Author Topic: Fire Emblem: Fates - More waifu, more husbando, more sales! (Read 94986 times)

?q · « **Reply #420 on:** August 12, 2016, 10:20:41 PM »

Ch. 20 is reeeeally long if you're like my current run and trying to go for all three chests (and on Lunatic you particularly want the Rescue staff in the center left). If you're on the go you can have the wind help you go directly to Fuga and end it in like 6 turns.

Like, I want to be hipster and say "oh wow this is the best Chapter in the game! I can screw with enemy formations and go super-fast!" but yeah the actual wind patterns don't actually let you do anything like that. I will say that the turns where updrafts cover the entire map are excellent for tapping Dragon Veins, though.

commandercool · « **Reply #421 on:** August 12, 2016, 11:39:23 PM »

There's an Elise Nendoroid coming out I guess. Pass, but just barely. Make a Camilla and I will not only pre-order that but go back and buy Elise.

Hikarin · « **Reply #422 on:** August 13, 2016, 03:10:39 AM »

I... might just have to by that, depending on the price :3 I hope they end up making Nendoroids for all the popular Fates characters. Especially Lobsterman.

Mеа · « **Reply #423 on:** August 13, 2016, 03:42:58 AM »

MMMMMM I almost had it, but the wind didn't want to carry azura over the gap along with my other forces, leaving her stranded, costing me the battle and another save, reset, and retry. At least the chapter isn't, like, boring or frustrating. It's actually fairly interesting since it gives you a variety of approaches and isn't like 'oh jah just uh huddle up here and pray for rng' like the previous one.

Elise gives me better best-little-sister vibes than sakura does, but pairing her with someone seems morally wrong, it hurts my conscience, so I'm sorry I think you're staying single. Camilla, I'm halfway between finding her pretty funny (from kaze 1st link) and generally terrifying with her overattachment to meavatar. No one perfectly sane could possibly find anyone as fanatically endearing as she does.

commandercool · « **Reply #424 on:** August 13, 2016, 04:25:14 AM »

Quote from: Mеа on August 13, 2016, 03:42:58 AM

Elise gives me better best-little-sister vibes than sakura does, but pairing her with someone seems morally wrong, it hurts my conscience, so I'm sorry I think you're staying single.

Agreed. I keep kind of forgetting how your Sakura seemingly is and have paired her up a couple of times, but I couldn't bring myself to let Elise marry anyone. Nope nope nope.

The Greatest Dog · « **Reply #425 on:** August 13, 2016, 04:44:41 AM »

... you're making me feel like a creep for marrying Elise, thanks.

It was so Corrin could protect her, okay?

Mеа · « **Reply #426 on:** August 13, 2016, 05:46:12 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on August 13, 2016, 04:25:14 AM

Agreed. I keep kind of forgetting how your Sakura seemingly is and have paired her up a couple of times, but I couldn't bring myself to let Elise marry anyone. Nope nope nope.

The nohr siblings in general seem so much better. Xander is such an awesome cool big bro, and leo is an adorable little bro. Compared to Ryoma and takumi who, at face value, seem really boring and whiny, respectively. Granted, I have yet to actually social link with them, so who knows I might like them more potentially. Hinoka is the only one I'm really looking forward to social linking later on. What's your take on the siblings?

Chapter progress: yes me, way to go, way to forget to swap leads in defensive formation and leave flora out instead of avatar, way to lose when you were so close, good job, it's not like it took a super long amount of time to get that far, that CLOSE

CF7 · « **Reply #427 on:** August 13, 2016, 09:59:30 AM »

Birthdull on Ha-ha-ha-what-a-joke-hard cleared.

I have a few choice words for it, i guess.

As you might have guessed from the description above, that was NOT fun to play through. Maps are plain Awakening-style bullshit. Wait for the enemies to suicide into you and then clear what's left.
The only map i actually enjoyed playing was Chapter 23 a.k.a. Camilla Fireballs Your Doods for Shit and Giggles Every Turn. That took some actual learning of how the map works, planning on how to deal with reinforcements and the like. The rest? Ugh. Never again.

