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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #300 on: March 08, 2016, 12:06:35 AM »
@Starlight
What are you using now? Hades gives you like 5 whole turns to kill him, shouldn't be a problem with your light team.

It's not that, i just got some bad skyfall stuff, with regular skyfall he would have went down on the third turn.

I'm currently using an A. Drake lead for the HP and Atk. boost, having U. Rider Liene, Kaguya-Hime (New Year REM one), Wukong Evo'd and a L/G Dragon Fruit due to cost restrictions as subs, and i used a Shinra Saiga Helper as a safe-ish strat, since it was the closest i had for a anti-heavy defense monster such as Neptune.
Crappy huh ?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #301 on: March 08, 2016, 12:09:08 AM »
Commander, I did some searching, found this:

>I pretty much have it down to a 100% clear rate at this point with Gabriel/Reine/Snow White/Alrescha/Sun Quan/Ryune.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 12:17:41 AM by Jq1790 »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #302 on: March 08, 2016, 12:22:14 AM »
Oh shit that makes a lot of sense actually. Alrescha does a lot of work in this dungeon and I forgot about her. I've even hypermaxed her since then. Well, I'm in with a different team right now but I'll bring that if I lose this time.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #303 on: March 08, 2016, 12:24:47 AM »
I also found this in your post history if it helps out any

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #304 on: March 08, 2016, 12:29:39 AM »
It's not that, i just got some bad skyfall stuff, with regular skyfall he would have went down on the third turn.

I'm currently using an A. Drake lead for the HP and Atk. boost, having U. Rider Liene, Kaguya-Hime (New Year REM one), Wukong Evo'd and a L/G Dragon Fruit due to cost restrictions as subs, and i used a Shinra Saiga Helper as a safe-ish strat, since it was the closest i had for a anti-heavy defense monster such as Neptune.
Crappy huh ?

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You should look for Awoken Freyjas. I think Matsy has one.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #305 on: March 08, 2016, 12:30:59 AM »
"Ok time to face Zaerogoo again, this time should be easier with my newly 297.... let see which team is best..."

> full Dark Absorb floor
> -50% Dark Damage on Zaerogoo
".....come here Sakuya......"  :matsuriscowl:

Gungho, care to explain the reasoning behind stacking a dungeon against the very color that would be interested in the boss drop? -__-

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #306 on: March 08, 2016, 01:00:49 AM »
because Zaerogoo is the maleficent phantom King of darkness

That's like trying to poison Neptune in Zeus Mercury and Z&H
It'll work eventually
But it won't work well

But somehow LZL and Ammy best him easily.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #307 on: March 08, 2016, 01:45:48 AM »


It is going to be so fucking sad that Tokaigi Cup (Isis fixed team) is going to be the only ranked dungeon I didn't get sub-10% in

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #308 on: March 08, 2016, 01:51:38 AM »
because Zaerogoo is the maleficent phantom King of darkness

That's like trying to poison Neptune in Zeus Mercury and Z&H
It'll work eventually
But it won't work well

But somehow LZL and Ammy best him easily.

Doesn't Neptune have a status sheild in Mercury?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #309 on: March 08, 2016, 02:22:20 AM »
Doesn't Neptune have a status sheild in Mercury?

I thought it was only for 10 turns, my bad.
Still. Bring your own Neptune to that fight and watch him fail almost half of his attacks.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #310 on: March 08, 2016, 02:27:44 AM »
I thought it was only for 10 turns, my bad.
Still. Bring your own Neptune to that fight and watch him fail almost half of his attacks.

I used Neptune Dragon and one-shot him. That works too right? :V

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #311 on: March 08, 2016, 02:53:57 AM »
okay serious question time
Are Gabriel/Alrescha/Alrescha/Andromeda good as subs for Neptunedora? Because if it's legit enough...

Well. I have Orochi, Isis, I&I and Sachi Bros if double Alrescha is not preferable.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #312 on: March 08, 2016, 02:59:06 AM »
I spend the whole dungeon dreading part 1 of Z8 and....



