:20 PM »

Quote from: Hikari on April 16, 2016, 09:52:06 PM

I have R/G, but it specifically says,

"3.5x ATK when erasing any of the following Orb types: Fire, Wood, Light, or Heal"

I just tested it in EC and it was working, so long as Leilan was attacking, too.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that.

"ATK x3.5 when attacking with 3 of following orb types: Fire, Wood, Light & Heart."

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #372 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:56:01 PM »

Right, sort of. R/G Leilan and Awoken Leilan (Alongside the Awoken and non-twinlit uvos of the other chinese girls not called Sakuya) can activate by matching three of the colors listed. If you had the twinlit uvo or the non-uvo forms of Leilan then you would be forced to match Red, Green and Light to activate. Since you do have R/G though, you can match Red, Green and Hearts and get the same result.

Hikarin · « **Reply #373 on:** April 16, 2016, 09:56:23 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on April 16, 2016, 09:55:20 PM

I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that.

"ATK x3.5 when attacking with 3 of following orb types: Fire, Wood, Light & Heart."

That would be R/L or unevolved Leilan.

EDIT: Oh, I see.

DOUBLEdit: Welp, on Novice I tested the team, with Chirei's ALeilan as a Helper, and it's scary. Every single floor is insta-bombed by the 12.25x.

TRIPLEdit: I intentionally didn't activate the LS just now, but the Skyfall potential took over. I guess I'm moving this to the max difficulty version.

QUADRUPLEdit: Welp, the Dungeon got destroyed, so thanks for the help!

Jq1790 · « **Reply #374 on:** April 16, 2016, 10:20:02 PM »

Yeah, due to how few orb types there are in tricolors it's easy to go from "barely doing much" to "sky falls, everyone dies" in like five seconds. Note that you will also take 30% less damage from two thirds of the enemies which will probably prove preeeetty handy.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #375 on:** April 16, 2016, 10:34:17 PM »

Quote from: Hikari on April 16, 2016, 09:56:23 PM

That would be R/L or unevolved Leilan.

EDIT: Oh, I see.

DOUBLEdit: Welp, on Novice I tested the team, with Chirei's ALeilan as a Helper, and it's scary. Every single floor is insta-bombed by the 12.25x.

TRIPLEdit: I intentionally didn't activate the LS just now, but the Skyfall potential took over. I guess I'm moving this to the max difficulty version.

QUADRUPLEdit: Welp, the Dungeon got destroyed, so thanks for the help!

She is fairly strong and easy to activate, so a really really good way to play the game with. You can really change the strats up a lot with her, and she doesn't ask for too much.

commandercool · « **Reply #376 on:** April 16, 2016, 10:40:17 PM »

I've said before that I think the Chinese are the best starter monsters. Really wish Gungho would just do away with the starter dragons and let you pick a chibi Chinese as a starter (and make the chibi Chinese evolve into a real Chinese). They're great at teaching important skills and they're useful at every stage of the game. But they're at a premium so I doubt Gungho would ever agree to give them away to everyone for free. For anyone lucky enough to pull one early though, I think they're a great option.

commandercool · « **Reply #377 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:20:24 PM »

Meimei invaded Zaerogoo's dungeon. Note the floor she's on.

Uh, Meims, are you allowed to be here?

I got to Rogoo and he was like "Let's continue". Poor guy got preempted by a drunk Chinese girl wandering into his house and he doesn't even seem to know it.

Moogs Parfait · « **Reply #378 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:30:11 PM »

I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted

Monarda · « **Reply #379 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:35:32 PM »

Quote from: Moogs Parfait on April 16, 2016, 11:30:11 PM

I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted

WAIFUTERASU ! Noooooo, give her to me, you already have one........ wahhh....... :qq:

GungTroll...... please give....
Edit; Oh, he also got PAD Reimu. :V

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #380 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:50:46 PM »

Kirin invaded on floor nine of Nordis for me. I was all EXCUUUUSE ME?