Then Chapter 26 happened. That plotline death of a certain character pretty much murdered the last remains of my enjoyment of Birthright as a whole. Then as a final insult, Garon decided to be a total prick and killed Kiragi with a 2% crit. And i didn't even feel like resetting, because, seriously, fuck that.
Endgame was beaten in 1 turn, because it's boring, unimaginative and as easy as the maps before it.

Actually, what ticked me the most, enemy units on Hard don't even have skills. Like at all. You look at the enemy stats and see 6 empty circles. Hurray, such fun. Enemy units don't even have skills they logically should have by simply being in the class of certain level. But no. That would be too hard and newbies won't be able to play that astonishingly hard game. I am not sure how this game could be a sort of a gateway for the new FE players, when the game hands you victory on a platter.

Speaking of The Endgame. Slapping Wary Fighter on that lone General blocking your path to the final boss at least would have made it a bit more harder and i dunno, maybe would have made you use your head a little and not just double that general with a Hammer and then make Corrin smack the final boss in the face a couple times until it dies.

I hope Revelations is better, because i think i won't be able to stomach another Birthright. But hey, at least it's supposed to answer some questions, plus you can write your own fanfic, where Takumi marries Camilla and what not. :V

Edit: Okay. Revelations is kind of different.

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iirc.

?q · « **Reply #428 on:** August 13, 2016, 11:57:19 AM »

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... you're making me feel like a creep for marrying Elise, thanks.

The first time I played as MAN☆CORN I went straight for the bad-taste pairing because I wanted to see how awkward it got. It was surprisingly more tasteful than Corrin x Ryoma.

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Quote from: Mеа on August 13, 2016, 05:46:12 AM

The nohr siblings in general seem so much better. Xander is such an awesome cool big bro, and leo is an adorable little bro. Compared to Ryoma and takumi who, at face value, seem really boring and whiny, respectively. Granted, I have yet to actually social link with them, so who knows I might like them more potentially. Hinoka is the only one I'm really looking forward to social linking later on. What's your take on the siblings?

I more or less agree with all of this.

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Chapter progress: yes me, way to go, way to forget to swap leads in defensive formation and leave flora out instead of avatar, way to lose when you were so close, good job, it's not like it took a super long amount of time to get that far, that CLOSE

Oh absolutely. Two runs ago I managed to get to the top row before deciding to be risky with Peri, who got Enfeebled and hit for exactly her HP.

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@CF7: Yeah basically. If you walk back "never again" you should play on Lunatic; pretty much the only difference you'll notice is more of what makes Birthright difficult when the lategame rolls around (i.e. lots of enemies in an open space while you have few to no units with defensive parameters).

Enemy units still won't have Skills. I think you may be overstating how easy it is for newcomers, though.

commandercool · « **Reply #429 on:** August 13, 2016, 01:45:16 PM »

Quote from: Mеа on August 13, 2016, 05:46:12 AM

What's your take on the siblings?

Elise: Fun character, exceedingly well voice-acted and written, incredible unit.

Camilla: Best Fire Emblem waifu ever forever. Very very good unit, fantastic availability. Did marry twice.

Leo: Decent character, especially many of his social links. Horrible unit with pretty solid overall stats held back the trash-tier speed provided by his trash-tier class. Don't know why I keep insisting on not reclassing him. Father to best child in game.

Xander: Acceptable character, never really got over what a dogmatic prick he is when he's not on your team, but he has his moments. Very good, although slightly overrated, character propped up by his ridiculous personal weapon. Has kind of a dumb face.

Sakura: Passable character. Keep forgetting she's Elise's age, many of her character hooks would have been more interesting if she was an adult juggling childish interests and adult responsibilities and not vice versa. Pretty good unit that's never available in situations where you would actually need her, so she gets outclasssed easily.

Hinoka: Boring character on the surface, can't even really remember her social links so I assume they're boring. Very mediocre unit that technically has a really solid personal ability. Cool design.

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Takumi: Conquest personality is extremely irritating, but he just runs a bit bland in other games. Excellent unit with ridiculous personal weapon.

Red Lobster: Cool and meme-worthy design, can't remember a single thing he ever said other than "You die! Now!". Ridiculously good character with garbage game balance and ludicrous personal weapon. Solos Birthright, use is somewhat more limited in Revelation but still excessively high.

