RNG And Dragons Thread XXIX: NA is actually good now?!?!?!?!

[Mеа]

It's not that every descend likes to have dark absorb specifically, but High Water Ninja is promiscuous as hell.

Fuck that lady.

Her too, but Venus in Hera Sowilo descended, 10 freaking turns.

Because otherwise it would just be hands-down the best color. You want to play the arbitrarily stronger color, you deal with the minor inconveniences. And remember that the other colors have to deal with shit like Kraken AND being resisted.

o yeah, right. I forgot. First world problems. It's spoiling me so bad I died with ASaku yesterday because I forgot how to actually try.

[Monarda]

Hey now, let's not get crazy. I mean

Ra Dragon.

White's no shining pinnacle of game balance.

I said MOST ! Balance is something that`s pretty hard to get right for everything.

[OverlordChirei]

Hey now, let's not get crazy. I mean

Ra Dragon.

White's no shining pinnacle of game balance.

The irony is that it needs 2 dkali

[commandercool]

I said MOST ! Balance is something that`s pretty hard to get right for everything.

Ra Dragon is not an accident. It wasn't a misestimation or an overlooked obscure interaction, it was Gungho sitting down and saying "Let's figure out how to make the best thing in the game, but make sure it's only usable by rich people".

Although to be slightly fair all of the gratuitous Kali knockoffs are making it a little more likely to be usable by non-whales.

The irony is that it needs 2 dkali

Lol yeah.

Also, TWO? I thought they needed five now so you could skill inherit onto RaDra and every sub?

[Chaore]

excuse you the strongest card in the game is carbuncle, watch yourself

Light as a whole really isn't a disenfranchised color though, it's just... kinda AVERAGE in the end. It's dark but not ridiculously broken, so no one really notices how solid it is.

[commandercool]

Yeah I'm certainly not trying to make the point that white is the best or anything. The way I see it the color hierarchy looks something like this:

Black---------------->White-------------------------------->Green----->Red and blue

[Chaore]

Yeah I'm certainly not trying to make the point that white is the best or anything. The way I see it the color hierarchy looks something like this:

Black---------------->White-------------------------------->Green----->Red and blue

I'd put green more equal to blue at best. Blue as an overall is a stupidly strong color, it's just kinda SMALL as to what you actually see.

Green was never really king shit of tri-color, honestly. It just has the most 'popular' leads, and very briefly had catte.


Red is a garbage color for losers though. We can't have a top-tier that doesn't need like 5 duplicate cards ever.

[trancehime]

Farmable SUPER GIRL SKILLUPS?

nice la

[Chaore]

Farmable SUPER GIRL SKILLUPS?

nice la

still don't regret pying supes prime

[The Greatest Dog]

Wait, Jormungandr is a regular descend guy instead of a Level Up descend?

This makes him so much easier than Gainaut. I'll take two, please.

[commandercool]

I'd put green more equal to blue at best. Blue as an overall is a stupidly strong color, it's just kinda SMALL as to what you actually see.

Green was never really king shit of tri-color, honestly. It just has the most 'popular' leads, and very briefly had catte.


Red is a garbage color for losers though. We can't have a top-tier that doesn't need like 5 duplicate cards ever.

Yeah good luck getting me to look past "blue cards are just rarer for no reason lololol" when evaluating the colors. I know it doesn't make sense to count that when I didn't count the difficulty of getting RaDra's team, but that's what you get.

I think green's solid spread of support effects is worth a lot. They really hit all the nails on the head and I fucking wish red and blue had that kind of versatility.

Edit: So how does new DC Collab work? Are there just two Lex Luthors and two Doomsdays, or do the new craptastic ones replace the old ones?

Edit edit: What about Raoh? Does he stack one particular sub? Did we decide he sucks after all? I know a collab gold is kind of a bullshit answer to red not having a great lead, but everyone seemed pretty excited about him when he came out and he still looks pretty crazy to me.

[Chaore]

Edit edit: What about Raoh? Does he stack one particular sub? Did we decide he sucks after all? I know a collab gold is kind of a bullshit answer to red not having a great lead, but everyone seemed pretty excited about him when he came out and he still looks pretty crazy to me.

He doesn't, but I don't think he really reached more than 'literally, literally all red has at this point.'

He's good and has a solidish pool though, yes.

Yeah good luck getting me to look past "blue cards are just rarer for no reason lololol" when evaluating the colors. I know it doesn't make sense to count that when I didn't count the difficulty of getting RaDra's team, but that's what you get.

I mean Ra Dra is literally a singular card. Blue is just having it's few key cards, which are specific, but pretty achievable really.