I just used Orochi and killed her with non-jammer rainbow damage

yo Moogs
Fenrir bros?

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #381 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:51:41 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on April 16, 2016, 11:20:24 PM

Meimei invaded Zaerogoo's dungeon. Note the floor she's on.

Uh, Meims, are you allowed to be here?

Maleficent Phantom Freeloader Queen, Meimei∞

Preemptive: Would you like some? (Bind Awoken Skills 99 turn)
Preemptive: Oh, try this too. (Bind Skills 99 turn)
Preemptive: How about a little more? (Bind x 6 Cards 99 turn)

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Skills

The truth of the tortoise and the snake ( 1908XXX ) (+Blind)
100% chance. ( 25 hits )

commandercool · « **Reply #382 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:52:17 PM »

Quote from: Moogs Parfait on April 16, 2016, 11:30:11 PM

I got a lot of cool stuff but no Apollo like I wanted

Ooh, nice Reine. Any day you pull a Valkyrie is a good day.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #383 on:** April 17, 2016, 12:34:15 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on April 16, 2016, 10:40:17 PM

I've said before that I think the Chinese are the best starter monsters. Really wish Gungho would just do away with the starter dragons and let you pick a chibi Chinese as a starter (and make the chibi Chinese evolve into a real Chinese). They're great at teaching important skills and they're useful at every stage of the game. But they're at a premium so I doubt Gungho would ever agree to give them away to everyone for free. For anyone lucky enough to pull one early though, I think they're a great option.

Although I disagree with letting the chibi chinese evolve into the actual Chinese, I pretty much agree with the rest - and really, who the hell even cares about the chibi chinese anyway? They are REM silvers dedicated to just padding out the gacha system so that players whale for the actually good stuff. Make them starters and nobody would really complain.

Heck maybe it would even make GungHo buff the starter dragons and finally give Pterados and D'Spinas their second uvo.

Mеа · « **Reply #384 on:** April 17, 2016, 12:40:47 AM »

The only problem with that is then they really would have to change the name of the game to PaW

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #385 on:** April 17, 2016, 12:53:39 AM »

Quote from: Mеа on April 17, 2016, 12:40:47 AM

The only problem with that is then they really would have to change the name of the game to PaW

NEW UPDATE: Release of Leilan Dragon, Meimei Dragon, Karin Dragon, Sakuya Dragon and Haku Dragon.

Monarda · « **Reply #386 on:** April 17, 2016, 12:57:21 AM »

Hmm, how would Sakuya Dragon work if A. Sakuya can already reach 100x ?

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #387 on:** April 17, 2016, 01:01:58 AM »

Awoken Ra goes x100 but that didn't stop Ra-dora from going x144.

Mr. Sacchi · « **Reply #388 on:** April 17, 2016, 01:37:06 AM »

Quote from: Starlighthawk on April 17, 2016, 12:57:21 AM

Hmm, how would Sakuya Dragon work if A. Sakuya can already reach 100x ?

Well the idea would be to create these new dragons as the new starters so that GungHo would be able to justify keeping the name of the game without really changing anything about it :V

Although the actual Sakuya Dragon, as an MP Dragon, would probably be like "All att HP/ATK/RCV x1.5, ATK x7 when matching four of the following orb types: Fire, Water, Wood, Light, Heart, Jammer, Poison & Mortal Poison. All Att. ATK x1.5 at 5 combos, up to x4 at 10 combos."

I do realize that adds up to x42 ATK, or x1764 with double leads. That's intentional.

OverlordChirei · « **Reply #389 on:** April 17, 2016, 01:56:11 AM »

Sakuya Dragon

Active Skill: Fanboy Final Flash CD 20/Max 15
Deal Fanboy x1000 Light Damage to all enemies. Affected by element and defense.

Leader Skill: Everyone's Favorite
All attributes' ATK increases by +0.1x for every fanboy she has. All attributes' HP increases by +0.01x for every fangirl she has.