Edit: Forgot Azura. Slightly boring character, great design, de facto top tier because she's the only performer in the game, but she's also exceptionally good at being a performer.

Quote from: CF7 on August 13, 2016, 09:59:30 AM

I hope Revelations is better, because i think i won't be able to stomach another Birthright. But hey, at least it's supposed to answer some questions, plus you can write your own fanfic, where Takumi marries Camilla and what not. :V

In my opinion it is much better than Birthright. Still not really quite what I wanted, but much better. Many of the early-game stages are fucking annoying though.

Hikarin · « **Reply #430 on:** August 13, 2016, 01:48:03 PM »

Quote from: CF7 on August 13, 2016, 09:59:30 AM

Endgame was beaten in 1 turn, because it's boring, unimaginative and as easy as the maps before it.

MU/Ryoma master race. Just give Ryoma and the MU all the boots, and then instakill Garon :V Actually, that's what I did on a lot of the endgame maps. Even on Chapter 26, Ryoma sat outside and tanked a bit, and then MU did all the key stuff and cleared the map.

Quote from: Mеа on August 13, 2016, 05:46:12 AM

What's your take on the siblings?

Hosido side:
Lobsterman: As hot-tempered as his lobster-claws imply.

Takumi: Kind of a cookie-cutter character, thinking about it. He's just some random prince, corrupted with pride, who wants to bring power to his own country. That's as simple as you can get. To spice up his character a bit, they gave him an inferiority complex, too. Which is also kind of cliched.

Hinoka: She seems pretty decent as a character. She's (again) rather hot-tempered, but she counteracts that with a somewhat well-hidden family side. In Conquest, she seems to be the one who best deals with Kamui's betrayal, but based on her treatment of MU in Birthright, I'd have to say that she's probably as torn inside as the rest of the Hoshido characters. I guess a good way to sum it up would be that she's a battle-hardened family woman.

Sakura: Who's she?

Neutral (pretty much the only serious chunk of this):
Azura: I'm not really sure how to rate her, but she seems okay enough. She just kind flows with whatever is happening, whether or not it's good/bad. She's a slave, in both countries. In Hoshido, she's a well-cared-for pet, and in Nohr, she's just... neglected completely, except by the other siblings. The only one who treats her as anything else is Kamui. Of course, that's not to say that everybody hates her, but not many people treat her as a human being. It's a good contrast from the MU, who's been sheltered all his life, and is treated as if he's already the king, on both sides (excluding Garon's administration, because that's what you're trying to destroy in all three games).

Corrin: He/she's a sheltered, idealistic little kid who gets what he wants, with some good RNG. Love-wise, he/she's just an eroge protag; he/she can romance any character because he/she essentially just loves back whoever loves her/him. Even if they're a clingy yandere onee-chan.

Nohr (I still haven't cleared Conquest, so I'm just going to dump my first impressions here)
Xander: See Lobsterman, add to that "kind teacher figure".
Leo: I haven't seen enough of him to make any assumptions beyond "bishounen brother with magical powers and a better sense of justice than Xander".
Camilla: Clingy yandere onee-chan with bestchest.
Elise: Best fangirl imouto with terribad skinship animation. Not to mention black underwear. Nohrians seem to really like the color black.

CF7 · « **Reply #431 on:** August 13, 2016, 05:22:36 PM »

Quote from: commandercool on August 13, 2016, 01:45:16 PM

In my opinion it is much better than Birthright. Still not really quite what I wanted, but much better. Many of the early-game stages are fucking annoying though.

I dunno, low manning it is kinda fun for me. Maybe because it's *~-different-~*. Plus it reminds me of Devil Survivor 2

Spoiler:

, where you basically have him and the MC at the beginning of it.
Cleared chapter 8. Corrin and Jakob (sorry, Felicia, but you're useless) are 12 and 13. Azura danced all the way to 18 or so.
Funny thing, Jakob is treated as an advanced class (i.e. 20+) for dance exp calculation, but at the same time gains exp as a normal basic unit of the same level.