It's kinda 'Have andro or fucking bust', but even then honestly I'm really not convinced even what i've said is accurate of reality.

I'm pretty sure there are far more options these days, Blue just continously has this stigma from days of old (like, 90% of iffy factual statements in PAD) that has never washed away

[Monarda]

Could you add me to the list ? My Main Leaders are A. Drake and Skuld from more recently, i can also run Thor (Evo`d, not awoken one), Wukong and LKali.
ID:383,095,393

Also, Aoshi, would you mind if i add you ? I`d like to use your SchoolThena for my Wood Team.  :ohdear:

[Hikarin]

There, legit stuff:
For anybody not watching

5 Piis and 7 stones. And 7k PAL Points. 1 TAMA. Queen Gold Dungeon.

woot.

[Monarda]

I don`t care about Piis, 6 stones + the dungeon rewards are much better for me. :V

[commandercool]

Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.

[hyorinryu]

Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.

Depends on player imo.  I don't think they're worth as much as they used to be, what with everything getting skill ups and the skill up rates getting increased. I'd say 1-2 stones at most imo.

Also, why did they buff Angry bird pig while leaving My Melody out in the cold?

[Mr. Sacchi]

Do we have modern math on how many stones a pii is worth? If I recall people used to say they were worth 5-6 stones each or something, but now I'm not sure I would trade more than one or two stones for one, and even then that's only if it's a color I particularly want. They're common as shit now and I love them for it.

If I'm not mistaken a pii droprate is about 1.5% in the Alt. Dungeons, Unless I'm wrong that's about 1 pii every 67 runs and alt dungeons cost around 20 stamina so that's about 1340 stamina per pii. Assuming you start with a full stamina bar, that's about 7-8 stones assuming you're at around rank 300 and has around 165 stamina.

Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.

[commandercool]

If I'm not mistaken a pii droprate is about 1.5% in the Alt. Dungeons, Unless I'm wrong that's about 1 pii every 67 runs and alt dungeons cost around 20 stamina so that's about 1340 stamina per pii. Assuming you start with a full stamina bar, that's about 7-8 stones assuming you're at around rank 300 and has around 165 stamina.

Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.

Just keep in mind that if you're running alts that much at rank 300 you're going to rank up a shitload. They have great experience/stamina rates.

[Hikarin]

Thankfully, Piis are given out like candy nowadays so they're barely worth anything anymore.

After this, totally. Still updating my post as rewards come by, but at this rate, it's raining Piis like JP. (10 gift dungeons [i think?], 5 piis, 5 tamas)

[trancehime]

GungHo Intern strikes back by winning the challenges and getting extra NA prizes

Intern status = NOT FIRED

[Hikarin]

Well, I got reminded about how little damage I do :V

[Mr. Sacchi]

Just keep in mind that if you're running alts that much at rank 300 you're going to rank up a shitload. They have great experience/stamina rates.

Yep, which should knock off 1-2 stones off the calculation. So your estimate of 5-6 stones is correct.

It's still not really worth that much though, cause they're given so handily nowadays.

It's kind of amazing when the preferred method of getting something is to just have it given to us by the devs. Kinda says something about the RNG in this game.

[OverlordChirei]

The actual prize list:

7000 Pal Points (via mail)
1 TAMADRA (via mail)
3 Super King Gold Dragon Gift Dungeons
5 Random Py Dungeons
2 Magic Stones (via mail)

If the eight gift dungeons are all cleared, this is a total of 10 Stones.

[The Greatest Dog]

random Pys you say?

I can GO ALL BADPY?

omg this is a dream

[MatsuriSakuragi]

Ichigo and Eschamali shall eat well.

[Aoshi-shi]

Also, Aoshi, would you mind if i add you ? I`d like to use your SchoolThena for my Wood Team.  :ohdear:

Just sent you an invite!

[The Greatest Dog]

First test indicates Fenrir hits REALLY HARD even pre-buffs

Of course the team comp will change once he becomes a weird jammer rainbow lead?

going for x100 right now is really impractical and I'll wait for Rainbow buff before I try anything serious with him, but it's still crazy fun playing with jammers for once.

[Jq1790]

Oh hey speaking of beating up Zeus, time for Zeus Challenge again Monday-Sunday of this week.  Standard fare, each guards a jewel, Stratios also has 2 max level globes, yadda yadda. (and of course a stone for the sweep)

[Monarda]

AHHHHHHHH FUCK NEPTUNE !! WHY PUT L/D Resist if the Defense is already bullshit high ?!?!? Rip Stone and Tamadra.