Apparently, chinagirl invades can happen on that floor, too.

I then proceed to melt him away on my first shot, with his 75% shield up.



A. Astaroth is so good.

That's a grand total of 39,124,096 damage dealt. Taking his shield into account, it's 9,781,024 damage inflicted.

He has 6,257,431 HP.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 03:03:36 AM by Matsuri »

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #313 on: March 08, 2016, 03:08:51 AM »
I will need to do this with Karin eventually out of principle, but for now, I'll take my first Special dungeon clear with pride!



I wanted Nordis anyway so this works out pretty well for me.

Subsequently I got money and A. Sakuya is finally maxskilled which will be nice too.

Not a murderous overkill victory like soooome peoples' Special clears, but the only thing that counts is the victory at the end!
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #314 on: March 08, 2016, 04:59:01 AM »
okay serious question time
Are Gabriel/Alrescha/Alrescha/Andromeda good as subs for Neptunedora? Because if it's legit enough...

Well. I have Orochi, Isis, I&I and Sachi Bros if double Alrescha is not preferable.

My NepDra team is not great, but here's what I use:

NepDra/Reine/Gabriel/Snow White/Alrescha/NepDra (although recently I've been pairing him with Ryune a lot with some success)

As I've said before, I think my team has two major weaknesses: Low HP and few skillboosts. The team you're proposing has slightly better HP, which is good, but even fewer skillboosts, which I would say is bad. I'm definitely a fan of Alrescha on Neptune Dragon, her HP isn't horrible, she makes him lockproof, and extra haste is great, but I wouldn't use two because it slows down an already-slow team even more. Once you do get your skills up you'll basically be set for a while because of all the haste, but you don't have any fast skills which is very bad.

Here's my ill-informed take on all of the subs you mentioned:

Gabriel: Very solid, especially if you have a lot of physicals already and need RCV. Even better if you have a heartbreaker. Bad HP is super sketchy though.
Alrescha: One is great, especially if she puts you exactly at five lock resists. Two is probably overkill outside of certain dungeons.
Andromeda: Great. No real downsides that I can see.
Orochi: HP and skillboosts are both great, lack of God typing is unfortunate and I'm hesitant to have any more non-orbchange actives. Probably becomes an amazing choice whenever you pair NepDra with an orbchanging friend lead, although odds are that will hurt your RCV even more. In my case I still have more than enough, but my team is heaven on healers.
Isis: I wouldn't use her over Snow White, but she does have better awakenings and stats so there's certainly a reason to. Definitely better than Snow White if you don't pack a heartbreaker, but you should probably have a heartbreaker. Her shield could be relevant depending on your team's final HP, but it's too small for my team to care about.
I&I: HP good, active semi-pointless. More haste is great, and in theory it lets you burst while conserving orbs, but it still seems like overkill to me.
Sachi Bros: Doesn't seem especially great at anything NepDra wants to have, but could be good if you have a green->blue orbchanger.

To be honest Neptune Dragon seems like he needs a heavy whale box to really work. He has too many flaws that can only be easily solved by stacking REM chases. Or maybe I should be pairing him with something and I'm just playing him bad. But as it stands I can't reaaally recommend him. Too flawed and needy.

Edit:

Commander, I did some searching, found this:

>I pretty much have it down to a 100% clear rate at this point with Gabriel/Reine/Snow White/Alrescha/Sun Quan/Ryune.
I also found this in your post history if it helps out any

Thank you very much, that helped a ton. Who knows how long it would have taken me to figure that out again. I died a number of times earlier, but the first time I busted out Alrescha it was a breeze to clear.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 05:56:07 AM by commandercool »
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #315 on: March 08, 2016, 05:41:01 AM »
To be honest Neptune Dragon seems like he needs a heavy whale box to really work. He has too many flaws that can only be easily solved by stacking REM chases. Or maybe I should be pairing him with something and I'm just playing him bad. But as it stands I can't reaaally recommend him. Too flawed and needy.