?q · « **Reply #432 on:** August 14, 2016, 12:50:32 AM »

Ch. 20 - I got tired of getting units stranded on the left center platform, so I didn't even bother with the lower left. It turns out the Onmyoji in the bottom left don't move until Turn 3, and they have a ways to go to reach the center-right platform where Tomebreaker Velouria can intercept them. I tapped on Turn 3 to get easy access to the right-center platform. After Turn 6 (when all the streams blow up) I had Benny and Peri go for Hayato, at which time the rest of the map was letting the wind blow all my units into the enemy formations. Fuga is really nasty if you don't have a super-unit, so I had Kana Hex him, Laslow poison him, and finished up with Soleil. It took 19 turns, and then I spent another three cleaning out the last few reinforcements.

It may actually be useful to tap Veins at any point it won't actively harm you, since the enemies are carefully positioned to punish you for trying to bait them out and letting the wind send them piecemeal makes the map a lot easier.

The Lv. 3 Staff Store is open and I have no more paralogues, so the fated time has come. Putting everything in a spoiler to make it more appealing to the eye as everyone scrolls past it.

Spoiler:

14000G on seals? That wasn't as painful as I thought it would be. All units are in their final classes now.

commandercool · « **Reply #433 on:** August 14, 2016, 01:16:10 AM »

Quote from: CF7 on August 13, 2016, 05:22:36 PM

I dunno, low manning it is kinda fun for me. Maybe because it's *~-different-~*. Plus it reminds me of Devil Survivor 2
Spoiler:
Alcor's path
, where you basically have him and the MC at the beginning of it.
Cleared chapter 8. Corrin and Jakob (sorry, Felicia, but you're useless) are 12 and 13. Azura danced all the way to 18 or so.
Funny thing, Jakob is treated as an advanced class (i.e. 20+) for dance exp calculation, but at the same time gains exp as a normal basic unit of the same level.

It is certainly novel and that's worth something, but I think the main problem for me is that I just don't like most of them that much. I know I'm probably just going to end up using Corrin and Azura out of those chapters, so any kills grudgingly given to Jakob or Felicia seem like such a waste.

Quote from: ?q on August 14, 2016, 12:50:32 AM

*10 Nohr Princess / 10 Fighter / 5 Hero / 3 Great Knight / 0 Berserker +Spd -Res Corrin "Precious" (married Silas)
20/8 | 41 HP | 32 Str | 7 Mag | 27 Skl | 30 Spd | 19 Lck | 21 Def* | 3 Res* | B Axes | Dragon Fang, Gamble, Sol, Elbow Room, Luna, (Nobility)
While I don't think she'll cap Str, Spd Boon is pretty awesome; she doubles and procs lots of Skills. Going Great Knight for three levels instead of pumping up her Axe rank was hopefully a good move? I want her to get to A Axes so I can drop an Arms Scroll on her and try out Aurgelmir. Also, that Res is absolutely comical, considering that factors in the +2 from Grim Yato. One other thing - the female Berserker armor looks pretty cool but the map sprite has to be seen to be believed (it looks nothing like the actual model).

Ooh, got a picture? I wouldn't know where to look for that.

Actually, is there a place we can see all of the player sprites? That might be interesting.

Quote from: ?q on August 14, 2016, 12:50:32 AM

*20 Nohr Prince / 8 Nohr Noble Kana (via Silas)
20/8 | 33 HP | 19 Str | 16 Mag | 21 Skl | 26 Spd | 18 Lck | 22 Def | 17 Res | C Swords E Tomes C Stones | Dragon Fang, Elbow Room, Gamble, Nobility, Draconic Hex
For as much flack as he gets, he's not particularly bad. Really more than anything I use him for Draconic Hex, though. He's technically free as any class but I never see a point in reclassing Kana.

The main problem with Kana is usually that Dragonstone+ gets tied up in Corrin in my experience. Not that Dragonstone+ is great, it isn't, but Kana tends to really want to be a speed bump between Draconic Heir and Draconic Hex. But then you end up wasting what often ends up being really good speed, so... I don't know, Kana tends to be a mess. My most successful Kanas have usually been flexible Dragonstone+/Levin Sword users, but really at their core they're just Draconic Hex on a stick.

Mеа · « **Reply #434 on:** August 14, 2016, 06:34:40 AM »

Ok finally cleared ch20, my assumption that it wouldn't take long was totally off, I don't even know why I felt that way when canoes took long too. That took a little over 100 natural turns, that's long. But still, and yet, it wasn't difficult I'd say, just very punishing for the tiniest of mistakes.

And with that battle, the first unit pair to achieve A rank was kaze and beruka. I'd have to say that I prefer them as close partners than as a romance pairing. Guess I'll S rank them just cuz anyway though, might as well.

And now ch21. Kaze learned golembane so I was like hey that'll take some of the edge off of this leve-ONE TO FIVE RANGE WHAAAATTTT!?!? This would be an amazing level for grinding exp depending on where reinforcements end up coming from and whether or not I can figure out something that works, but if it's anything like that other escape with elise mission, I'm probably going to be cutting this one pretty close.

commandercool · « **Reply #435 on:** August 14, 2016, 09:12:03 AM »

Just a fair warning on chapter 21, spoiler tagged in case you want to figure it out by yourself.

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Mеа · « **Reply #436 on:** August 14, 2016, 10:06:34 AM »

And I just noticed the no-exp skill too, now that's just being spiteful.
The alternative method did occur to me, but I didn't give it much serious thought because I didn't get too much of a feel for the level yet to seriously consider it. Hearing that you had to take it does give it a lot more weight now though...

But my gosh, I'm having great difficulty seeing the 'shape' behind the map here, the intuitive 'shape' of the strategy to take. Which I suppose makes sense given the nature of the mission story-wise, and it even is a little bit of a relief to know I wasn't alone, but this is going to be hell to do normally. Seeing the little string of dragon veins almost makes me think the alternative way is supposed to be the legit way. Like a joke by the designer for you to figure out the sensible, alternative, strategy for this. And again i suppose this makes sense given that it's conquest and figuring out new tricks to deal with new situations is what's supposed to be fun here, but this is kinda ehhh? The alternative seems too not-obvious enough and completely against my philosophy for clearing chapters in this game (waste nothing) to seem like the way it was intended to be cleared, despite azura's warning, so I'm going to try it normally until all my hair falls out, and then I'll try out the alternative way.

CF7 · « **Reply #437 on:** August 14, 2016, 10:37:44 AM »

Regarding chapter 21. I am not sure how much harder it is on Lunatic, but that's what i did on Hard.

Quote from: CF7 on July 28, 2016, 03:51:40 PM

Also cleared Ch 21. I have no idea what's the supposed method of clearing this map is, but i sorta cheesed it with Keaton/Severa/Kumagera parked in the lower left corner, so the reinforcements suicide against Keaton, then he'd heal back to full, because of his passive. And sent the main force to slowly advance, while Velouria and Siegbert tanked advancing reinforcements from the north. Xander was baiting Stoneborns and then i used Corrin and Elise to one round kill them with Dragonstone+ and a forged Flimbuvetr.

commandercool · « **Reply #438 on:** August 14, 2016, 11:51:31 AM »

I'll be honest, I think it's the worst chapter in the game. It reads like a gear and unit check more than a chapter. Like, if you don't have enough tanks or mobile units, restart your game now. Granted there are a lot of both of those in this game, but it still feels unfair regardless of which route you take.

Mеа · « **Reply #439 on:** August 14, 2016, 02:59:19 PM »

Well I just started it, doing it normally, and this is going to be a real chore. So there are like 4 total 'stair steps' with a couple stonebornes on each, I'm luring them down one at a time while keeping a constant eye out both behind and in front. I'm currently working on the second stoneborn on step 1 and I'm already on turn 14 so this is gonna take a looong while. I'm almost getting some of ch19 vibes here except where instead of holing up in a corner I'm constantly fidgeting around taking 4 steps forward and 3 steps back, and the illusion gimmick is replaced by actual ranged units.

Thankfully keaton is proving very useful behind, which almost makes up for how annoying having to babysit a couple reclass-for-skills units I'm doing this chapter. And one of them is azura, who is currently a kinshi knight to get amaterasu, so no singing laniuses this chapter great great.

e: ok well that turned out to be super easier than I imagined, but also waaaay more boring than I imagined.