Probably. Most of the non-GFE subs I commonly see on Neptune Dragon are Awoken Karin, Hermes (any form of Hermes), Andromeda... and that's it, sometimes Awoken I&I makes a guest appearance as does Hatsume, but yeah.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #316 on: March 08, 2016, 10:19:11 AM »
I spend the whole dungeon dreading part 1 of Z8 and....



Apparently, chinagirl invades can happen on that floor, too.

I then proceed to melt him away on my first shot, with his 75% shield up.



A. Astaroth is so good.

I don't know what impress me more: the fact that the invade was so awesomely timed, or the sheer balance in damage output of your team members.....


EDIT: Ok what gives? Everytime i read a post here about chinese invades i turn back to my phone and there she is!  :wat:
Oh and this is my SIXTH invade in the Challenge Descended..... pretty good rate! (Sakuya, why do you still hide from meeeeee? *creepy deep voice*)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 10:22:24 AM by Espadas »

Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #317 on: March 09, 2016, 02:56:44 AM »
>guan yinping boosts physicals

Oh boy



Get dunked tengu

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #318 on: March 09, 2016, 04:55:10 AM »
That is a lot of HP for 12costs.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #319 on: March 09, 2016, 05:26:08 AM »
I keep my hypermaxed yinping up for anyone else who wants to try lol

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #320 on: March 09, 2016, 05:57:49 AM »
I might try when I'm done with the rest of it. I've got a hundred or so spare +eggs that I could do something similar with. Not sure if I have the subs, but I don't know how much it matters. I'm working on my Pandora team as well as the challenge, so all of my stamina is already going to use, but I'll take you up on that if I get the chance.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #321 on: March 09, 2016, 11:27:36 AM »
HEY GUYS I HEARD YOU MISSED JUGGLER SO HERES AN ULT BECAUSE YOU ALL LOVED HIM SO MUCH

ALSO NA GETS ARENA 2 NOW KTHXBAI

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #322 on: March 09, 2016, 11:48:16 AM »
HEY GUYS I HEARD YOU MISSED JUGGLER SO HERES AN ULT BECAUSE YOU ALL LOVED HIM SO MUCH

ALSO NA GETS ARENA 2 NOW KTHXBAI

meh, who cares about juggler ult

berserker ult is poverty rodin!

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #323 on: March 09, 2016, 04:22:52 PM »
Okay, if i can get the big green carbuncle, i can do Hera :V


Too bad i had just sold my Mythlits..... it's for a good cause.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #324 on: March 09, 2016, 04:34:36 PM »
Idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot

First time attempting Nordis AND first time using A.Ra team.
I managed to mess up the killing blow for 3 CONSECUTIVE TURNS.....

AM I F***ING COLORBLIND?

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #325 on: March 09, 2016, 04:55:56 PM »
Idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot idiot

First time attempting Nordis AND first time using A.Ra team.
I managed to mess up the killing blow for 3 CONSECUTIVE TURNS.....

AM I F***ING COLORBLIND?

Maybe it's because using Dark teams left you like that. :P
Or you're sleepy.
Or you're drunk.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #326 on: March 09, 2016, 05:08:46 PM »
Would somebody mind updating the first post to give my Ra the ultramax glow? He's got them fingers now.
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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #327 on: March 09, 2016, 05:59:33 PM »
This is based off KR and might not apply to very many people but

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #328 on: March 09, 2016, 06:25:44 PM »
That active.  Those awakenings.  That art.

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Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVIII: The Meta Is Too Meta
« Reply #329 on: March 09, 2016, 07:25:44 PM »
What have you guys been doing with the autoheal latents you end up with from PreDra Infestation and other means? I've just been cramming them into white Metatron for the day when both she and they get a buff, but once that's done I can't think of any non-joke uses for them. Are there any builds anywhere that legitimately use them for anything?
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