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?q · « **Reply #440 on:** August 14, 2016, 08:43:11 PM »

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Ooh, got a picture? I wouldn't know where to look for that.

Actually, is there a place we can see all of the player sprites? That might be interesting.

Doing a quick search for "fire emblem fates models" seemed promising... but taking a picture from the 3DS in this game requires an Internet connection, posting it to the Miiverse community, and then digging up your post there for the image.

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The main problem with Kana is usually that Dragonstone+ gets tied up in Corrin in my experience. Not that Dragonstone+ is great, it isn't, but Kana tends to really want to be a speed bump between Draconic Heir and Draconic Hex. But then you end up wasting what often ends up being really good speed, so... I don't know, Kana tends to be a mess. My most successful Kanas have usually been flexible Dragonstone+/Levin Sword users, but really at their core they're just Draconic Hex on a stick.

I reclass Corrin, so Dragonstone+ becomes Kana's exclusive use (Corrin has better things to do even if it means passing up a 25-Mt Prf). It lets Kana hit really hard and defend pretty hard too, but it's not enough to keep up with the lategame's stat inflation (hence why Kana becomes Kenny by Endgame).

Draconic Hex is really, really awesome though. Dangling your own child just within the reach of bloodthirsty rock-vomiting statue-faces so you can get the drop on them next turn is more satisfying than it should be.

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Ch. 21: Gave Dwyer the Secret Book so he can be a Sorcerer with more Skl than Str. >__________> Sold some things I'm not going to use again and scraped up enough G to purchase Lightning for Nyx. I am now down to my last 250G.

I'll put this in spoiler tags for Mea's sake, although the specifics of this map's strategy will vary a bit based on your team.

Spoiler:

This Chapter is all about numbers.
The Faceless, which are the big problem, have 39 Atk. The Rock Stoneborn have 38. The Massive Rock Stoneborn have 44, and the boss doesn't matter because it also has Vengeance so mark it down as "a lot".

Now consider that Wyvern Lord Benny has 31 Def, plus Defense+2 (the Skill), plus Defense Tonic, plus a mediocre meal, plus Brass Naginata, plus a +3 pair-up with Camilla - all for 40 Def.

Now consider that the Faceless will blindly attack, even if they can't deal any damage, because they have Savage Blow.

Oh, and Benny has a son, too. Paired with Precious - who gives +Str and +Spd but no Def - he doubles to kill Faceless under the protection of Supportive, Guarded Bravery, Defense+2, an Arthur's Axe I have lying around, and Natural Cover to drop damage taken to 3. Since the Faceless die on the counterattack Savage Blow doesn't go off unless Ignatius misses one of his attacks (at 82% or so displayed). He could even have gotten a Defense Tonic had I the money and mind to do so.

Nohr doesn't employ Faceless because they're evil; they do it because they don't give a damn about the zombie apocalypse.

The really impressive part is that you don't even need this team to do that. You can fully load base Xander and he'll go up to 39 Def. (23 + 3 from reclassing + 4 from Siegfried + 2 from Tonic + 2 from Meal + 4 from generic Knight pair-up + 1 from Brass Naginata, and that's right out of the box without any Def levels or Defender or anything. Don't forget Xander also has Chivalry, which is -2 Dmg from undamaged enemies, so theoretically he only needs to proc Def twice before now and he can tank the Massive Rock Stoneborn while they're undamaged.)

It's still not an easy Chapter because there are only three lower Dragon Veins and the Massive Rock Stoneborn still hurt a lot (even 1 damage is enough to kill the otherwise invincible Benny), but having Ignatius able to kill Faceless on enemy phase made the map a lot easier than it could have been. I delayed using the third Dragon Vein until Turn 4 because I couldn't get positioned well enough to make the most of it on Turn 3, plus it allowed me to have Lightning+Nyx snipe the leftmost Stoneborn from across the obstruction. (Nyx gets one-shotted by everything on this map; it's really embarrassing.) I actually think waiting to use the Dragon Vein was helpful because it meant there weren't seven Faceless coming down the map at a time. The boss expressed its indignation at all this cheese and got Luna-critted by Ignatius on the counterattack (NEW FAVORITE BERSERKER who is this Arthur loser) so I could see what was behind the mask (actually pretty decent as far as textures you can almost never see go). Everyone was out in 11 turns, and the Faceless from the bottom never caught up to me.

Velouria hit C Knives. Benny hit D Axes. Nyx is one Heal away from C Staves, and Dwyer is way too far away from C Tomes. Silas-father A Kana ended on a surprisingly dark note if I'm reading the undertones correctly. Looking ahead, Ignatius kind of lost the plot in the Mess Hall, started dumping sauces in, and accidentally produced something that gave everyone +2 Str/Spd/Def. :V

I had previously taken all of Xander's weapons away from him, and he was using... a lance??? in the outro cutscenes (and dang if he's not good at twirling it). The way weapons and cutscenes work in this game seems kind of interesting; in the outro of Ch. 24 Camilla used an axe (Camilla's Axe, even) despite being a Mechanist.

Sonrio · « **Reply #441 on:** August 14, 2016, 10:06:56 PM »

I've been playing this game for months since it's come out and I'm recently playing my (hopefully) last run of the entire game on Conquest Lunatic since I've finished the other paths on Lunatic. However I'm currently stuck on Chapter 14 :/

I'll probably get past it soon, but man do I hate the Opera House map. Especially with the enemy Pegs. Jeez.

?q · « **Reply #442 on:** August 16, 2016, 01:37:15 AM »

Ch. 22: This is the closest thing to a free Chapter that Conquest gives, other than 15. Destroy the enemies, line up for the next levee, and keep swarming forward. Hana is kind of terrifying but pretty much any dirty trick you have can disable her - the real problem is using few enough units to take her out that you can also deal with the four units aside her. Subaki is impressively non-threatening if he can't double anyone, although in my run he went four for four on proccing Aegis. Once you get behind the back levees the battle turns really, really hard against you, so that's your chance to make a mad dash for Yukimura and try to kill him on Player Phase - easier said than done considering his really high Avo. I got Sophie to crit him + hex him at 62% / 42%, and then followed up with Soleil at 92%. Sakura lives to see another day, but she's really tough to kill on this map if you don't have a whole lot of units behind the back levee before she raises them all.

Soleil hit D Knives, which doesn't really mean a lot. Dwyer is close to C Tomes, Velouria is close to D Staves, and Ignatius is close to C Axes. Picked up a frigging Killer Axe from the Lottery Shop, which would be nice if this weren't the only run of Conquest I've done with fewer than three Berserkers; as it stands it means I don't have to buy one from the armory (omg 3300G value). Kana C Soleil is going places. :V

Well, here comes lategame Conquest. I think I'm set up well for it, but...

Mеа · « **Reply #443 on:** August 16, 2016, 04:24:35 AM »

ugh my 3ds died sometime in my sleep, not that I got very far but that's still annoying

e:

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?q · « **Reply #444 on:** August 17, 2016, 11:14:47 AM »

Quote from: commandercool on August 14, 2016, 11:51:31 AM

I'll be honest, I think it's the worst chapter in the game. It reads like a gear and unit check more than a chapter. Like, if you don't have enough tanks or mobile units, restart your game now. Granted there are a lot of both of those in this game, but it still feels unfair regardless of which route you take.

I'd put Ch. 23 over this. If you don't have a unit that can survive an Enemy Phase on top of the wall (in range of four Snipers and three Spear Masters) then you stalemate. Xander Reloaded is about as close as it gets to ideal for this situation, but...

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Also, something that's been bothering me. I don't speak Japanese, so is it just me or are a bunch of the voice actors totally whiffing how these names are supposed to be pronounced?

Corrin: "ho-SHEE-doh" (crit quote)
Yukimura: "HO-SHEE-DOH" (Prologue, first voice clip)

Orochi: "mih-KOH-TOH" (Private Quarters)
Yukimura: "MEE-KOH-TOH" (various voice clips)

Kagero: "kah-GEYR-oh" (CQ 12, fight with Corrin)

Someone: "hin-OH-kuh" (somewhere)

Kaze: "GAYR-un" (Private Quarters)

Corrin saying "Takumi" and "Sakura" sound about how I'd expect, and I assume Yukimura's VA knows what he's doing. "Saizo" is tough to screw up, "Ryoma" likewise, and "Caeldori" doesn't sound right but it's a made-up name anyway.

Hikarin · « **Reply #445 on:** August 17, 2016, 12:52:28 PM »

I was actually surprised at how ~~well~~ not crap they did with the voice acting. It's still not exactly right half the time, but the pronunciation is still better than, say, Xanoblade Chronicles X.

commandercool · « **Reply #446 on:** August 17, 2016, 03:16:33 PM »

Quote from: ?q on August 17, 2016, 11:14:47 AM

I'd put Ch. 23 over this. If you don't have a unit that can survive an Enemy Phase on top of the wall (in range of four Snipers and three Spear Masters) then you stalemate. Xander Reloaded is about as close as it gets to ideal for this situation, but...

Yeah the lack of enemy diversity makes it not TOO rough of a tanking challenge. And it actually is possible to just rush the tower up the stairs with your whole team, at least on lower difficulties. That's how I did it on Hard. Probably couldn't have pulled it off on Lunatic without more Entrap staves than it takes to do the traditional way.

Quote from: Hikari on August 17, 2016, 12:52:28 PM

I was actually surprised at how ~~well~~ not crap they did with the voice acting. It's still not exactly right half the time, but the pronunciation is still better than, say, Xanoblade Chronicles X.

Pronunciation aside I'm really impressed with the voice cast. Can't really recall any duds and there are a lot of exceptional performances. Impressive for such a huge cast.

CF7 · « **Reply #447 on:** August 17, 2016, 04:52:33 PM »

So, my Revelation playthrough is kind of slow because of all the relationship (and some levels) grinding i am doing.
Takumi x Camilla is a thing. And their C-A support was hilarious. Their S support was kinda sweet.
Also somehow i married Subaki and Rinkah. I have no idea how or why, but that's how it is. I am not sure if double negative can produce a positive in this case, but i'll try to make this Caeldori work.
Also from the looks of things the best girl

Spoiler:

will have pink hair and Mozu will be the new queen of Nohr.

commandercool · « **Reply #448 on:** August 17, 2016, 05:01:07 PM »

Quote from: CF7 on August 17, 2016, 04:52:33 PM

So, my Revelation playthrough is kind of slow because of all the relationship (and some levels) grinding i am doing.
Takumi x Camilla is a thing. And their C-A support was hilarious. Their S support was kinda sweet.

What? Best Sister with Worst Brother? Bullshit!

Quote from: CF7 on August 17, 2016, 04:52:33 PM

Also from the looks of things the best girl
Spoiler:
Forrest
will have pink hair and Mozu will be the new queen of Nohr.

Ha ha I did those exact pairings in Revelation.

CF7 · « **Reply #449 on:** August 20, 2016, 12:01:54 PM »

So, Shipping Emblem is slowly taking shape. Just cleared Chapter 14.
Thoughts so far. Chapters are not that hard and i was a little disappointed, that Conquest Chapter 10 Redux did not happen.
At the same time game actually decided to give me a good unit that i don't really have to baby at all. Silas joins at decent level with decent stats and B rank in Lances/Swords. How is that even possible? Everyone else who joined before was level 10 or below.

Pairings so far.
Subaki x Rinkah (Well, it was actually better than i thought)
Kaze x Oboro (It's was okay, but nothing special)
Hinata x Selena (That one was simply awful through out, but their S rank made me cringe)
Takumi x Camilla (First rate troll material)
Keaton x Hana (Kinda good overall, tbh)
Kaden x Charlotte (Oh, look! Charlotte actually can be a decent person)

Will marry them, when i have them available.
Leo x Sakura (Mainly for pink hair Forrest)
Xander x Mozu (Country girl marries a prince. Mozu's True End.)
Laslow x Azura (Dancing and Music, hurray)
Jakob x Nyx (I dunno, Dwyer with black hair would make a good L lookalike, i guess)
Odin x Elise (I have no idea how that will play out, but it should be good, plus even more OP Ophelia)

And from the looks of it Corrin will end up with Silas. I guess i am okay with that.

Everyone else is in "i have no idea what to do with you" category.